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Right Wing Socialist Policies and Solutions

GeoLaureate8
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11/14/2013 10:47:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It is commonly thought that only the left has safety net ideas, however the right wing does have socialist ideas and they're better than the left.

Switzerland is in the process of voting on a measure that guarantees every working citizen a basic monthly income check of $2,800 a month. You might be thinking that is such a radical socialist idea it's worse than the welfare state in the U.S. Not so.

This plan eliminates all the bureaucracy, paperwork, and fraud and eliminates all welfare programs while treating everyone equally. The U.S. has over 120 social programs with food stamps, welfare, public housing and think of the millions and billions wasted on welfare offices, bureaucracy, and paperwork.

http://www.policymic.com...

Just think if we could eliminate all of that and just pay a direct check. It also eliminates wealth distribution because everyone gets the same amount. It does so without de-incentivizing work because you must work to get it unlike our programs that encourage non-work.

This idea is reminiscent of Milton Friedman's idea of a negative income tax.

Another right wing safety net idea is a subsidized HSA (health savings accounts). This idea leaves control in the hands of the individual as opposed to Obamacare or single-payer. Medical expenses can be very costly especially for low income earners so subsidized HSAs makes sense.
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1Percenter
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11/14/2013 12:19:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
How can you consider a guaranteed income a "Right wing" solution? This isn't a means of providing a safety if it is given to everyone -- it is a means of wealth new redistribution. I didn't read anything about work requirements, so free loading would be encouraged.

Any Right-wing safety net should be means-tested. Indiscriminate handouts are anything but that.
TheHitchslap
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11/14/2013 2:53:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/14/2013 10:47:05 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It is commonly thought that only the left has safety net ideas, however the right wing does have socialist ideas and they're better than the left.

Switzerland is in the process of voting on a measure that guarantees every working citizen a basic monthly income check of $2,800 a month. You might be thinking that is such a radical socialist idea it's worse than the welfare state in the U.S. Not so.

Uhh .. no.
This is a left-wing idea .. you realize Switzerland is riddled with social-democrats right?

This plan eliminates all the bureaucracy, paperwork, and fraud and eliminates all welfare programs while treating everyone equally. The U.S. has over 120 social programs with food stamps, welfare, public housing and think of the millions and billions wasted on welfare offices, bureaucracy, and paperwork.

It is a supplement, not a replacement.

http://www.policymic.com...

Just think if we could eliminate all of that and just pay a direct check. It also eliminates wealth distribution because everyone gets the same amount. It does so without de-incentivizing work because you must work to get it unlike our programs that encourage non-work.

This idea is reminiscent of Milton Friedman's idea of a negative income tax.

True

Another right wing safety net idea is a subsidized HSA (health savings accounts). This idea leaves control in the hands of the individual as opposed to Obamacare or single-payer. Medical expenses can be very costly especially for low income earners so subsidized HSAs makes sense.

Yeah but there is no guarantee that the money you use in the HSA will cover your costs, and your left blind. Obamacare on the other-hand does not do that; it'll cover you regardless.
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henryajevans
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11/14/2013 4:49:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
There was right wing socialism in Britain under Macmillan and Heath. Look up One Nation Conservatism and you'll find a good example of it.
drhead
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11/14/2013 11:20:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/14/2013 12:19:20 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
How can you consider a guaranteed income a "Right wing" solution? This isn't a means of providing a safety if it is given to everyone -- it is a means of wealth new redistribution. I didn't read anything about work requirements, so free loading would be encouraged.

At 11/14/2013 10:47:05 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Switzerland is in the process of voting on a measure that guarantees every working citizen a basic monthly income check of $2,800 a month. You might be thinking that is such a radical socialist idea it's worse than the welfare state in the U.S. Not so.

It seems evident that not reading things is a habit for you.
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11/15/2013 12:27:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/14/2013 11:20:23 PM, drhead wrote:
At 11/14/2013 12:19:20 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
How can you consider a guaranteed income a "Right wing" solution? This isn't a means of providing a safety if it is given to everyone -- it is a means of wealth new redistribution. I didn't read anything about work requirements, so free loading would be encouraged.

At 11/14/2013 10:47:05 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Switzerland is in the process of voting on a measure that guarantees every working citizen a basic monthly income check of $2,800 a month. You might be thinking that is such a radical socialist idea it's worse than the welfare state in the U.S. Not so.

It seems evident that not reading things is a habit for you.

That's the exact statement I was responding too, smart one.

I am questioning the work requirement because I had read a similar article from hotair that said Swiss could collect the benefits without having to work.

hotair.com/archives/2013/10/06/swiss-look-to-go-all-in-on-socialism-assure-income-to-everyone-even-without-working/