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Which Atrocity Was Worse?

Wallstreetatheist
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12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

No weasel answers. Choose one.
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12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

US Imperialism
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12/9/2013 11:13:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Considering the profound rarity of communistic governments, I will suggest that the Greater German Reich was worse. We should remember that the People's Republic of China is not communist, but fascist; it is a corporate state. (If we want to run government like a business, we want to run government like China.) The Soviet Empire was also not communist, but a state capitalist system. (In the model of the USSR, workers had no rights, and nor did the community of the people.) Only the Company Boss (read: Party Boss) had any real say-so on any matter of importance.

Removing only these two attempts at "Communism" the largest real collections of communists are those who grow their own food out in Montana and live on Communes. They really don't bother anyone who does not notice how they do not shave out their armpits. I suppose that we could also count as "Communist" such city-states as Vietnam. They are also, and always have been, harmless if left unmolested.
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12/9/2013 11:49:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM, HPWKA wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

US Imperialism

I'm not asking for the "worst." I'm asking for the "worse."
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12/9/2013 11:52:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM, HPWKA wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

US Imperialism

Bullshitt, the US has done some awful things but none of that compares to the Holocaust, the Great Purge, or the Great Leap Forward. Hell, the atrocities of the US pale in comparison to pretty much every other colonial empire.
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12/9/2013 11:56:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Guns don't kill people, rappers do. Communism is just an idea, a suggested state of being. Capitalism is survival of the fittest, man idealised as animal. Hitler was a murderer.

Kindly shut the f*ck up.
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12/9/2013 12:03:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
How about you try being rational rather than just a petty, angry child, for once in your life?
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12/9/2013 3:35:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.


1. Man who gets rid of an economic depression by creating a boom in the industry by preparing for war, while simultaneously murdering around 11 million people. Responsible for WWII. Government ultimately failed.

2. Started by a radical Marxist who took the ideas to the ultimate extreme. Resulted in the losses of 20-40 million people along with at least one international war, one civil war, and conflict. Most attempts at the government have ultimately failed with only two exceptions that I can think of (China doesn't count).

No weasel answers. Choose one.

I'll go with Communism on this one.
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12/9/2013 3:52:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Statistically, "Communism" should be the obvious choice.

But titles don't matter. Methods do. The method in question, for both choices, is centralized power.
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12/9/2013 5:43:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM, HPWKA wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:26:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.
You're such a retard.

US Imperialism

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12/9/2013 5:47:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

No weasel answers. Choose one.

The effects of communism. Hitler was worse in regards to carrying out the travesties, but communism is worse in regards to the quantity of people effected as well as the long term effects. Both are effects of socialism, as national-syndicalism and communism are both forms of socialism.
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12/9/2013 5:52:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/9/2013 11:58:03 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
You're pro guns rights, right WSA? How many people have guns killed?

How the fvck does that have to do with anything?
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12/9/2013 7:30:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM, HPWKA wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

US Imperialism

Are you serious??? How... How is that even a logical answer?
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12/9/2013 7:30:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/9/2013 11:49:58 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 12/8/2013 11:43:02 PM, HPWKA wrote:
At 12/8/2013 9:19:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Which in your opinion was the worse atrocity of the 20th century of the following two choices.

1. The reign of Adolph Hitler.

2. The effects of communism worldwide.

US Imperialism

I'm not asking for the "worst." I'm asking for the "worse."

And you as well
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12/9/2013 10:32:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'll say the Third Riech because it started an entire world war over telephone poles and jews. And an entire civilization didn't notice.
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12/9/2013 11:15:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I was somewhat "trolling" with the US imperialism answer, as on the surface, Germany was clearly worse.

Although, one could make the argument that the long-term effects of US imperialism and Communism significantly outlive whatever Hitler did in WW2. That would take quite a bit of work to prove though.
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AnDoctuir
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12/10/2013 2:44:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well, I'm sure we're all in agreement here that the Atrocity of Guns has killed more people than any other Atrocity.

/endthread
DanT
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12/10/2013 2:53:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/10/2013 2:44:35 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
Well, I'm sure we're all in agreement here that the Atrocity of Guns has killed more people than any other Atrocity.

/endthread

Yeah, because without guns the people using the firearms would have no alternative means of killing each other. There was no war prior to fire arms, we just sat around singing "kumbayah."
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12/10/2013 2:58:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/10/2013 2:45:02 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
DanT, you're also f*cking retarded.

But compared to you I'm a fricken genius. Intelligence is relatively measured.
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12/10/2013 2:59:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/10/2013 2:53:52 AM, DanT wrote:
At 12/10/2013 2:44:35 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
Well, I'm sure we're all in agreement here that the Atrocity of Guns has killed more people than any other Atrocity.

/endthread

Yeah, because without guns the people using the firearms would have no alternative means of killing each other. There was no war prior to fire arms, we just sat around singing "kumbayah."

Yeah, okay. You're right. Swords win the "Atrocity of Millennium" award.

#ideasthatkillpeopleYOLO

Well, actually, I'm going to give it to survival of the fittest here, I think. Swords a close second.
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12/10/2013 3:00:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/10/2013 2:58:08 AM, DanT wrote:
At 12/10/2013 2:45:02 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
DanT, you're also f*cking retarded.

But compared to you I'm a fricken genius. Intelligence is relatively measured.

Actually you scored over 10 points fewer than me as regards IQ testing and I think your claim of "superior intelligence" is just straight up farcical from having conversed with you anyway.
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12/10/2013 3:31:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/10/2013 3:00:57 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 12/10/2013 2:58:08 AM, DanT wrote:
At 12/10/2013 2:45:02 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
DanT, you're also f*cking retarded.

But compared to you I'm a fricken genius. Intelligence is relatively measured.

Actually you scored over 10 points fewer than me as regards IQ testing and I think your claim of "superior intelligence" is just straight up farcical from having conversed with you anyway.

Are you claiming to have an IQ of over 138?

IQ tests are not accurate measures of intelligence; at best they can tell you that someone has an intelligence level of at least X. Someone can score 100 on an IQ test and have an actual IQ of 160, while someone else can score a 120 and have an actual IQ of 130.

Furthermore, intelligence is simply the capacity for knowledge. Someone could have a genius IQ and be more ignorant than someone with a dull IQ. In fact, most people with high intelligence levels never meet their full potential due to ignorance (as does most of the population).
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12/10/2013 3:35:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nice control you've expressed over IQ there, DanT. And hilarious how a person can score high, but not be of lower intelligence, by the way.
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12/10/2013 3:43:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hey, consider that a defiance against those IQ tests that insist you fill in all the boxes =3