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12/22/2013 8:17:19 PM
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Who do you think the big shots will be? Who do you think will get the nomination for both sides? What do you think the outcome will be?
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12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM
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It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.
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12/22/2013 10:01:18 PM
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Libertarians are moving up in politics.
Maybe one of them might get the nomination, but I'm not sure.
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12/23/2013 1:06:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 10:01:18 PM, MoonGod wrote:
Libertarians are moving up in politics.
Maybe one of them might get the nomination, but I'm not sure.

Your profile pic is like the scream, if the scream were an environmentalist.
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12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM
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Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.
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12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.
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12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand. With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.
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12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.
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12/23/2013 1:22:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

I'll give you that one.
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12/23/2013 1:23:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:22:24 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

I'll give you that one.

Oh, the only reason that daddy isn't the butt of every joke among the establishment is because son is there for the laughs.

The Pauls have their fan base, but it's a small fan base... very small indeed.
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12/23/2013 1:24:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

But really, the republican I want is Condoleezza Rice. She won't run, but I want her.
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12/23/2013 1:25:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:24:01 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

But really, the republican I want is Condoleezza Rice.

WHY? What could possibly be the reason that you want Rice?

She won't run, but I want her.

I miss W.
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12/23/2013 1:27:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:25:27 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:24:01 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

But really, the republican I want is Condoleezza Rice.

WHY? What could possibly be the reason that you want Rice?

Highly intelligent, rational, conservative enough to appeal to the base, moderate enough to sway undecideds, female, minority. Frankly, she's the only person I see as being able to beat Hillary.
She won't run, but I want her.

I miss W.
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12/23/2013 1:30:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:27:39 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:25:27 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:24:01 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:20:38 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:18:33 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:16:07 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:09:22 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Well, I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton will get the democratic nomination. The republican one could go to Chris Christie, Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, though I suspect even the GOP will realize that Cruz is a bad choice.

I think that the GOP is more likely to have a Sarah Palin run for president with Glenn Beck as her veep than nominate Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

I think you're underestimating Rand.

I think that outside of a small faction of libertarians, he is the butt of every joke among the establishment.

With his libertarian tendencies, he appeals pretty strongly to young people and he's conservative enough for the GOP. The only thing I see as keeping him from the nomination is his plagiarism.

Meh... Rand is just like his father, but for the fact that son's IQ is at least one standard deviation lower than daddy.

But really, the republican I want is Condoleezza Rice.

WHY? What could possibly be the reason that you want Rice?

Highly intelligent, rational, conservative enough to appeal to the base,

The "base" will vote for a ditzy, stupid, incompetent white woman before they'll vote for a black woman. It's a shittyfuckedup truth, but it's the way things are... no matter what people will say.

moderate enough to sway undecideds, female, minority. Frankly, she's the only person I see as being able to beat Hillary.

I don't think Hillary is as much of a sure-fire bet as you might think. She's surely the DNC lead, but it's not as if it will be an easy win.

She won't run, but I want her.

No, she won't run...


I miss W.
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12/23/2013 1:33:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

Meh. Call me an optimist.

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

I don't see the shutdown effecting the GOP's presidential aspirations as much as those in Congress.

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.

On what grounds do you make such an assumption lol.
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12/23/2013 1:36:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:06:57 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/22/2013 10:01:18 PM, MoonGod wrote:
Libertarians are moving up in politics.
Maybe one of them might get the nomination, but I'm not sure.

Your profile pic is like the scream, if the scream were an environmentalist.

hahahaha
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12/23/2013 1:49:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:36:36 AM, MoonGod wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:06:57 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/22/2013 10:01:18 PM, MoonGod wrote:
Libertarians are moving up in politics.
Maybe one of them might get the nomination, but I'm not sure.

Your profile pic is like the scream, if the scream were an environmentalist.

hahahaha

I amend my earlier statement... if the scream were an environmentalist on ecstasy.
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12/23/2013 1:56:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:33:04 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

Meh. Call me an optimist.

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

I don't see the shutdown effecting the GOP's presidential aspirations as much as those in Congress.

Ted Cruz?

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.

On what grounds do you make such an assumption lol.

Future nominees, I guess.
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12/23/2013 1:59:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/23/2013 1:56:59 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:33:04 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

Meh. Call me an optimist.

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

I don't see the shutdown effecting the GOP's presidential aspirations as much as those in Congress.

Ted Cruz?

Yeah he ain't getting in. Not ever.

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.

On what grounds do you make such an assumption lol.

Future nominees, I guess.

It's the Presidential election. Did you even pay attention last time?
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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12/23/2013 2:01:57 AM
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At 12/23/2013 1:59:57 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:56:59 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:33:04 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

Meh. Call me an optimist.

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

I don't see the shutdown effecting the GOP's presidential aspirations as much as those in Congress.

Ted Cruz?

Yeah he ain't getting in. Not ever.

Exactly. The shutdown marked this.

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.

On what grounds do you make such an assumption lol.

Future nominees, I guess.

It's the Presidential election. Did you even pay attention last time?

No.
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12/23/2013 2:32:56 AM
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At 12/23/2013 2:01:57 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:59:57 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:56:59 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 12/23/2013 1:33:04 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:26:05 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
It would be like 2 severely autistic kids going at it(Dems and Rebs).

Meh. Call me an optimist.

No one is forgetting the shutdown nor will they forget Obamacare.

I don't see the shutdown effecting the GOP's presidential aspirations as much as those in Congress.

Ted Cruz?

Yeah he ain't getting in. Not ever.

Exactly. The shutdown marked this.

It is up in the air, assuming the nominees don't try stupid sh!t.

On what grounds do you make such an assumption lol.

Future nominees, I guess.

It's the Presidential election. Did you even pay attention last time?

No.

Oh.
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: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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12/23/2013 6:55:06 PM
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Chris Christie vs. Hillary Clinton

Chris Christie will win the GOP nomination when all the conservative candidates split the conservative votes like the last few GOP primaries. Rand Paul nor Ted Cruz can win the nomination if they both are in in it because they share the same voter bloc of the GOP. But if Scott Walker runs he will split the moderate vote with Christie. Then who knows who will win the GOP primary.

I don't even see a clear rival for Clinton at all.
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12/23/2013 7:10:42 PM
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Hillary Clinton's top four campaign aides have bailed on her and refuse to engage in a 2016 campaign.

Chris Christie is considered a Liberal by most of the Republican base and is openly against the Tea Party. At least Romney tried not to alienate the Tea Party, Christie doesn't care and will lose the primaries.

Who has the most solid and energized support in the GOP? Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

We will see Cruz and Paul intellectually hammer their opponents into submission on the debate floor.
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12/24/2013 6:06:32 PM
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At 12/23/2013 7:10:42 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Hillary Clinton's top four campaign aides have bailed on her and refuse to engage in a 2016 campaign.

Chris Christie is considered a Liberal by most of the Republican base and is openly against the Tea Party. At least Romney tried not to alienate the Tea Party, Christie doesn't care and will lose the primaries.

Who has the most solid and energized support in the GOP? Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

We will see Cruz and Paul intellectually hammer their opponents into submission on the debate floor.

Rand Paul is more appealing than Ted Cruz. There are mixed feelings about Ted Cruz throughout the party. Some seem to love him(Tea Party) and others hate him(I.E Peter King, Chris Christie). I think Rand Paul showed that he can handle adversity and is willing to ring in new voters.

If Chris Christie, wins the nomination(I hope not), I promise he won't even win New Jersey. Just like how Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney did not carry either of their home states. Why chose someone who can't even win their home state?
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12/24/2013 7:28:29 PM
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Ron Paul 2012
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12/24/2013 7:55:40 PM
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I read somewhere that Biden was going to run.
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12/24/2013 7:58:02 PM
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Nvm, he was declared a potential candidate.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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12/24/2013 8:46:02 PM
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It's probably going to be Hilary Clinton from the Democrats.

From the Republicans, I'd like to think it would be someone sensible like Christie, but since the Tea Party is insanely far to the right and will likely destroy the Republican party, it'll probably be some nutball, like all the competitors in 2012 (Santorum, Perry, etc).

Problem is, Clinton isn't capable of unifying the parties again. The polarisation will only continue.
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12/25/2013 2:39:57 AM
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I want a libertarian to win. I am tired of this big government sh1t.
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12/25/2013 9:48:52 PM
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Hilary Clinton (Democrat) vs Chris Christie (Conservative)

Hilary is going to win and be the first female President... I predict.