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1/14/2010 8:52:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

I don't exclaim the entire Pledge of Allegiance anymore.

Simply, I only state the parts that I "somewhat" support.
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1/14/2010 8:53:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:52:47 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

I don't exclaim the entire Pledge of Allegiance anymore.

Simply, I only state the parts that I "somewhat" support.

I don't say it period.
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1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?
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1/14/2010 8:56:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

The pledge is not true
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1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL
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1/14/2010 9:02:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL

My bad,
Word

the original works,

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
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1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.
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Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
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1/14/2010 9:15:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:02:37 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL

My bad,
Word

the original works,

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

Most inaccurate thing ever. America is far from having liberty and justice for all.
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1/14/2010 9:15:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:14:44 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.

http://www.strongisrael.org...

You mean this? Seems up your alley.

No, not the nazi salute. Totally different. Like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org...
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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1/14/2010 9:16:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:15:31 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Most inaccurate thing ever. America is far from having liberty and justice for all.

Quoted for truth.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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1/14/2010 9:17:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:15:54 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:14:44 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.

http://www.strongisrael.org...

You mean this? Seems up your alley.

No, not the nazi salute. Totally different. Like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

I can really see the difference. xD
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1/14/2010 9:17:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:15:31 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:02:37 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL

My bad,
Word

the original works,

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

Most inaccurate thing ever. America is far from having liberty and justice for all.

But why not Pledge something you agree with?
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1/14/2010 9:17:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:15:31 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:02:37 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL

My bad,
Word

the original works,

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

Most inaccurate thing ever. America is far from having liberty and justice for all.

Of course. Only a socialist would think liberty and justice derived from schoolchildren saluting a flag of the government. Which is why a socialist thought up the pledge :)
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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1/14/2010 9:17:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.

I prefer the One Finger Salute, myself.
"Wanting Red Rhino Pill to have gender"
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1/14/2010 9:18:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:14:44 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.

http://www.strongisrael.org...

You mean this? Seems up your alley.

EXACTLY WhAT I WAS THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1/14/2010 9:20:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:14:44 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:09:09 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
I do it the original way: One Arm Salute.

http://www.strongisrael.org...

You mean this? Seems up your alley.

Yup, pretty much. Wrong flag, though. I live in Amerikkka: http://rexcurry.net...
: If you weren't new here, you'd know not to feed me such attention. This is like an orgasm in my brain right now. *hehe, my name is in a title, hehe* (http://www.debate.org...)

Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
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1/14/2010 9:20:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:17:35 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:15:31 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:02:37 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:58:30 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:55:33 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 8:49:46 PM, True2GaGa wrote:
Thoughts?

What, (The "Pledge of Allegiance is not tr)
What wee you trying to type?

wee? LOL

My bad,
Word

the original works,

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

Most inaccurate thing ever. America is far from having liberty and justice for all.

Of course. Only a socialist would think liberty and justice derived from schoolchildren saluting a flag of the government. Which is why a socialist thought up the pledge :)

Har har, very funny. xD
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1/14/2010 9:22:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
You gotta admit you walked right into that, criticizing a piece of propaganda specifically designed to preach your own twisted ideals by someone who shares them :)
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1/14/2010 9:26:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:22:31 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
You gotta admit you walked right into that, criticizing a piece of propaganda specifically designed to preach your own twisted ideals by someone who shares them :)

"The original pledge of allegiance used a straight-arm salute because Francis Bellamy was a self-proclaimed national socialist who promoted "military socialism" (a Bellamy term)."[1]

I don't think InsertNameHere is a military socialist.

We shouldn't conflate all socialists. It wold be like conflating all libertarians.

[1] http://rexcurry.net...
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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1/14/2010 9:27:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:26:15 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:22:31 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
You gotta admit you walked right into that, criticizing a piece of propaganda specifically designed to preach your own twisted ideals by someone who shares them :)

"The original pledge of allegiance used a straight-arm salute because Francis Bellamy was a self-proclaimed national socialist who promoted "military socialism" (a Bellamy term)."[1]

I don't think InsertNameHere is a military socialist.

We shouldn't conflate all socialists. It wold be like conflating all libertarians.

[1] http://rexcurry.net...

Umm...yea, I'm not a National Socialist. Just no.
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1/14/2010 9:29:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Well, I learned something new today: Francis Bellamy, creator of the Pledge of Allegiance, was essentially a Nazi.

Cool!
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1/14/2010 9:31:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
First, are there references to the term "military socialism" being linked to Bellamy somewhere other than Rexcurry.net? Only qualifier I've heard repeatedly ascribed to him is "Christian." Insert is Muslim, but there isn't a whole lot of difference (Jesus is not a whole lot of content :) ).

Umm...yea, I'm not a National Socialist. Just no.
You're against the nation-state? What do you propose to use for socializing?
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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1/14/2010 9:31:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:29:23 PM, Volkov wrote:
Well, I learned something new today: Francis Bellamy, creator of the Pledge of Allegiance, was essentially a Nazi.

Cool!

Yep, i totally forgot but have been reminded.

Thanks
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1/14/2010 9:33:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
to R_R
http://lmgtfy.com...
: If you weren't new here, you'd know not to feed me such attention. This is like an orgasm in my brain right now. *hehe, my name is in a title, hehe* (http://www.debate.org...)

Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
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1/14/2010 9:34:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:33:08 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
to R_R
http://lmgtfy.com...

That's not the term I asked about.

I already googled the term I asked about and got nothing except from some blog that looked like it copied all its content from Rex.
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1/14/2010 9:35:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:31:36 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
First, are there references to the term "military socialism" being linked to Bellamy somewhere other than Rexcurry.net? Only qualifier I've heard repeatedly ascribed to him is "Christian." Insert is Muslim, but there isn't a whole lot of difference (Jesus is not a whole lot of content :) ).

Umm...yea, I'm not a National Socialist. Just no.
You're against the nation-state? What do you propose to use for socializing?

I'm an advocate of Internationalism.
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1/15/2010 6:35:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:36:02 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I always thought that the Nazi salute was something that Hitler derived from Mussolini; I remember having seen some kind of documentary on that. I suppose that I, too, have learned something. Maybe.

That is what I thought as well. Mussolini had something similar with the Roman Salute, and given that the salute itself predates Hitler, Bellamy and Mussolini, the inspiration was probably drawn from that.

Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org...