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Koopin
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1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?
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1/21/2014 11:32:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM, Koopin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?

No?
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1/21/2014 11:32:39 PM
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At 1/21/2014 11:32:09 PM, MrVan wrote:
At 1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM, Koopin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?

No?

What?
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1/21/2014 11:34:31 PM
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At 1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM, Koopin wrote:
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Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?

I don't understand why he doesnt. At the very least it will excite the young crowd, lol
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1/21/2014 11:36:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/21/2014 11:34:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM, Koopin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?

I don't understand why he doesnt. At the very least it will excite the young crowd, lol

America is close, but not completely ready. I give it 10 years before a president can outright come out with support.
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1/21/2014 11:47:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/21/2014 11:32:39 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 1/21/2014 11:32:09 PM, MrVan wrote:
At 1/21/2014 11:30:07 PM, Koopin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Am I the only one thinking that the only reason Obama hasn't outright come out with support for legalization is because it would be political suicide?

No?

What?

I was answering your question, and I fully agree with your opinion. It's hard to ascertain how the President actually feels about marijuana; though I personally think he probably doesn't mind it, considering he used to smoke it. He's also been supportive of it's legalization in Colorado and Washington.
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1/22/2014 12:31:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Here's a Penn Jillette rant from last year regarding Obama and marijuana. What kind of democracy do we live in that the last 3 presidents have all admitted to committing a crime represented by 1/6th of the prison population, but nobody thinks its a big deal?

Either marijuana is a terrible crime which president after president laughingly admits to committing or 300,000 Americans are unjustly imprisoned. The latter is the obvious truth.

We should not simply stand by and wonder at the political game. We must insist that a popular freedom with little demonstrated civic consequence be restored as a requisite demonstration of our freedom. American rights are not some subset of government grants. Rather, our rights encompass any activity that does not substantially infringe on the rights of others. We must not be satisfied that government may eventually allow us to ingest a plant that grows wild absent civil intervention. The government must be made to demonstrate the unacceptable harm of marijuana and when they fail that burden, forced to step off our collective dick.
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1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of ot just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)
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1/22/2014 10:52:12 AM
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At 1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of ot just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)

Because obviously that wouldn't lead to a complete boycott of the legal market. You can't kill the black market by introducing the product legally at 'sky high' prices - the infrastructure would just remain in place, and in fact, would just become an even easier illegal business.
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1/22/2014 10:55:29 AM
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At 1/22/2014 10:52:12 AM, Wocambs wrote:
At 1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of ot just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)

Because obviously that wouldn't lead to a complete boycott of the legal market. You can't kill the black market by introducing the product legally at 'sky high' prices - the infrastructure would just remain in place, and in fact, would just become an even easier illegal business.

It would become no different then the days of bootlegging. That sure worked out well didn't it?
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1/22/2014 11:06:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/22/2014 10:55:29 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
At 1/22/2014 10:52:12 AM, Wocambs wrote:
At 1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of ot just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)

Because obviously that wouldn't lead to a complete boycott of the legal market. You can't kill the black market by introducing the product legally at 'sky high' prices - the infrastructure would just remain in place, and in fact, would just become an even easier illegal business.

It would become no different then the days of bootlegging. That sure worked out well didn't it?

Alcohol is fairly inexpensive as it is. It costs less than "5 to get blackout drunk (well, for most people...). Bootlegged alcohol is harder to smuggle and quite dangerous, and people clearly value the flavour and branding of alcohol greatly... and anyway, where's the moral grounding for this? Cannabis users are less of a burden to society than alcohol drinkers, for sure.
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1/22/2014 12:06:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/22/2014 10:55:29 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
At 1/22/2014 10:52:12 AM, Wocambs wrote:
At 1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of ot just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)

Because obviously that wouldn't lead to a complete boycott of the legal market. You can't kill the black market by introducing the product legally at 'sky high' prices - the infrastructure would just remain in place, and in fact, would just become an even easier illegal business.

It would become no different then the days of bootlegging. That sure worked out well didn't it?

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1/22/2014 3:13:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/22/2014 6:45:07 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
I say f*** it. If the little pot smokers really want it that bad just go ahead and legalize it and then tax the living dog s*** out of it just like alcohol and tobacco. And all those hilarious guys who still think legalization means they can grow and sell whatever they want in thier grandmas basement will be forced to get a pricy distribution/license or else pay some hefty fines. Just like with making your own alcohol. I think this would be a great way to boost the economy some what and it would finally get those pot smoking hippies to shut the hell up. Plus I can't wait to see thier faces when it is legalized and the price for it skyrockets ;)

Here in Denver, that is exactly how it is working. We can grow up to six plants per household after which we need a license.

The economy is suddenly booming. The combination of Bronco's playoff games and the National Western Stock Show amplified by legal weed has put a help wanted sign in every shop in Denver.

Prices have doubled, but that's good for everybody involved I think: slows consumption, rewards the entrepreneurs and rewards the taxpayers.