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3/27/2014 4:43:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Pierre Joseph Proudhon brought the word "anarchism" into modern usage in his treatise "What is Property." Anarchism as a word came into popular usage around the time of the French Revolution and has been used to mean a deterioration of civil order into chaos. Anarchism is characterized by the foundational premise that political authority in any form is evil and unnecessary. The state, an instrument of political authority, entails coercive authority which anarchists believe comes necessarily at the expense of liberty and equality. Unfettered personal autonomy, then, is the end to which anarchists aspire. Anarchists reject the idea that the state is necessary to ensure social order, because they believe that human nature is such that individuals will self regulate harmoniously.

Anarchist ideas have existed, more or less, since ancient China or Greece, but anarchist principles first were grounded by William Goodwin even though Goodwin never understood himself as an anarchist. In "Enquiry Concerning Political Justice," functioned as a critique of authoritarianism and argued for the perfectibility of human society through education and socialization. Anarchism's face, however, was predictably multifaceted and had influences in Marx, Bakunin, Proudhon and Emiliano Zapata. Anarchist movements have never successfully translated their ideals into any kind of a social order perhaps because of its inherent restriction of both its ends and means. Despite its noted failure, anarchism remains popular and relevant, especially among youths.

The sole defining theme of anarchism is rebellion against the state and government in any form. Anarchists champion a stateless social order in which only individuals manage their affairs by voluntary agreement, in the total absence of compulsion or coercion. This belief is grounded in the idea that humans have autonomy, that people are basically good and that only when one is in total control of one's own destiny by virtue of independence from external forces, is one ever truly free. It has been argued that anarchism exists in the space between liberalism and socialism in that both share basically similar understandings of human nature as well as anti-statist ends. Anarchists seek to vacate state authority, believe in natural human order, oppose clerical power and champion totally unrestricted economic freedom.

Anarchists believe that all authority necessarily comes at the expense of liberty and equality, and that only when there exists no higher authority to check individual behavior can true freedom exist. (This decidedly rejects understandings of human nature which posit that in the absence of state authority, life is nasty, brutish and short.) Anarchists believe that to be subject to authority is corrosive to the innate good of both those who would hold positions of authority and those subject to that authority because authority implies a necessarily diminished and diminishing state of human affairs where the rulers are ruthless and the ruled live in states of fear.

Anarchists reject social contract theory, by arguing that the state of nature is consistent with human nature which remains pure until subject to unjust rule. Goodwin contends that because humans are basically rational creatures, they are inclined to live in accordance to universal moral laws, to organize their lives harmoniously with others. Implicitly, authority is not the cause of order, but the source of disorder wherever it is exercised. Rousseau might add that while man is born free, yet ever in chains, precisely because he is in chains, man seeks to rebel. But, anarchists do not deny that humans are yet still able to to be depraved to the extent that power is exercised. Anarchists generally (other than Goodwin) are decidedly anti-clerical because they regard religion as a source of authority itself and therefore at the expense of liberty. What Dostoevsky lamented, (If not God, then all is permitted), anarchists celebrate.

Even though it is uncommon for anarchists to see the state's overthrow as an end in itself, they are nevertheless champions of totally unrestricted economic activity though anarchists quibble over the proper place of property rights in anarchism. Bakunin argued that political power and wealth are inseparable, he connected property rights with exploitative capitalism and therefore opposed property rights but individualist anarchists believe that private property is necessary in a state of perfect economic freedom as an exercise of individual liberty. The extension of individualist anarchism is anarcho-capitalism, whereas the extension of collectivist anarchism is anarcho-communism. Between modern liberalism and anarchism is libertarianism, which is basically the belief that the individual should enjoy the broadest possible social and economic freedom absent of external and internal exercises of arbitrary power.

Anarchism's central limits exist in its incapacity to be translated into social order, but it nevertheless exists as a popular and relevant impulse particularly in response to perceived state overreach. Anarchists continue to stress the destructive nature of power, the corrupting nature of authority to both those who rule and are subject to rule, and anarchist ideals have influenced both the new right and the new left insofar as social libertarianism and social liberation have come to popularity. Both trace their ideological roots to anarchism.

Further Reading

Emma Goldman; Anarchism: What It Really Stands For
Henry David Thoreau; Essay on Civil Disobedience
Mikhail Bakunin; Scientific Anarchism

...and anything Noumena writes about politics.

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3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.
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3/27/2014 7:30:27 PM
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At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do...

For a second I thought you made a profound statement about how most human action is anarchic (family meetings, sports events, trade, etc), but then I kept reading.
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3/27/2014 7:32:08 PM
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At 3/27/2014 7:30:27 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do...

For a second I thought you made a profound statement about how most human action is anarchic (family meetings, sports events, trade, etc), but then I kept reading.

Anything you'd like to add to the summary? I'm sure it's hardly sufficient.
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3/27/2014 7:32:15 PM
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Thank you for the information, YYW. I've actually been reading a little bit on Christian anarchism, lately, (Yes, it exists.) so I found this very interesting.
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3/27/2014 7:37:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/27/2014 7:32:15 PM, OtakuJordan wrote:
Thank you for the information, YYW. I've actually been reading a little bit on Christian anarchism, lately, (Yes, it exists.) so I found this very interesting.

Cheers.

Check this out:

http://www.anarchyisorder.org...
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3/28/2014 4:15:16 PM
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At 3/28/2014 2:58:09 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Anarchy has always interested me but I think the normal patterns of human behavior will always lead to a lack of anarchy.

Probably. I think that human nature, whatever that is, is probably such that there will always be those who value and those who oppose authority meaning that anarchy/more or less anarchistic impulses are here to stay but will never be translated into any kind of a social/political order.
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4/4/2014 2:04:14 AM
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At 3/28/2014 4:15:16 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/28/2014 2:58:09 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Anarchy has always interested me but I think the normal patterns of human behavior will always lead to a lack of anarchy.

Probably. I think that human nature, whatever that is, is probably such that there will always be those who value and those who oppose authority meaning that anarchy/more or less anarchistic impulses are here to stay but will never be translated into any kind of a social/political order.

Saul Newman read pretty much that (minus the cynicism regarding political goals) into Foucault in a book he wrote on poststructuralist-informed anarchism. Oh except without the reference to human nature. God forbid lol. But as more of a (and I'm loosely recalling this) dynamic within power itself.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 2:11:08 AM
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At 3/27/2014 7:30:27 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do...

For a second I thought you made a profound statement about how most human action is anarchic (family meetings, sports events, trade, etc), but then I kept reading.

Oh my god shut up ancap
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM
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At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 3:53:14 AM
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At 3/28/2014 2:46:08 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I wrote this a little while ago, seemed relevant.

http://www.4shared.com...

Is the title at all influenced by 'The Idea of Communism' seminars and accompanying books?
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 7:53:26 AM
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Anarchism is characterized by the foundational premise that political authority in any form is evil and unnecessary. YYW

Depending how one defines "political authority" determines whether Anarchism is fictional or not.

Any group of people who live in a community including a family unit have an "Authority". Is Anarchy specific enough to only consider traditional Political Authority or does it include other authorities such as religious authority, paternal authority, group derived authorities, etc?

Seems to me the entire premise of Anarchism needs to better define which type of authority is evil in a consistent way
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4/4/2014 8:09:12 AM
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We are pack animals, like it or not. If it's not properly organized it will result in gangs and tribes, Somalia is a prime example of modern day anarchism. Usually the ones most willing to inflict violence win out through fear, and it's a perfect breeding ground for dictatorship if it doesn't boil down to chaos. Survival of the fittest in a very crude way.
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4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 8:09:12 AM, vinter wrote:
We are pack animals, like it or not. If it's not properly organized it will result in gangs and tribes, Somalia is a prime example of modern day anarchism. Usually the ones most willing to inflict violence win out through fear, and it's a perfect breeding ground for dictatorship if it doesn't boil down to chaos. Survival of the fittest in a very crude way.

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?
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4/4/2014 9:05:53 AM
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At 4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM, slo1 wrote:

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?

No, it's the result of anarchism, after government structure broke down. My point is, anarchism cannot exist , not if human nature in it's present condition is taken into the equation.
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4/4/2014 9:32:00 AM
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At 4/4/2014 9:05:53 AM, vinter wrote:
At 4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM, slo1 wrote:

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?

No, it's the result of anarchism, after government structure broke down. My point is, anarchism cannot exist , not if human nature in it's present condition is taken into the equation.

We are on the same page. Although, I would not technically call the Somalian govt, break down into a collection of smaller tribes/gangs as Anarchism.

It sounds like we would both agree one can take a country, and keep breaking down the size of the central authority's span of control into smaller and smaller blocks but is still is an authority. This in effect makes the concept of Anarchism fictional.
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4/4/2014 10:17:21 AM
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At 4/4/2014 7:53:26 AM, slo1 wrote:
Anarchism is characterized by the foundational premise that political authority in any form is evil and unnecessary. YYW

Depending how one defines "political authority" determines whether Anarchism is fictional or not.

Any group of people who live in a community including a family unit have an "Authority".

Semantic ambiguity.

Is Anarchy specific enough to only consider traditional Political Authority or does it include other authorities such as religious authority, paternal authority, group derived authorities, etc?

Depends on the anarchist. Traditionally, however, most anarchists tend to take into account both political and extra-political nexus' of power.

Seems to me the entire premise of Anarchism needs to better define which type of authority is evil in a consistent way

Who do you think needs to define this? How do you know it hasn't already been defined? Yer summing up a complex and multi-faceted political philosophy by a single statement made by someone who self-admittedly has little understanding of the concept to begin with.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 10:24:45 AM
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At 4/4/2014 9:32:00 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/4/2014 9:05:53 AM, vinter wrote:
At 4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM, slo1 wrote:

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?

No, it's the result of anarchism, after government structure broke down. My point is, anarchism cannot exist , not if human nature in it's present condition is taken into the equation.

We are on the same page. Although, I would not technically call the Somalian govt, break down into a collection of smaller tribes/gangs as Anarchism.

It sounds like we would both agree one can take a country, and keep breaking down the size of the central authority's span of control into smaller and smaller blocks but is still is an authority. This in effect makes the concept of Anarchism fictional.

Wow you really don't know what anarchism is lol
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 10:26:39 AM
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At 4/4/2014 10:17:21 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 7:53:26 AM, slo1 wrote:
Anarchism is characterized by the foundational premise that political authority in any form is evil and unnecessary. YYW

Depending how one defines "political authority" determines whether Anarchism is fictional or not.

Any group of people who live in a community including a family unit have an "Authority".

Semantic ambiguity.

Is Anarchy specific enough to only consider traditional Political Authority or does it include other authorities such as religious authority, paternal authority, group derived authorities, etc?

Depends on the anarchist. Traditionally, however, most anarchists tend to take into account both political and extra-political nexus' of power.

Seems to me the entire premise of Anarchism needs to better define which type of authority is evil in a consistent way

Who do you think needs to define this? How do you know it hasn't already been defined? Yer summing up a complex and multi-faceted political philosophy by a single statement made by someone who self-admittedly has little understanding of the concept to begin with.

Holy cat fight batman!

Let's just get one thing straight. I never self admitted little understanding of the concept, but merely pointed out the ambiguity used in defining Anarchism. I in fact go as far to mention that if one takes away arbitrary definitions of authority then Anarchism is a fictional premise.

I would be fine providing the definition of authority, but somehow I don't think you would be happy.

There you go and take your two scratches with smile brother.
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4/4/2014 10:31:48 AM
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At 4/4/2014 10:24:45 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 9:32:00 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/4/2014 9:05:53 AM, vinter wrote:
At 4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM, slo1 wrote:

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?

No, it's the result of anarchism, after government structure broke down. My point is, anarchism cannot exist , not if human nature in it's present condition is taken into the equation.

We are on the same page. Although, I would not technically call the Somalian govt, break down into a collection of smaller tribes/gangs as Anarchism.

It sounds like we would both agree one can take a country, and keep breaking down the size of the central authority's span of control into smaller and smaller blocks but is still is an authority. This in effect makes the concept of Anarchism fictional.

Wow you really don't know what anarchism is lol

Please enlighten me or are you just giving your an selfie atta boy?
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4/4/2014 11:24:58 AM
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Let me just be clear here. There are a million and one different types of Anarchism. All of them require submitting to an authority. It is just a matter of where the authority is derived from on whether each school accepts the authority as permissible or not.

As a result Anarchy limits authority not eliminates. It should not even exist as a category in itself and each school should instead be a subset of another political ideology.

An authority-less Anarchy is fictional and need not be considered.
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4/4/2014 2:46:33 PM
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At 4/4/2014 10:26:39 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/4/2014 10:17:21 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 7:53:26 AM, slo1 wrote:
Anarchism is characterized by the foundational premise that political authority in any form is evil and unnecessary. YYW

Depending how one defines "political authority" determines whether Anarchism is fictional or not.

Any group of people who live in a community including a family unit have an "Authority".

Semantic ambiguity.

Is Anarchy specific enough to only consider traditional Political Authority or does it include other authorities such as religious authority, paternal authority, group derived authorities, etc?

Depends on the anarchist. Traditionally, however, most anarchists tend to take into account both political and extra-political nexus' of power.

Seems to me the entire premise of Anarchism needs to better define which type of authority is evil in a consistent way

Who do you think needs to define this? How do you know it hasn't already been defined? Yer summing up a complex and multi-faceted political philosophy by a single statement made by someone who self-admittedly has little understanding of the concept to begin with.

Holy cat fight batman!

Let's just get one thing straight. I never self admitted little understanding of the concept, but merely pointed out the ambiguity used in defining Anarchism.

I was referrIng to YYW's definition which you've based yer response on.

I in fact go as far to mention that if one takes away arbitrary definitions of authority then Anarchism is a fictional premise.

I would be fine providing the definition of authority, but somehow I don't think you would be happy.

There you go and take your two scratches with smile brother.

Lol yer still basing what you see as anarchism's understanding of authority/power/etc. from a summary analysis by someone who admitted to not knowing muc about anarchist theory.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 2:47:31 PM
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At 4/4/2014 10:31:48 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/4/2014 10:24:45 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 9:32:00 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/4/2014 9:05:53 AM, vinter wrote:
At 4/4/2014 8:59:54 AM, slo1 wrote:

What you are describing is that the definition of Anarchism includes the relative size of the authority. The gangs and tribes still have authorities enforcing the gangs or tribes rules. It is just that there are many different ones confined within the greater generally accepted boundaries of Somalia as a whole? Is that truly Anarchism?

No, it's the result of anarchism, after government structure broke down. My point is, anarchism cannot exist , not if human nature in it's present condition is taken into the equation.

We are on the same page. Although, I would not technically call the Somalian govt, break down into a collection of smaller tribes/gangs as Anarchism.

It sounds like we would both agree one can take a country, and keep breaking down the size of the central authority's span of control into smaller and smaller blocks but is still is an authority. This in effect makes the concept of Anarchism fictional.

Wow you really don't know what anarchism is lol

Please enlighten me

Sure thing. What aspect in particular?

or are you just giving your an selfie atta boy?

I don't know if this is English.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 5:27:10 PM
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At 4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.

I think the planes are shifting, yeah, but they always do. The closest thing to anarchism we see in the US now, really, are really radical libertarians.
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4/5/2014 10:53:30 AM
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At 4/4/2014 5:27:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.

I think the planes are shifting, yeah, but they always do. The closest thing to anarchism we see in the US now, really, are really radical libertarians.

Oh my god no lol. I'd guess Greens honestly but no definitely not libertarians.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/5/2014 11:23:45 AM
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At 4/5/2014 10:53:30 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 5:27:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.

I think the planes are shifting, yeah, but they always do. The closest thing to anarchism we see in the US now, really, are really radical libertarians.

Oh my god no lol. I'd guess Greens honestly but no definitely not libertarians.

Agorists in New Hampshire.
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4/5/2014 12:14:21 PM
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At 4/5/2014 11:23:45 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/5/2014 10:53:30 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 5:27:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.

I think the planes are shifting, yeah, but they always do. The closest thing to anarchism we see in the US now, really, are really radical libertarians.

Oh my god no lol. I'd guess Greens honestly but no definitely not libertarians.

Agorists in New Hampshire.

Noooooooooope
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/5/2014 6:51:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 12:14:21 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/5/2014 11:23:45 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 4/5/2014 10:53:30 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 5:27:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:19:10 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/27/2014 4:53:35 PM, YYW wrote:
This may have come across, but anarchism isn't something I really know as much about as I do... liberalism, conservatism, feminism, fascism, postmodernism, etc. I'm sure there's stuff I've missed here, and I'm sure Noumena could speak to this better than I could.

Honestly, anarchism IMO seems to be in a weird place atm, theoretically speaking. Poststructuralism really seems to have shifted the planes dramatically for anarchist thought, analogous perhaps to the fall of the Berlin Wall for communism.

I think the planes are shifting, yeah, but they always do. The closest thing to anarchism we see in the US now, really, are really radical libertarians.

Oh my god no lol. I'd guess Greens honestly but no definitely not libertarians.

Agorists in New Hampshire.

Noooooooooope

Good thing anarchism doesn't operate on your imagination, cupcake :)
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