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4/4/2014 12:19:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
This thread is an index to the political ideology threads I wrote a while back, so that there is a point of reference for them.

Liberalism:

http://www.debate.org...

Conservatism:

http://www.debate.org...

Anarchism:

http://www.debate.org...

Fascism:

http://www.debate.org...

--

I wrote these threads to lay a conceptual foundation to the intellectual history behind words like "liberal" or "conservative" such that when they're used, we can have a point of reference. I don't even begin to pretend like these are perfectly sufficient explanations of the four political ideologies I briefly sketched, but I think that, or would hope at least, that they're minimally adequate.
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4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

But communism, yeah... maybe.
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4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 2:49:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

I'd stop at post-Marxist stuff, because that's the limit, but I see what you're saying.


But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.

It could be, but I'd be more broad and less deep with communism whereas I'd be more inclined to be both broad and deep with Marxism -just because of the nature of the topics.
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Noumena
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4/4/2014 2:54:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 2:49:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

I'd stop at post-Marxist stuff, because that's the limit, but I see what you're saying.

So basically Marx to Althusser?


But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.

It could be, but I'd be more broad and less deep with communism whereas I'd be more inclined to be both broad and deep with Marxism -just because of the nature of the topics.

I think more deep/more broad seems like a fair compromise.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 3:08:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 2:54:23 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:49:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

I'd stop at post-Marxist stuff, because that's the limit, but I see what you're saying.

So basically Marx to Althusser?

Yup.



But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.

It could be, but I'd be more broad and less deep with communism whereas I'd be more inclined to be both broad and deep with Marxism -just because of the nature of the topics.

I think more deep/more broad seems like a fair compromise.

Idk. I'd like to, but I'd have to do some more reading to be able to do that on Marxism. Communism, I can just isolate a survey of the major stuff.
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4/4/2014 3:24:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 3:08:15 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:54:23 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:49:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

I'd stop at post-Marxist stuff, because that's the limit, but I see what you're saying.

So basically Marx to Althusser?

Yup.



But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.

It could be, but I'd be more broad and less deep with communism whereas I'd be more inclined to be both broad and deep with Marxism -just because of the nature of the topics.

I think more deep/more broad seems like a fair compromise.

Idk. I'd like to, but I'd have to do some more reading to be able to do that on Marxism. Communism, I can just isolate a survey of the major stuff.

Are you thinking along the lines of more concretely political Communist activists/leaders or solely theoretical stuff?
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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4/4/2014 5:28:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 3:24:59 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 3:08:15 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:54:23 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:49:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:46:20 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:38:48 AM, YYW wrote:
At 4/4/2014 2:26:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
DO MARXISM/cOMMUNISM

Marxism is incredibly complicated, and really, I'd feel like I'd cheated it if I didn't go all the way through the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory, which, really, I don't know enough about to do well.

If I ever have time (I work seven days this week) and a computer I'd absolutely adore going through all that sh'tz. And no need to stop at critical theory. All the fun of contemporary postMarxism is just waiting to be had.

I'd stop at post-Marxist stuff, because that's the limit, but I see what you're saying.

So basically Marx to Althusser?

Yup.



But communism, yeah... maybe.

I feel like that would just be Marxism but even broader.

It could be, but I'd be more broad and less deep with communism whereas I'd be more inclined to be both broad and deep with Marxism -just because of the nature of the topics.

I think more deep/more broad seems like a fair compromise.

Idk. I'd like to, but I'd have to do some more reading to be able to do that on Marxism. Communism, I can just isolate a survey of the major stuff.

Are you thinking along the lines of more concretely political Communist activists/leaders or solely theoretical stuff?

I guess both would be necessary, but I would be pretty shallow on each of necessity.
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4/4/2014 5:37:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 12:19:46 AM, YYW wrote:
This thread is an index to the political ideology threads I wrote a while back, so that there is a point of reference for them.

Liberalism:

http://www.debate.org...

Conservatism:

http://www.debate.org...

Anarchism:

http://www.debate.org...

Fascism:

http://www.debate.org...

--

I wrote these threads to lay a conceptual foundation to the intellectual history behind words like "liberal" or "conservative" such that when they're used, we can have a point of reference. I don't even begin to pretend like these are perfectly sufficient explanations of the four political ideologies I briefly sketched, but I think that, or would hope at least, that they're minimally adequate.

Do the Up-Wing!
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4/10/2014 9:41:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 5:37:40 PM, bubbatheclown wrote:
At 4/4/2014 12:19:46 AM, YYW wrote:
This thread is an index to the political ideology threads I wrote a while back, so that there is a point of reference for them.

Liberalism:

http://www.debate.org...

Conservatism:

http://www.debate.org...

Anarchism:

http://www.debate.org...

Fascism:

http://www.debate.org...

--

I wrote these threads to lay a conceptual foundation to the intellectual history behind words like "liberal" or "conservative" such that when they're used, we can have a point of reference. I don't even begin to pretend like these are perfectly sufficient explanations of the four political ideologies I briefly sketched, but I think that, or would hope at least, that they're minimally adequate.

Do the Up-Wing!

The Up-wing was stupid, along with the arcane regime system.
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Jifpop09
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4/10/2014 9:43:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/4/2014 12:19:46 AM, YYW wrote:
This thread is an index to the political ideology threads I wrote a while back, so that there is a point of reference for them.

Liberalism:

http://www.debate.org...

Conservatism:

http://www.debate.org...

Anarchism:

http://www.debate.org...

Fascism:

http://www.debate.org...

--

I wrote these threads to lay a conceptual foundation to the intellectual history behind words like "liberal" or "conservative" such that when they're used, we can have a point of reference. I don't even begin to pretend like these are perfectly sufficient explanations of the four political ideologies I briefly sketched, but I think that, or would hope at least, that they're minimally adequate.

You should do a couple of more specific ideology's

- Libertarian

- Progressive

- Classical Liberal
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