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7/9/2014 1:00:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
This is a great Ted Talk. He creates an index of "Good" countries, based on what they contribute to the rest of the world (I'm guessing it is per capita, not absolute). To see what the rankings are, go to goodcountry.org.

http://www.ted.com...

He gives a moral disclaimer right away - this is a scientific survey, based on categories like contributions in technology, culture, environment, etc. There are no moral analyses and it is strictly based on the external influences of each country - there is no data concerning health, happiness, or prosperity of the country's own citizens. "Good" means how the country contributes to OTHER countries: it's reputation. He makes the economic argument that a country's reputation dictates how much their products and services are worth, so these rankings are like quality indicators, and should be therefore one of our most important national goals.

If you brought a product, would you rather it said that it was made in Ireland, Finland, or Switzerland? Or would you like it to say "made in China, Rwanda, or Iraq?" The former are ranked 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and the latter are ranked 107th, 108th, and 123rd.

He insists that we define "goodness," in relation to countries, not in terms of "good versus bad," but in terms of "good versus selfish."
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7/9/2014 1:11:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The problem with such indexes is that they attempt to quantify abstract concepts in arbitrary ways. There are simply too many things to take into account and complex interactions to be measured, etc. Moreover, he measures a country's "Goodness" relative to its GDP per capita, which doesn't actually tell you which country contributes the most. It's much better to see the actual numbers, and make one's own estimation.
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7/9/2014 1:14:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
For instance, how on earth do you judge what's more important: culture or technology. What if one is 10 times more significant than another? It's silly to think this is anything but guess work.
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7/9/2014 1:24:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
He says its per capita... But its total BS... America has produced so much more for the world than any other country... WW1, WW2, being the military for most of Europe and our allies in Asia... We fund the UN... Our huge economy benefits everyone as we trade with them, and they trade with us... I mean, I really dont see Ireland, per Capita, doing much at all... Germany, UK, or the US should top that list.
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7/9/2014 1:28:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also, how do you quantify things like inventions, discoveries, advancements etc. There's no reason to think sheer number is indicative of anything.