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Romney 2016?

1Historygenius
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8/20/2014 2:17:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I heard a few bits about a possible Romney bid in 2016, but I disregarded the as just some diehards of the Romney 2012 movement. Today though, as I was watching Varney & Company and observing the markets, they did a story that Romney (or at least from people close to Romney) is actually considering a run in 2016. I went online and did find more stories that this movement is indeed surprisingly gaining traction.

If he did run would his candidacy be viable? Yes actually. I recent poll showed him having 20%, Christie with 12%, and Paul with 11%. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com...) It would not be the first time a presidential nominee lost and ran again. Nixon lost in 1960 and won in 1968. At the same time though, Nixon's 1968 opponent Hubert Humphrey ran in 1972 but lost the nomination. Republican Thomas Dewey did win the 1948 nomination after losing as the nominee against FDR in 1944, but he made no gains and lost again to Truman in 1948. If we go back further, Grover Cleveland lost the presidency to Harrison, then came back to beat Harrison. Jackson lost in a corrupt bargain to J.Q. Adams, then beat Adams in a round 2. Finally, in 1796 Thomas Jefferson lost to John Adams and then Adams lost to Jefferson in 1800. This has happened before and Romney does have a chance yet again to capture the presidency.
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AlternativeDavid
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8/21/2014 2:33:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Romney isn't a viable candidate. He made a lot of dumb remarks during his last campaign "binders full of women", "47%". He's also a known flip flopper on issues. In 2006 he bragged about the Massachusetts healthcare system (it's more or less Obamacare) saying it should be a model for the nation. In 2012 he said that every state is different and his plan wouldn't work in other states, like the ones that voted for him.

I think that his opponents would use all of his mistakes in the 2012 campaign, plus his mistakes in 2016 against him.
1Historygenius
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8/21/2014 8:14:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/21/2014 2:33:47 AM, AlternativeDavid wrote:
Romney isn't a viable candidate. He made a lot of dumb remarks during his last campaign "binders full of women", "47%". He's also a known flip flopper on issues. In 2006 he bragged about the Massachusetts healthcare system (it's more or less Obamacare) saying it should be a model for the nation. In 2012 he said that every state is different and his plan wouldn't work in other states, like the ones that voted for him.

I think that his opponents would use all of his mistakes in the 2012 campaign, plus his mistakes in 2016 against him.

There's a problem here. He hasn't made any mistakes for 2016 and technically a recent poll showed Romney winning against Obama in a rematch. Although 2016 would be no rematch, that does indeed show that he is viable.

Finally, you forget Nixon who was in many ways like Romney.
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AlternativeDavid
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8/21/2014 8:57:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago

There's a problem here. He hasn't made any mistakes for 2016 and technically a recent poll showed Romney winning against Obama in a rematch. Although 2016 would be no rematch, that does indeed show that he is viable.

Finally, you forget Nixon who was in many ways like Romney.

Right now even a box turtle could beat Obama in 2016. Obama isn't running though. If he's only getting about 1/5th of the republican party, then I'm not too sure he can win the primary.

Finally, comparing him to Nixon won't do anything but hurt him.
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8/21/2014 9:38:12 AM
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At 8/21/2014 8:57:32 AM, AlternativeDavid wrote:

There's a problem here. He hasn't made any mistakes for 2016 and technically a recent poll showed Romney winning against Obama in a rematch. Although 2016 would be no rematch, that does indeed show that he is viable.

Finally, you forget Nixon who was in many ways like Romney.

Right now even a box turtle could beat Obama in 2016. Obama isn't running though. If he's only getting about 1/5th of the republican party, then I'm not too sure he can win the primary.

Finally, comparing him to Nixon won't do anything but hurt him.

I'm talking about Nixon getting elected in 1968 after losing in 1960, thus it is possible. Also, he may be getting 20% now, but everyone else is under him. Not everyone on the list of Republican hopefuls are going to run anyway or may not make it to the primary in time.
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AlternativeDavid
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8/21/2014 9:44:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm talking about Nixon getting elected in 1968 after losing in 1960, thus it is possible. Also, he may be getting 20% now, but everyone else is under him. Not everyone on the list of Republican hopefuls are going to run anyway or may not make it to the primary in time.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Real Clear Politics doesn't even list Romney as a candidate. Can you link the poll you referenced?
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8/21/2014 11:12:57 AM
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At 8/21/2014 9:44:46 AM, AlternativeDavid wrote:
I'm talking about Nixon getting elected in 1968 after losing in 1960, thus it is possible. Also, he may be getting 20% now, but everyone else is under him. Not everyone on the list of Republican hopefuls are going to run anyway or may not make it to the primary in time.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Real Clear Politics doesn't even list Romney as a candidate. Can you link the poll you referenced?

Sure. Also as for the RCP average, they will only include the candidates that routinely show up now. There are plenty others that aren't often polled. http://www.sltrib.com...
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Greyparrot
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8/21/2014 6:09:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
McCain...Romney....

I guess its going to be more of the same, a predictable backlash against weak "conservative in name only" candidates, more internal Republican strife as Democrats win yet again with a weak candidate by default.

Who even cares if the Dems eventually get held accountable for the laws and executive orders they pass? There isn't any alternative anyway.