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Has Liberalism Been Subverted?

Daktoria
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9/24/2014 11:20:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Once upon a time, liberalism used to be a movement about creative thinking, problem solving, vision, imagination, free will, and rational thought.

It was against anti-intellectualism that was stuck in its ways. It was against abuse, negligence, blaming the victim, ruggedly individualist deregulation, conforming to norms, practical normalcy, simple-mindedness, closed-mindedness, anti-elitism, folk community, and common sense.

Then, something changed.

One day, liberalism encountered a different kind of conservative. It encountered heritage, narrative, story, custom, culture, and tradition. It encountered a conservatism that believed in reliable rules of engagement, discourse ethics, due diligence, duty of care, due process, and procedural justice.

In sum, it encountered a conservatism that believed in grace before law.

Liberalism was shocked. It didn't know what to do...

...and then it became everything it originally hated.

It insisted on learning from experience.

It insisted on evidence.

It insisted on moral emotivism, relativism, coherentism, egalitarianism, libertinism, and hedonism.

It insisted on inductive reasoning.

In a nutshell, it became that first form of conservatism in all ways except for semantics.

Anti-elitism? Meet egalitarianism.

Anti-intellectualism? Meet moral emotivism.

Folk community common sense? Meet moral relativism and coherentism.

Libertine hedonism? Meet ruggedly individualist deregulation...

...and from then on, liberalism was subverted.
Daktoria
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9/24/2014 11:30:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I guess the thing that baffles me the most about liberalism are the matters of inductive reasoning, evidence, and even anti-dualist fatalism.

Those were excuses taken a long time ago not only to justify racism and sexism, but pragmatic nationalism as well. The point was to deny who people were on the inside that counts, but rather to simply judge them for what they are on the outside. It was to deny people's individual agency to behave as they will, but rather to believe that people's personalities could be generalized from their physical existences...

...yet here liberalism is, accepting those ideas. The point is to oppose personal responsibility while abusing people, and expect those who are abused to conform to those who abuse them and deny personal responsibility...

...which is just like the conservative notion of power politics and opposing civil rights.

Modern liberalism has been subverted indeed. Maybe they should just call it "neoconservatism".

Oh wait a sec...
Daktoria
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9/24/2014 11:34:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Isn't neoconservatism that movement that advocates Zionist foreign policy even though Jews vote 60-70% Democrat...

...and don't Jews behave like liberals anyway since they're about believing they're chosen by God to bring light to the world such that they don't care about people's universal individuality?

http://www.theguardian.com...

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