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Wallstreetatheist
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9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?
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9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.
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9/27/2014 6:34:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Some of my favorite quotes from the GOP to establish each claim.

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
"I believe there is a direct connection between being gay and being a pedophile." - E.W. Jackson
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down." - Todd Akin
"And I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen." - Richard Mourdock
"Women don't care about contraception." - Nikki Haley
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9/27/2014 9:30:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Those are policies, not values. But even still, it's clear that the GOP's valuing the "sanctity of life" and the "sanctity of marriage" is at odds with individual liberty.
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9/27/2014 9:38:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
So much of what we see is people from one side or the other complaining about the other.

Sure - there are certain individuals "way out there" on either side, and for most of us it gets pretty ludicrous to take them at face value.

I think most Republicans are realizing that the gay marriage issue is largely over. National Republican strategists are feeling it too - the tide has turned here, fast and massively.

I agree that some of our drug laws are a waste....
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"We need a smaller, less-intrusive government."

--Fully agree with this. Whether we think of ourselves as Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative (or other), the past, current, (and from what I can see, future) actions of our federal gov't are the greatest threat to us Americans. My opinion.

I mean this only on the basis of the economy and the federal debt. Debts this size are never repaid - they are dealt with some other way. Traditionally, it's only by an outright default on the debt, and the resulting extreme deflation, or by hyper-inflating the debt out of existence by debasing the currency.

Never seen anything from the gov't to indicate they will willingly accept deflation. I do not *know* what is going to happen, other than it's going to be darn ugly for most of us.
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9/27/2014 9:47:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?
Before I go off on a history tangent, are you claiming these to be the republican virtues?
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9/28/2014 2:29:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Small government...but only for Coca Cola, Wal-Mart, and ExxonMobil. Because corporations are people more than people are, and deserve more freedom.
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9/28/2014 8:48:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

I guess that is what you get when you try to reconcile reactionary christian values with fiscal conservatism, an ideological mess.
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9/29/2014 3:21:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:24:27 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
Number 4 is poshtalk.

Republicans have increased the government for as long as I have lived.

But dat rhetoric though.
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9/29/2014 10:59:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.

Haven't heard about democrats saying that only evolution should be taught in school, I'm pretty sure your a bit off there.
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9/29/2014 11:07:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.

Are you suggesting that creation myths from 3000 year old books are worthy of being taught in a scientific classroom?
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.
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9/29/2014 11:08:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

No. Thats the values of the GoP, not Republicanism.

Republicans have three values.

1. Liberty
2. Freedom
3. Equality

and

4. Justice

GoP are crypto-statists ew.
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9/29/2014 3:05:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 10:59:42 AM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.

Haven't heard about democrats saying that only evolution should be taught in school, I'm pretty sure your a bit off there.

Go talk to literally any Democrat out there and ask them whether people should be allowed to teach Creationism in Public Schools. Every one of them will say no, often justifying their stance by saying that there is "no proof" of Creationism.
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9/29/2014 3:06:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 11:08:03 AM, 18Karl wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?


No. Thats the values of the GoP, not Republicanism.

Republicans have three values.

1. Liberty
2. Freedom
3. Equality

and

4. Justice

GoP are crypto-statists ew.

The GOP is just another name for the Republican Party.
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9/29/2014 3:06:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 11:07:54 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.

Are you suggesting that creation myths from 3000 year old books are worthy of being taught in a scientific classroom?

Yes

3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.
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9/29/2014 3:13:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 3:06:53 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/29/2014 11:07:54 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.

Are you suggesting that creation myths from 3000 year old books are worthy of being taught in a scientific classroom?

Yes

Well, they are not science. All there is to go on is a book written 3000 years ago by people who did not know much about the world. A religious creation story deserves to be taught in a religious institution or religious school. Scientific evidence does not point to them being correct so there is no reason as to why they should be taught in a public school.

3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.
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9/29/2014 3:23:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.

Most of us support civil unions, actually.

2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.

Individual liberty does not mean you can kill people you find inconvenient.

3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

This is a Democrat value too, m8.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?
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9/29/2014 10:23:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 3:06:31 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/29/2014 11:08:03 AM, 18Karl wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?


No. Thats the values of the GoP, not Republicanism.

Republicans have three values.

1. Liberty
2. Freedom
3. Equality

and

4. Justice

GoP are crypto-statists ew.

The GOP is just another name for the Republican Party.

My I say that all Americans are de facto Republican? The only difference is that they are liberals/conservatives.
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9/29/2014 10:32:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 3:05:46 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/29/2014 10:59:42 AM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.

Haven't heard about democrats saying that only evolution should be taught in school, I'm pretty sure your a bit off there.

Go talk to literally any Democrat out there and ask them whether people should be allowed to teach Creationism in Public Schools. Every one of them will say no, often justifying their stance by saying that there is "no proof" of Creationism.

The bigger problem is that is it a religion based theory and more religious than scientific, so it shouldn't be in public schools. However, anyone can choose to go to a private school and learn whatever they want.
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9/29/2014 10:36:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 3:23:06 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.

Most of us support civil unions, actually.

civil union=/=marriage

2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.

Individual liberty does not mean you can kill people you find inconvenient.

Bodily autonomy doesn't make a difference then? That seems to be a pretty basic and well established individual right.

3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

This is a Democrat value too, m8.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?
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9/30/2014 1:07:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

Well, you're simply an egoistic "libertarian" who doesn't care to have the government function repressively in regard to these issues because he doesn't care enough about his fellow man and woman to fancy the government either repressing or (here's the rub) helping him/her. In your profoundly egoistic, asocial, and uncaring worldview, profoundly ignorant as it is of the interdependence of life, everyone should simply be left forlornly to his/her own devices regardless of the potential unhappy consequences for the individual or society. I give you no kudos for this, none whatsoever. The "libertarian's" preference to not repress others does not at all come from a place of social and ethical enlightenment, it's part and parcel of his/her sense of being an atomized individual, unconcern for others, and ideological rationalization of selfishness. I personally prefer the kind of a conservative who at least gives enough of a damn to want to tell others what values they should practice.
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9/30/2014 8:53:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 10:36:07 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 9/29/2014 3:23:06 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.

Most of us support civil unions, actually.

civil union=/=marriage

What is the issue with that? It is equal if you make everything one.

2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.

Individual liberty does not mean you can kill people you find inconvenient.

Bodily autonomy doesn't make a difference then? That seems to be a pretty basic and well established individual right.

A fetus is not part of your body, sorry.

3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

This is a Democrat value too, m8.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?
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9/30/2014 9:11:49 AM
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This same form of criticism can be applied to any ideology or party if you don't attempt to understand the motivations behind the rhetoric. While I certainly agree that the Republican Party is being intellectually inconsistent here this kind of low level criticism really rubs me the wrong way because I can understand why someone would believe as they do. Fundamentally conservatism is supposed to be about order over chaos. There are a lot of good reasons to believe that the ever expanding federal government especially in the realm republicans attack it in like the economy and ever expanding regulations written by unelected and unaccountable bearucrats harms order. On some level, these positions are entirely reconcilable which is why our political dialogue evolved the way it did.

But it's much more fun to just look edgy and outside the system by pointing this stuff out and being like "OMG contradiction".
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9/30/2014 12:18:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 3:05:46 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/29/2014 10:59:42 AM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.

Haven't heard about democrats saying that only evolution should be taught in school, I'm pretty sure your a bit off there.

Go talk to literally any Democrat out there and ask them whether people should be allowed to teach Creationism in Public Schools. Every one of them will say no, often justifying their stance by saying that there is "no proof" of Creationism.

Again I think your wrong here, I live in MD which is a typically blue state and we are taught about Christianity along with various other religions in public HS. In fact world religion is a required class to graduate. So should creationism be taught yes, I think most dems would agree with that. Should it be taught in science class no, b/c it isn't science. But there should be some kind of religious course which teaches the principals of the major religions.
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9/30/2014 3:36:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/30/2014 12:18:06 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 9/29/2014 3:05:46 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/29/2014 10:59:42 AM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:20:32 PM, LogicalLunatic wrote:
At 9/27/2014 6:06:52 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

Democratic Values:
1. You should not have the right to own a gun.
2. You cannot be taught anything other than Evolution.
3. You must have health insurance.

4. Choice is good.

Haven't heard about democrats saying that only evolution should be taught in school, I'm pretty sure your a bit off there.

Go talk to literally any Democrat out there and ask them whether people should be allowed to teach Creationism in Public Schools. Every one of them will say no, often justifying their stance by saying that there is "no proof" of Creationism.

Again I think your wrong here, I live in MD which is a typically blue state and we are taught about Christianity along with various other religions in public HS. In fact world religion is a required class to graduate. So should creationism be taught yes, I think most dems would agree with that. Should it be taught in science class no, b/c it isn't science. But there should be some kind of religious course which teaches the principals of the major religions.

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10/1/2014 10:07:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/30/2014 8:53:53 AM, TN05 wrote:
What is the issue with that? It is equal if you make everything one.


Then what is the point of your position? You stated that you want civil unions in lieu of marriage. The conventional case for that is that marriage is "sacred" -- note that church and state cannot ever legally intermingle. Now you're suggesting that we all ought to have civil unions, which would require changing every mention of marriage is federal law to "civil union." Why? Why not just broaden the definition of "marriage" such that it isn't discriminatory against people who are different from you?

A fetus is not part of your body, sorry.


This is such a dumb comment. A fetus in its earlier stages is not a person. It isn't sentient nor can it feel pain. The case for bodily autonomy is that a woman should have the right, before let's say the 20-week mark, to control what happens with her own body, meaning that if she doesn't want to exert the physical, emotional and financial strain of carrying that child to term, then she shouldn't. There are a variety of arguments for this position. First, that fetus, who is by all means not a human being, doesn't have any right to use her body if she doesn't will it. Second, back before Roe, women sought unsafe, back-alley abortions. Birth rates post-Roe were steady, so we know for a fact that women still were capable of getting abortions, but they were significantly less safe, both for her and for her fetus. As a pro-lifer, you should care about these things. Third, if she isn't able to care for a child, financially or otherwise -- and we know for a fact that the GOP would rather throw a bone to Exxon than to a starving family because they're so "pro-life" -- that child is going to grow up in obscene circumstances.

3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

This is a Democrat value too, m8.

This is a false equivalency that we see all too often these days when people, particularly in the mainstream press, want to equivocate, or in the case of Republicans who have nothing at all to offer to the table. No, some Democrats are against pot legalization, but many more Dems than Repubs are in favor. Legalizing pot doesn't exactly coincide with governance based on your magic book, in spite of the fact that the Bible never mentions it.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

This isn't even properly structured. What in the world are you intending to say? I think this may be indicative of your intelligence level, based on your past posts.
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10/1/2014 1:39:58 PM
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At 10/1/2014 10:07:51 AM, BobTurner wrote:
At 9/30/2014 8:53:53 AM, TN05 wrote:
What is the issue with that? It is equal if you make everything one.


Then what is the point of your position? You stated that you want civil unions in lieu of marriage. The conventional case for that is that marriage is "sacred" -- note that church and state cannot ever legally intermingle. Now you're suggesting that we all ought to have civil unions, which would require changing every mention of marriage is federal law to "civil union." Why? Why not just broaden the definition of "marriage" such that it isn't discriminatory against people who are different from you?

My position is that the government should give civil unions, and if you want a 'marriage' you can go to a church or whatever and get married. If you think that's a discriminatory position you are delusional.

A fetus is not part of your body, sorry.


This is such a dumb comment. A fetus in its earlier stages is not a person. It isn't sentient nor can it feel pain. The case for bodily autonomy is that a woman should have the right, before let's say the 20-week mark, to control what happens with her own body, meaning that if she doesn't want to exert the physical, emotional and financial strain of carrying that child to term, then she shouldn't. There are a variety of arguments for this position. First, that fetus, who is by all means not a human being, doesn't have any right to use her body if she doesn't will it. Second, back before Roe, women sought unsafe, back-alley abortions. Birth rates post-Roe were steady, so we know for a fact that women still were capable of getting abortions, but they were significantly less safe, both for her and for her fetus. As a pro-lifer, you should care about these things. Third, if she isn't able to care for a child, financially or otherwise -- and we know for a fact that the GOP would rather throw a bone to Exxon than to a starving family because they're so "pro-life" -- that child is going to grow up in obscene circumstances.

I see you can't refute my point that 'a fetus is not part of your body', so you just rant on why you love abortion. Believe it or not, I don't at the moment support legislation that would ban all abortions. I don't think there is support for it. I do support near total a ban on second and third trimester abortions, as well as reasonable restrictions (ie. making clinics meet the same requirements as other 'health' facilities, requiring parental notification, etc.) on other abortions. These are all supported by vast majorities of the american people. But of course I'm the radical dummy here.

3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

This is a Democrat value too, m8.

This is a false equivalency that we see all too often these days when people, particularly in the mainstream press, want to equivocate, or in the case of Republicans who have nothing at all to offer to the table. No, some Democrats are against pot legalization, but many more Dems than Repubs are in favor. Legalizing pot doesn't exactly coincide with governance based on your magic book, in spite of the fact that the Bible never mentions it.

Got any evidence? And BTW, I'm in favor of legalization.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

u wot m8?

This isn't even properly structured. What in the world are you intending to say? I think this may be indicative of your intelligence level, based on your past posts.

I think this response may be indicative of your intelligence level, given that it was Wallstreetatheist - not me - that said 'u wot m8'. But I wouldn't expect your brain to be able to handle that.