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Should women be allowed to have an abortion?

SitaraMusica
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10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.
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11/19/2014 5:08:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It all depends upon whether the ectopic pregancy is endangering the mother's life, in which case it is a matter of self-defence. According to mainstream self-defence ethics, self-defence can allow killing if that is the only way to save the mother's life. Therefore abortion is justified if it is to save the mothers life.

However, in all other cases abortion is wrong because it is murder of a human being. I could go into this a lot more but I'll wait for someone to argue against me :)
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11/19/2014 9:30:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Abortion should be legal, free, and on demand at any point during pregnancy with no restrictions and no questions asked. The fetus is not its own person with rights, and even if it was, its rights would come second to the rights of the mother.
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11/19/2014 11:31:49 AM
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11/21/2014 11:31:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Abortion is pure evil. It really contradicts God's plan. By aborting a child, we are murdering a human. We are all created in Gods image and likeness. He loves us. Everything happens for a reason. It is very selfish to put the needs of the woman first before God's plan... Just imagine the pain the child must feel getting torn apart. It's awful to say that something so vicious is accepted by "peace loving" liberals who do not care about our next generation. Some may say that the abortion is necessary and that the child is going to have a horrible life. No. No life is horrible. By being born in this great nation we have the opportunity to do anything we set our minds to. The aborted May have created a cure for cancer, who knows a life was taken away. And to the guy that said abortions should be at anytime that's just messed up. I looked at your page and you're a socialist and atheist.... Do some soul searching. I wish the best to whoever reads this. God loves you
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11/24/2014 11:29:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/19/2014 9:30:34 AM, SomebodyWhoExists wrote:
"The fetus is not its own person with rights, and even if it was, its rights would come second to the rights of the mother."

Actually....... The fetus does have legal rights. American law recognizes an unborn fetus as an individual with individual rights at every point in pregnancy. In 2004, the federal government passed into law the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which makes it illegal to harm (either intentionally or unintentionally) an unborn child. The law defines "unborn child" as follows: "the term 'unborn child' means a child in utero, and the term 'child in utero' or 'child, who is in utero' means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb." This means that if drunk driver hits a pregnant woman who, as a result, loses her baby, he can be charged with homicide even if the mother survives. This remains true whether the mother is 4 or 40 weeks pregnant. The fetus has individual rights protected by law as a member of the Homo sapiens species at every stage of development.
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11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.
SitaraMusica
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11/24/2014 5:32:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.

My body, my right, my choice. I have the right to use contraception. I am not suupporting abortion at all. If the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will die anyway, the mother has the right to choose. Otherwise, I oppose abortion.
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11/24/2014 5:39:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/24/2014 5:32:08 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.

My body, my right, my choice. I have the right to use contraception. I am not suupporting abortion at all. If the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will die anyway, the mother has the right to choose. Otherwise, I oppose abortion.

You don't have the right to kill people.
SitaraMusica
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11/24/2014 6:39:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/24/2014 5:39:20 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 11/24/2014 5:32:08 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.

My body, my right, my choice. I have the right to use contraception. I am not suupporting abortion at all. If the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will die anyway, the mother has the right to choose. Otherwise, I oppose abortion.

You don't have the right to kill people.

Yes I do if my life is in danger. I have the right to defend myself.
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11/25/2014 3:07:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/24/2014 6:39:00 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 5:39:20 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 11/24/2014 5:32:08 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.

My body, my right, my choice. I have the right to use contraception. I am not suupporting abortion at all. If the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will die anyway, the mother has the right to choose. Otherwise, I oppose abortion.

You don't have the right to kill people.

Yes I do if my life is in danger. I have the right to defend myself.

You dont have a right to be lazy and instead of having abstinence decide to have sex and then abort that baby for a reason that does not threaten your life
SitaraMusica
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11/25/2014 4:45:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/25/2014 3:07:08 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 11/24/2014 6:39:00 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 5:39:20 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 11/24/2014 5:32:08 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/24/2014 4:58:59 PM, Redspectre wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

No. Abortion is genocide. Killing a baby is just lazy work anyways. If you didn't want a baby, you shouldn't have had sex.

My body, my right, my choice. I have the right to use contraception. I am not suupporting abortion at all. If the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will die anyway, the mother has the right to choose. Otherwise, I oppose abortion.

You don't have the right to kill people.

Yes I do if my life is in danger. I have the right to defend myself.

You dont have a right to be lazy and instead of having abstinence decide to have sex and then abort that baby for a reason that does not threaten your life

I have the right to use contraception. I have the right to defend my own life.
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11/26/2014 3:05:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/19/2014 9:30:34 AM, SomebodyWhoExists wrote:
Abortion should be legal, free, and on demand at any point during pregnancy with no restrictions and no questions asked. The fetus is not its own person with rights, and even if it was, its rights would come second to the rights of the mother.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? so apparently murder should not only be allowed but the funds for it should be coercicely taken from the population.
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11/26/2014 5:00:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Sure. If I could get pregnant, abortions would probably be a monthly thing.
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11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.
SitaraMusica
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11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.
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11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM
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At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.
SitaraMusica
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11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did? Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?
SitaraMusica
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11/26/2014 10:12:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/19/2014 5:08:37 AM, Philocat wrote:
It all depends upon whether the ectopic pregancy is endangering the mother's life, in which case it is a matter of self-defence. According to mainstream self-defence ethics, self-defence can allow killing if that is the only way to save the mother's life. Therefore abortion is justified if it is to save the mothers life.

However, in all other cases abortion is wrong because it is murder of a human being. I could go into this a lot more but I'll wait for someone to argue against me :)

I agree.
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11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
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11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.
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11/26/2014 10:21:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.

Well, yeah, but there are still situations that arise, such as molestation or rape that isn't reported nor acknowledged due to shame.
SitaraMusica
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11/26/2014 10:27:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:21:58 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.

Well, yeah, but there are still situations that arise, such as molestation or rape that isn't reported nor acknowledged due to shame.
Yeah, I agree. I thought I was pregnant by my second rapist.
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11/26/2014 10:33:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:27:46 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:21:58 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.

Well, yeah, but there are still situations that arise, such as molestation or rape that isn't reported nor acknowledged due to shame.
Yeah, I agree. I thought I was pregnant by my second rapist.

That's terrible. I'm sorry. I'm glad you said "I thought" rather than "I was."

I don't pretend to imagine that abortion is some easy, insignificant act. I have to admit that, as a man, it's hard to really have an opinion at all. I wonder how my views would differ if I ran the risk of becoming pregnant.
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11/26/2014 10:39:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:33:00 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:27:46 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:21:58 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.

Well, yeah, but there are still situations that arise, such as molestation or rape that isn't reported nor acknowledged due to shame.
Yeah, I agree. I thought I was pregnant by my second rapist.

That's terrible. I'm sorry. I'm glad you said "I thought" rather than "I was."

I don't pretend to imagine that abortion is some easy, insignificant act. I have to admit that, as a man, it's hard to really have an opinion at all. I wonder how my views would differ if I ran the risk of becoming pregnant.

Thank you. You a kind soul. I may not always agree with abortion, but I understand why women make that choice. A pregnancy scare is very traumatic.
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11/27/2014 3:21:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 10:39:57 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:33:00 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:27:46 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:21:58 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:18:24 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:14:38 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:10:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 10:00:46 PM, Such wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:58:03 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 11/26/2014 9:37:10 PM, Such wrote:
At 10/9/2014 9:56:04 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
I think women should be allowed to have an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, but otherwise no. If her life is in danger otherwise, she can give birth and bond with the baby. That would not be an abortion in the second example.

I think that abortion should be something that is fully assessed, with lines drawn based on reasonable restrictions. I think that every new, unconsidered case should be placed under new assessment.

Just saying "yes" or "no" is wholly unconstructive and will inevitably result in unreasonable situations.

Where do you draw said line? I draw it at implantation.

It depends. When it comes to rape, I don't. That's up to the woman. Likewise with child molestation. When it comes to a threat to life, I think that it should be reasonably assessed and determined by the mother (and father, if applicable). When it comes to unplanned pregnancies, I don't think that abortion should be an option.

Fair enough. Why should the baby have to die for something someone else did?

Well, I think the struggle of their birth should be prevented, sure.

Would you kill a born person conceived by rape?

No, but it's a different story when it comes to someone who is self-sufficient.
With things like the Ella pill, abortion is no longer needed.

Well, yeah, but there are still situations that arise, such as molestation or rape that isn't reported nor acknowledged due to shame.
Yeah, I agree. I thought I was pregnant by my second rapist.

That's terrible. I'm sorry. I'm glad you said "I thought" rather than "I was."

I don't pretend to imagine that abortion is some easy, insignificant act. I have to admit that, as a man, it's hard to really have an opinion at all. I wonder how my views would differ if I ran the risk of becoming pregnant.

Thank you. You a kind soul. I may not always agree with abortion, but I understand why women make that choice. A pregnancy scare is very traumatic.

I agree, but I think it is a misconception in society that aborting the child of your rapist will make anything better. An abortion doesn't 'undo' the rape or make anything better at all. 80+% of women regretted aborting their unborn babies conceived of rape
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11/27/2014 6:16:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I personally think that a woman should be able to have an abortion as it is a personal choice. I believe that this is a question of individual rights. Also, banning abortion would have detrimental social effects. After the Communist government in Romania banned abortion in the 1960s, social and health problems rose substantially. The legalization of abortion in America in the 1970s ushered in a plethora of health benefits.
--Aiden Sjork