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11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM
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And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.
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11/5/2014 9:08:40 AM
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At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

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11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?
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11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.
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11/5/2014 9:40:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Might be Food Stamp hangovers....
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11/5/2014 9:40:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:40:06 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Might be Food Stamp hangovers....

You really don't want to get into a food stamp discussion, do you?
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11/5/2014 9:41:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

iPads friggin outcorrect. Dagger = daggum
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11/5/2014 9:42:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:40:41 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:40:06 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Might be Food Stamp hangovers....

You really don't want to get into a food stamp discussion, do you?

Only if you are buying.
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11/5/2014 9:46:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Gridlock at its finest.
What are you complaining about? At least you don't have some asshat comedian winning reelection to the Senate who ran on a campaign of him helping rape victims, when his bill was so poorly worded, it didn't have much of an impact, and not to mention states all had similar laws. (not like the opposition was running any better of ads, either)

Government at its finest....pass a law that has zero effect and toot your horn.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/5/2014 9:48:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Actually, what does this even matter?
Let's not forget that Dems had complete control of all three houses of congress in 2008-2010. They seemed to only be able to pass one major piece of legislation, and it was horribly flawed.
Dare I say, intentionally flawed. Almost like, hey, vote us in over the next few years to fix it, because "they" can't be trusted to.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/5/2014 9:50:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:48:54 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Actually, what does this even matter?
Let's not forget that Dems had complete control of all three houses of congress in 2008-2010. They seemed to only be able to pass one major piece of legislation, and it was horribly flawed.
Dare I say, intentionally flawed. Almost like, hey, vote us in over the next few years to fix it, because "they" can't be trusted to.

What three houses of Congress?
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11/5/2014 9:59:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:46:14 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Gridlock at its finest.
What are you complaining about? At least you don't have some asshat comedian winning reelection to the Senate who ran on a campaign of him helping rape victims, when his bill was so poorly worded, it didn't have much of an impact, and not to mention states all had similar laws. (not like the opposition was running any better of ads, either)

Government at its finest....pass a law that has zero effect and toot your horn.

Yeah, I think the dems really over played the war on women stuff. The republicans (ask Karl Rove discussed on Fox yesterday) much more actively picked off the crazy stupid Todd Akin type candidates in the primaries so that really missed the mark.
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11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.
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11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities, when voter fraud is such a small problem? How many elections have been won by voter fraud? There seem to be more allegations of fraud than actual instances that seriously impact elections.

I personally don't think voter turnout could have saved the democrats. They didn't run campaigns as well and the frustration with obama's record, whether or not it is legitimate, probably would have given the republicans a majority anyway. Maybe they wouldn't be down 5 seats, but they would almost certainly still be down.
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11/5/2014 10:04:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:50:55 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:48:54 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Actually, what does this even matter?
Let's not forget that Dems had complete control of all three houses of congress in 2008-2010. They seemed to only be able to pass one major piece of legislation, and it was horribly flawed.
Dare I say, intentionally flawed. Almost like, hey, vote us in over the next few years to fix it, because "they" can't be trusted to.

What three houses of Congress?

You know what I mean >.<
Senate, House, and President - the three bodies that pass legislation.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/5/2014 10:08:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.

Those supreme court dbags upheld gay marriage.
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11/5/2014 10:09:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:08:33 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.

Those supreme court dbags upheld gay marriage.

And obamacare. They have 5 conservatives but they don't make all the wrong decisions.
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11/5/2014 10:10:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM, numberwang wrote:
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities, when voter fraud is such a small problem? How many elections have been won by voter fraud? There seem to be more allegations of fraud than actual instances that seriously impact elections.

I personally don't think voter turnout could have saved the democrats. They didn't run campaigns as well and the frustration with obama's record, whether or not it is legitimate, probably would have given the republicans a majority anyway. Maybe they wouldn't be down 5 seats, but they would almost certainly still be down.

No-one really knows the extent of actual voter fraud. I prefer to let voter fraud stay as is and secret.
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11/5/2014 10:12:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:09:20 AM, numberwang wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:08:33 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.

Those supreme court dbags upheld gay marriage.

And obamacare. They have 5 conservatives but they don't make all the wrong decisions.

You mean they don't judge based on party affiliation. That's a stretch on claiming what is just law is also right.
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11/5/2014 10:14:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:12:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:09:20 AM, numberwang wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:08:33 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.

Those supreme court dbags upheld gay marriage.

And obamacare. They have 5 conservatives but they don't make all the wrong decisions.

You mean they don't judge based on party affiliation. That's a stretch on claiming what is just law is also right.

I wasn't implying that any democratic law=right, I was saying that they won't all go conservative all the time. So yeah, what you said.
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11/5/2014 10:15:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:08:33 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:00:48 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I know. It hurts.

Senate is conservative. House is conservative.
Everyone know that the Supreme Court has 5 conservative leaning dbags.
The only branch that isn't conservative is run by one of the worst liberals I have seen.

Those supreme court dbags upheld gay marriage.

Not all of them. I also am not saying they are extreme conservative, just that they are conservatives.
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11/5/2014 10:18:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 9:59:32 AM, numberwang wrote:

Yeah, I think the dems really over played the war on women stuff. The republicans (ask Karl Rove discussed on Fox yesterday) much more actively picked off the crazy stupid Todd Akin type candidates in the primaries so that really missed the mark.

Both sides over play the "wars". It's annoying.
Al Franken's ads were nothing but emotional tripe, but so were his GOP opponent's, saying little more than "Franken votes with Obama 95% of the time", and how he is a family man.

Franken authored a bill that makes it so women don't have to pay for rape kits, even though states have a victim fund, so they were often reimbursed by that. Now, the hospitals contact the victim fund. It's not really that impressive, and different states apply the law differently, so rape kits are still, in fact, charged to the victim, but insurance covers it.
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11/5/2014 10:23:47 AM
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It's not like the congress was doing anything useful anyway...
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11/5/2014 10:38:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:23:47 AM, Fly wrote:
It's not like the congress was doing anything useful anyway...

Yeah, republicans pretty much were running the show from the house anyway. The same amount of nothing will get done, just a new minority.

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11/5/2014 10:50:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM, numberwang wrote:
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities, when voter fraud is such a small problem? How many elections have been won by voter fraud? There seem to be more allegations of fraud than actual instances that seriously impact elections.

I personally don't think voter turnout could have saved the democrats. They didn't run campaigns as well and the frustration with obama's record, whether or not it is legitimate, probably would have given the republicans a majority anyway. Maybe they wouldn't be down 5 seats, but they would almost certainly still be down.

"which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities"

Proclaiming the party dogma? People should have some form of ID to begin with.
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11/5/2014 11:12:23 AM
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At 11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM, numberwang wrote:
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities,

Explain. . . . . . . .

How hard is it to show an ID? I mean, if you drive to the poll, you'd obviously have your license, so why is this such a big deal?

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11/5/2014 11:36:03 AM
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At 11/5/2014 9:38:12 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:37:00 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/5/2014 9:05:43 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
And you screwed it up. Disappointing. Y'all know what this is about.

I'm guessing this is about voter turnout, but what is it about?

Pretty much. I think that if voters turned out, the dagger redcoats wouldn't have the senate.

Well my district is so gerrymandered that it made no difference anyway.
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11/5/2014 11:37:21 AM
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At 11/5/2014 11:12:23 AM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM, numberwang wrote:
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities,

Explain. . . . . . . .

How hard is it to show an ID? I mean, if you drive to the poll, you'd obviously have your license, so why is this such a big deal?

It's a big deal if it catches voter fraud and it turns out it's actually a big deal.
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11/5/2014 11:43:23 AM
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At 11/5/2014 11:12:23 AM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 11/5/2014 10:04:23 AM, numberwang wrote:
Speaking of voter turnout, is anyone else seriously disturbed by the voter ID laws, which disproportionally disenfranchise poor minorities,

Explain. . . . . . . .

How hard is it to show an ID? I mean, if you drive to the poll, you'd obviously have your license, so why is this such a big deal?

It's not a matter of how difficult it is. The facts of the matter are this:

1. There has never been substantial evidence of any kind to suggest that voter fraud (the #1 cited reason for these laws) has any meaningful impact whatsoever in any election anywhere, and this is not from a lack of trying to find it.

2. These laws result in a significant portion of the electorate being disenfranchised from the process, and voters who are impacted tend to heavily vote democratic.

Put these two things together and what do you get?
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11/5/2014 11:44:37 AM
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Oh, and yes, I am disturbed by voter ID laws. They are merely the latest in a long tradition of restricting the vote to people who will more likely vote for the party that implemented said laws.

And I am also disturbed by gerrymandering. Both these things undermine proper representation in our republic.

To be fair, the right to vote is not explicitly defended by the Constitution. Things that make you go "hmmm..."
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