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Gulf Oil Spill

Volkov
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4/30/2010 12:01:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm sure everyone has heard about this by now. An oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, just off the Louisiana coast and Mississippi Delta, sank into the ocean, and started leaking oil, almost 5,000 barrels of it per day, into what is considered a very fragile ecosystem. Several wildlife preserves dot the costs around the site, and oil has already beached along several islands and preserves. For an indepth look at the size of this, scroll to the bottom of this page: http://news.bbc.co.uk...

That same page is an article about the Obama administration's moratorium on offshore drilling until the cause of the accident is figured out. which I think is a fairly reasonable position to take. However, I have a feeling some here may disagree. I'm wondering what justification is possible, given the extensive damage that will end up being done by this situation.

Also, what will this do to the movements calling for more offshore drilling, coming from both the GOP and Democrats? If the damage is truly severe, this could really energize the population against more drilling. It is, after all, events like these which drive up opposition. Look at the fallout from Chernobyl or even Three Mile Island. Will either Dems or the GOP change their position?
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4/30/2010 1:43:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
ebil muslems esplodign oil rigs...! givign covr for demoncrat ubamo and libs to strt glbal waming scam...!
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5/1/2010 9:11:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 9:10:05 AM, frenchmoosetwo wrote:
i will clean it with supper vacum

Where can I get one of these super vacuums? I want one! :D
Ore_Ele
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5/1/2010 10:19:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
for many Dems, it will be a catalyst for "no more oil" but I think most Dems and even many moderate republicans it will be a catalyst for "more safety regulations" and the whole while, the further right and far right republicans (that were shouting "drill baby drill") are gonna be rather quite. Only the EXTREME right are gonna be looking for some way to blame Obama for this, like by calling it "Obama's Katrina"

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studentathletechristian8
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5/1/2010 7:19:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I just don't comprehend how such a massive process of taking care of oil sources and such doesn't have a good system of preventing breaks or spills.
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5/1/2010 7:28:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 7:19:22 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
I just don't comprehend how such a massive process of taking care of oil sources and such doesn't have a good system of preventing breaks or spills.

I was thinking the same thing.
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Volkov
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5/1/2010 7:29:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 7:17:04 PM, comoncents wrote:
Drill baby drill!!!!!

Why?

If this disaster can happen so easily and threaten so much, is drilling offshore such a good idea, comon?
belle
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5/1/2010 7:32:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 7:19:22 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
I just don't comprehend how such a massive process of taking care of oil sources and such doesn't have a good system of preventing breaks or spills.

... how much oil do we use?

... how often do you hear about large oil spills?

its like asking after a plane crash why airplanes don't have a system to prevent accidents. they have many! they're simply not infallible...
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
donniedarko
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5/1/2010 7:32:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 7:29:01 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 5/1/2010 7:17:04 PM, comoncents wrote:
Drill baby drill!!!!!

Why?

If this disaster can happen so easily and threaten so much, is drilling offshore such a good idea, comon?

I fail to see what the big deal is, the company is paying for it, and will clean it up completely. The company will fail most likely and better companies who take care of their oil drilling and regulate it better will take his place.
Volkov
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5/1/2010 7:45:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/1/2010 7:32:52 PM, donniedarko wrote:
I fail to see what the big deal is, the company is paying for it, and will clean it up completely. The company will fail most likely and better companies who take care of their oil drilling and regulate it better will take his place.

First off, there is no way BP is going to fail. That's the worst thing I've heard in a while. They'll be reprimanded, but it won't be much more than gesture. And I have some serious doubts about the reliability of consumers on this matter.

Secondly, simply "cleaning it up" doesn't solve the problem. The damage done to the ecosystem which this will effect will stay for years. Cleaning ducks doesn't solve the problem. There is no way to reverse the damage completely. If it doesn't get contained, it will f*ck up a helluva lot.

Thirdly, the entire point of the thread was to discuss what the fallout will be. If there are more regulations and safety precautions, then all the better. But it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not offshore drilling will or even should continue, given the risks. What will happen to "drill baby drill" if it loses steam?
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5/1/2010 7:58:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
SWAT TEAMS TO THE RESCUE!
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5/17/2010 9:20:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
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