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Giving the Benefit of a Doubt Based on Race

Objectivity
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11/26/2014 11:11:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Justice in this country has never been color blind unfortunately, the only thing that has happened is the racial bias in the justice system has progressively shifted from one end of the spectrum to the other.

In the post civil war era up until the civil rights movement black victims of white lynch mobs were overlooked by our justice system and the perpetrators of this heinous crime were pardoned by juries through jury nullification and by society, lynch mob killings were almost a de facto form of justifiable homicide, obviously this is morally reprehensible in every way and after the injustices were corrected we might have started to move towards a truly color blind justice system, but like everything else in this country once equality is near the oppressed use the past injustices levied against them to facilitate new injustice in society and sometimes in the courts (luckily not in Ferguson or the Trayvon Martin case), We have went from giving white lynch mobs the benefit of a doubt to giving people like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown who assault and attempt to kill officers of the law the benefit of a doubt in society by trying to find any means possible to blame their deaths on the person they assaulted that defended themselves.

Obviously the deaths of both Martin and Brown are tragic and they were young men who should have been given a chance, but not by the men that were just defending themselves from lethal assault, but the society that enabled them to become the people they became by being their adamant apologists that sought to justify their wrongdoing. Newsflash: Being apologists for those that do wrong is not helping them, it is harming them.
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11/26/2014 11:16:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Furthermore we have went from having white lynch mobs be given the status of justifiable homicide to having black mobs being given the status of justifiable homicide, assault and property destruction because they don't get their way.
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11/26/2014 11:39:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
You aren't seriously suggesting that racial bias in the U.S. justice system isn't heavily directed at minorities any more, are you?
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11/26/2014 11:51:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 11:39:32 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
You aren't seriously suggesting that racial bias in the U.S. justice system isn't heavily directed at minorities any more, are you?

It is directed at them, in their favor.
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11/26/2014 1:37:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm sure I could find a similar and perhaps even an equally feeble argument from Stormfront or some other such "pro-white European heritage" organization.

As it turns out, your screen name is an ironic one, much like a man with a shaved head being nicknamed "Curly."
"You don't have a right to be a jerk."
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11/26/2014 1:51:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Most recent debate followed by this thread: Resolved: "Private Businesses Ought to be Able to Deny Service based on Immutable Characteristics"

This, ladies and gentlemen, was a win.

But, why?

Did he present arguments that irrefutably proved people of certain appearances, ethnicities and handicaps (that don't affect the ability to perform a job) shouldn't be afforded a given job?

No.

The person who accepted the argument repeated forfeited "due to family issues."

Piggybacking on that win (assumably), here we are with this thread.

This opens up many questions, one of which being, "what does debate, with its highly specific and technical minutiae, teach those who rely on specialized rules alone rather than the truth and fidelity of ideas?"

Discuss.
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11/27/2014 1:56:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 1:51:38 PM, Such wrote:
Most recent debate followed by this thread: Resolved: "Private Businesses Ought to be Able to Deny Service based on Immutable Characteristics"

This, ladies and gentlemen, was a win.

But, why?

Did he present arguments that irrefutably proved people of certain appearances, ethnicities and handicaps (that don't affect the ability to perform a job) shouldn't be afforded a given job?

No.

The person who accepted the argument repeated forfeited "due to family issues."

Piggybacking on that win (assumably), here we are with this thread.

This opens up many questions, one of which being, "what does debate, with its highly specific and technical minutiae, teach those who rely on specialized rules alone rather than the truth and fidelity of ideas?"

Discuss.

If you think my victory in the aforementioned debate was unwarranted challenge me to a new one, same resolution same rules, I'll be waiting