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Best economic system?

comoncents
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5/8/2010 5:37:01 AM
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What is it and why?

American School
Anarchism
Anarcho-capitalism
Anarcho-communism
Autarky
Barter economy
Buddhist Economy
Capitalism
Colonialism
Communism
Coordinatorism
Corporatism
Corporate capitalism
Digital Economy
Distributism
Dirigisme
Fascist socialization
Feudalism
Green economy
Hydraulic despotism
Inclusive Democracy
Information economy
Internet Economy
Islamic economics
Japanese System
Knowledge economy
Libertarian communism
Libertarian socialism
Market economy
Market socialism
Marxian economics
Mercantilism
Mixed economy
Mutualism
National Socialism
Natural economy
Neo-colonialism
Network Economy
Nordic model
Non-property system
Parecon
Participatory economy
Planned economy
Progressive Utilization Theory
Resource-based economy
Self-management
Social market economy
Socialism
Socialist market economy
Syndicalism
Subsistence economy
Traditional economy
Virtual economy

What is the best way to regulate?
How do we go about implementing your system?
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5/8/2010 6:04:32 AM
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Theo Democratic

People should look at Iran, Saudi Arabia and learn something.
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5/8/2010 1:21:07 PM
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At 5/8/2010 1:18:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
A mixture of Capitalism and Socialism...that would be Social Democracy.

Oh wait, Social Market Economy. What am I doing? lol
GeoLaureate8
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5/8/2010 2:11:40 PM
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Panarcho-Resource Based Economy
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

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-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/8/2010 4:34:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/8/2010 6:04:32 AM, lastrequest691 wrote:
Theo Democratic

People should look at Iran, Saudi Arabia and learn something.

Err....both have terrible human rights records, and are only profitable because they have oil.
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5/8/2010 4:35:16 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:34:11 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 5/8/2010 6:04:32 AM, lastrequest691 wrote:
Theo Democratic

People should look at Iran, Saudi Arabia and learn something.

Err....both have terrible human rights records, and are only profitable because they have oil.

Yea, once that oil runs out I think those places are pretty much f*cked.
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5/8/2010 4:36:24 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:35:16 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Yea, once that oil runs out I think those places are pretty much f*cked.
I do not think we should worry about that. They will survive somehow, and probably always have something that the West wants. Currently it is petroleum.
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5/8/2010 4:38:52 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:36:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:35:16 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Yea, once that oil runs out I think those places are pretty much f*cked.
I do not think we should worry about that. They will survive somehow, and probably always have something that the West wants. Currently it is petroleum.

And petroleum is all they want, until it runs out and Is replaced by nuclear & other renewable resources. Once that happens, it's just unprofitable desert.
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5/8/2010 4:39:38 PM
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Not parecon. lol.
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5/8/2010 4:41:26 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:38:52 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:36:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:35:16 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Yea, once that oil runs out I think those places are pretty much f*cked.
I do not think we should worry about that. They will survive somehow, and probably always have something that the West wants. Currently it is petroleum.

And petroleum is all they want, until it runs out and Is replaced by nuclear & other renewable resources. Once that happens, it's just unprofitable desert.

Iraq and the Middle East is sacred grounds to the Illuminati. Iraq lies on what used to be ancient Sumer.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/8/2010 4:43:30 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:41:26 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:38:52 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:36:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:35:16 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Yea, once that oil runs out I think those places are pretty much f*cked.
I do not think we should worry about that. They will survive somehow, and probably always have something that the West wants. Currently it is petroleum.

And petroleum is all they want, until it runs out and Is replaced by nuclear & other renewable resources. Once that happens, it's just unprofitable desert.

Iraq and the Middle East is sacred grounds to the Illuminati. Iraq lies on what used to be ancient Sumer.

Of course only you would say something like that. :P Anyway, you seem to be the expert on this stuff so do you believe America's involvement in Iraq has something to do with it being important to the Illuminati?
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5/8/2010 4:45:03 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:38:52 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
And petroleum is all they want, until it runs out and Is replaced by nuclear & other renewable resources. Once that happens, it's just unprofitable desert.
There can be other things.

Technological advance in Islamic nations would improve the economies, too.
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5/8/2010 4:51:39 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:45:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:38:52 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
And petroleum is all they want, until it runs out and Is replaced by nuclear & other renewable resources. Once that happens, it's just unprofitable desert.
There can be other things.

Technological advance in Islamic nations would improve the economies, too.

Japan, Europe and the U.S. are technological powerhouses, and Saudi Arab pales in comparison.
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5/8/2010 4:54:40 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:51:39 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Japan, Europe and the U.S. are technological powerhouses, and Saudi Arab pales in comparison.
Dubai is a good example of a quick development. UAE is also developing rapidly.

Saudi Arabia will probably have many resources in the future. It will not continue being a desert, and will probably have wanted land by many other countries. For now, investing in technology will help.
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5/8/2010 4:54:51 PM
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Also, I like the idea of Autarky (That is, self sufficiency), but not as the central economic plan.
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5/8/2010 4:57:29 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:54:40 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:51:39 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Japan, Europe and the U.S. are technological powerhouses, and Saudi Arab pales in comparison.
Dubai is a good example of a quick development. UAE is also developing rapidly.

Because of oil. Once that goes, the economy will decline rapidly.


Saudi Arabia will probably have many resources in the future. It will not continue being a desert, and will probably have wanted land by many other countries. For now, investing in technology will help.

Yeah but they're too concerned with oil. Seriously, if the oil dried up right now in Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabias economy would collapse
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5/8/2010 4:58:49 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:56:45 PM, Nags wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:54:51 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I like North Korea.

Duuuuude?

Lol, Juche has elements of Autarky. I don't like the idea of closing off all borders, but I like the idea of a nation being able to provide for itself to some extent. I like and advocate international trade though, because the reality is a nation cannot have absolutely everything it needs.
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5/8/2010 4:59:52 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:58:49 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I don't like the idea of closing off all borders, but I like the idea of a nation being able to provide for itself to some extent. I like and advocate international trade though, because the reality is a nation cannot have absolutely everything it needs.

So are you a protectionist or not?
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5/8/2010 5:02:08 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:59:52 PM, Nags wrote:
At 5/8/2010 4:58:49 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I don't like the idea of closing off all borders, but I like the idea of a nation being able to provide for itself to some extent. I like and advocate international trade though, because the reality is a nation cannot have absolutely everything it needs.

So are you a protectionist or not?

Meh, to some extent, but only if it is necessary. I support buying the goods of your home nation first, but won't raise\create tariffs just so it happens.
Pizza. I have enormous respect for Pizza.
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5/8/2010 5:04:06 PM
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At 5/8/2010 5:02:08 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Meh, to some extent, but only if it is necessary. I support buying the goods of your home nation first, but won't raise\create tariffs just so it happens.

Oh. Alright. You know that protectionism and any tariffs whatsoever is bad economic policy. But personally, you'd buy a product "Made in Ireland" before you buy a product "Made in Other Country X."
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5/8/2010 5:06:26 PM
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At 5/8/2010 4:57:29 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Because of oil. Once that goes, the economy will decline rapidly.
There is tourism, industrialization, and so forth. People invest there.

Yeah but they're too concerned with oil. Seriously, if the oil dried up right now in Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabias economy would collapse
We are talking about the future.
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5/8/2010 5:06:39 PM
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To note, North Korea can barely provide for itself. It's military has to steal off civilians who have food only because they're close to the Chinese border and get first access to black market products which comes through.
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5/8/2010 5:07:40 PM
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At 5/8/2010 5:06:26 PM, Mirza wrote:
There is tourism, industrialization, and so forth. People invest there.

Tourism? Like, sunny beaches? I don't think the Sauds would like bikini-clad girls running around. Or, at least you wouldn't.
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5/8/2010 5:08:18 PM
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At 5/8/2010 5:07:40 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 5/8/2010 5:06:26 PM, Mirza wrote:
There is tourism, industrialization, and so forth. People invest there.

Tourism? Like, sunny beaches? I don't think the Sauds would like bikini-clad girls running around. Or, at least you wouldn't.

Apparently westerners go to Dubai alot.
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5/8/2010 5:09:53 PM
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At 5/8/2010 5:08:18 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 5/8/2010 5:07:40 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 5/8/2010 5:06:26 PM, Mirza wrote:
There is tourism, industrialization, and so forth. People invest there.

Tourism? Like, sunny beaches? I don't think the Sauds would like bikini-clad girls running around. Or, at least you wouldn't.

Apparently westerners go to Dubai alot.

I don't think you get what he's saying. Muslims that predominate the area wouldn't like bikini women running around the beaches. No bikini beaches = no tourism.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/8/2010 5:10:11 PM
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At 5/8/2010 5:08:18 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Apparently westerners go to Dubai alot.

Because it's an oil-rich, real-estate driven haven. Problem is, there is still enough restrictive laws in place to ward off most tourists from actually going anywhere outside of the tourist resorts. It wasn't that long ago that a Western couple were charged for holding hands in public, for Christ's sake.