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Ragnar_Rahl
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5/22/2010 9:00:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
cross state lines to buy health insurance is "Interstate commerce."

What precisely isn't?
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Xer
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5/22/2010 9:07:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
This thread assumes that politicians care that the Constitution is relevant or matters whatsoever.

Another tid-bit of the Constitution that all politicians love: the General Welfare clause. "General Welfare" means anything that the politicians believe is beneficial for the general welfare, is constitutional.
wjmelements
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5/22/2010 9:13:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
1. It is illegal to buy across state lines.
2. It is illegal not to buy insurance.
Number two is interstate commerce because of number five.
3. Insurance companies buy elections.
4. Insurance companies expect returns in their investments.
.: 5. The federal government must do everything in its power to increase insurance company profits.
Oh.
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Cody_Franklin
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5/22/2010 9:15:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/22/2010 9:13:11 PM, wjmelements wrote:
1. It is illegal to buy across state lines.
2. It is illegal not to buy insurance.
Number two is interstate commerce because of number five.
3. Insurance companies buy elections.
4. Insurance companies expect returns in their investments.
.: 5. The federal government must do everything in its power to increase insurance company profits.
Oh.

How do you feel about corporate campaign spending?
wjmelements
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5/22/2010 9:16:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/22/2010 9:15:13 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
How do you feel about corporate campaign spending?

The same way I feel about democracy.
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Cody_Franklin
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5/22/2010 9:17:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/22/2010 9:15:52 PM, Nags wrote:
At 5/22/2010 9:15:13 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
How do you feel about corporate campaign spending?

Free speech.

Aye. And, in a free society, I can't imagine them spending a great deal anyway, since there isn't very much they'd have to gain, given that government and economy would be wholly separate.
wjmelements
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5/22/2010 9:19:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Even the independent judiciary failed to enforce a constitution. How do you expect a constitution that fully separates the public sphere from the private to be successful?
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mattrodstrom
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5/22/2010 9:20:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/22/2010 9:00:03 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
cross state lines to buy health insurance is "Interstate commerce."

It's not.

I'd like to see reasoning that it is.

Also... I'd like a law passed saying that all Govt. people who attempt to unconstitutionally restrict peoples rights serve time in jail.

If they have some manner of somewhat coherent reasoning... or if they're proven to be too stupid to understand what good reasoning is... they'll get off.

But if they are proven to have been either negligent, or actively and knowingly undermining the constitution... then they serve some time.
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wjmelements
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5/22/2010 9:22:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/22/2010 9:20:35 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What constitutes "the public sphere"?

Government: Military, courts.
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