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Medieval communism?

Lukas8
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12/20/2014 12:28:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Ok, we know that the classical Marx-Leninist communism simply can't work well, in the modern society. But I wonder. Could a communist system be the best possible system in the medieval ages? Like making the most development,most free, be most humane... in medieval times.
Chimera
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12/20/2014 8:26:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:28:50 PM, Lukas8 wrote:
Ok, we know that the classical Marx-Leninist communism simply can't work well, in the modern society.

Not to be rude, but there is no such thing as 'Marxist-Leninist communism'. They are completely separate things. Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, and all the other different forms of Marxism are just worldviews that utilizes dialectical materialism as a mode of analysis.

Communism on the other hand, is a theoretical state of society where the state, class, and money has been abolished, and workers control the means of production.

Or simply put, Marxism is a means, Communism is an end.

But I wonder. Could a communist system be the best possible system in the medieval ages? Like making the most development,most free, be most humane... in medieval times.

Communism couldn't really exist within feudalism. Feudal relations are composed of the relations between a feudal lord and his fief, as well as the relationship between the feudal lord and his serfs. Communism couldn't exist if these relations exist, as communist relations require the dismantlement of kings, lords, serfs, peasants, merchants, etc. Communism can only exist when these relations are abolished within society, as it is classless. Only one system or the other could exist.

I also know that some Marxists would argue that communism wouldn't be possible at the historical point feudalism was in, as capitalism hadn't been introduced into society yet, and (according to some) capitalism is a necessary phase/prerequisite for socialism (lower-stage communism) and communism to exist (Marx would disagree however[1]).

1- https://www.marxists.org...
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12/21/2014 2:47:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:28:50 PM, Lukas8 wrote:
Ok, we know that the classical Marx-Leninist communism simply can't work well, in the modern society. But I wonder. Could a communist system be the best possible system in the medieval ages? Like making the most development,most free, be most humane... in medieval times.

Feudalism is incompatible with communism because feudalism still contains private ownership of the means of production used to exploit workers.
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Toviyah
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12/21/2014 5:15:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:28:50 PM, Lukas8 wrote:
Ok, we know that the classical Marx-Leninist communism simply can't work well, in the modern society. But I wonder. Could a communist system be the best possible system in the medieval ages? Like making the most development,most free, be most humane... in medieval times.
Well the closest to communism in the middle ages was the use of common land. Unfortunately, that was a tragic failure - in essence, people simply misused it because they could - the all owned the land and so could do whatever they wanted with it. People enclosed the common land because they could, and this simply caused rebellion.