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Legalizing Post-birth Abortion up to Age 8?

lannan13
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1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM
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So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)
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1/6/2015 6:35:19 PM
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Human life is sacred and should not be terminated under any circumstances except self preservation. But it doesn't shock me at all that those who dont feel this way would think nothing of killing children.
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1/7/2015 1:08:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

How do you get that Planned Parenthood wants to abortions against children up to age 8? There is nothing in what you posted that refers to such notions.

The question they are discussing at hand is whether botched abortion which results in a viable child outside the mother (aka born) should receive mandatory medical care to ensure viability or whether physician can complete the abortion outside the woman's body.

Planned Parenthood's stance was that the decision should be between the mother and physician not the state deciding that the baby must be saved.

I'm not taking a stance on this one, but completely different than what you framed up.
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1/10/2015 10:45:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

What you are witnessing is pro-choicers trying to remain consistent with their pro-choice beliefs. This is the consequence.
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1/10/2015 11:12:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

I did not read what you're claiming in the article. But I did read that Planned Parenthood is against keeping "newborn" babies alive after a botched abortion. In other words. the abortion procedure failed to kill the fetus and the baby is removed from the body alive.

I actually support Planned Parenthood's position on this. The goal of an abortion is to eliminate the unwanted pregnancy and any burden the pregnant female has to the fetus. If an abortion is performed, one objective should also be to destroy the fetus.

I am AGAINST allowing a mother to kill a baby or a child after it has already been birthed. I also believe states have the right to curtail or outlaw abortions in the final trimester of pregnancy, but not in earlier trimesters.

On another note, I also support capital punishment, I also support the killing of enemy soldiers in war (if they're not already captured), I also support the shooting and killing of criminal assailants during a crime if they threaten people with violence, I also support removing people in hopeless vegetative states off of respirators and other hospital machinery to keep them alive, at the family's discretion, I also support the killing of farm animals for human consumption, the killing of dangerous animals that threaten lives in human communities; I also support the killing and elimination of microorganisms that threat human life and human comfort.

So as you can see, I do support the killing of things that threaten human life and that reduce human comforts--including unwanted fetuses.

Yes, humans do kill things to make life enjoyable. It's time to grow up and get a firm grip on the genuine facts of life.
Juan_Pablo
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1/10/2015 11:21:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Oh, yes. And because humans have to kill other things to life and improve life's quality, I also believe no human should live forever. The only way I can justify living for eternity is if humans cease killing other things completely to maintain their lives.

Otherwise NO ONE SHOULD LIVE FOREVER! Eternal human life in a world like ours is morally unacceptable.
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1/10/2015 11:22:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/10/2015 11:21:23 AM, Juan_Pablo wrote:
Oh, yes. And because humans have to kill other things to life and improve life's quality, I also believe no human should live forever. The only way I can justify living for eternity is if humans cease killing other things completely to maintain their lives.

Otherwise NO ONE SHOULD LIVE FOREVER! Eternal human life in a world like ours is morally unacceptable.


Correction:

"And because humans have to kill other things to live and improve life's quality . . . "
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1/10/2015 4:41:21 PM
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At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

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1/10/2015 4:55:48 PM
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At 1/10/2015 10:45:13 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

What you are witnessing is pro-choicers trying to remain consistent with their pro-choice beliefs. This is the consequence.

No, what you are witnessing is outright lies and propaganda from anti-abortion proponents.

Disagree and argue with pro-choice individuals, but do not strawman and lies about their position. Have the intellectual integrity and charity not to caricature those you disagree with.
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1/15/2015 3:26:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

Meh parents are the most dangerous thing to children beyond murder/abortion. I say from birth to 16-21 kids should be in protective care without contact with parent. You see on the news kids grow up killing people because parents suck at the parenting thing best solution is government run children raising centers paid by government and the parents of the children.

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1/15/2015 7:44:14 PM
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WND is a conspiracy theory website lol
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1/15/2015 8:06:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/6/2015 6:23:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
So there are several college professors and even planned parenthood now thinking about Legalizing Post-birth abortion up to the child is age 8. Their rational is that the child isn't a rational and fully functional human being. Now even though I'm Pro-Life, I respect a women's right to an abortion, but after the child is born is just flat out murder! What are some of your thoughts on this? (http://www.wnd.com...)

Besides the fact that you just completely misrepresented the article...

World Net Daily? The same group of people who reported that Obama is secretly gay married and had his gay lover killed off to protect his political ambitions? Really?