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6/23/2010 5:09:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:08:12 PM, Mirza wrote:
Afghanistan: 9/11-like terrorists supposedly residing in Afghanistan.

But terrosists are all over the place. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Why just there?

Iraq: WMD's

suuuuure it was
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6/23/2010 5:10:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:09:48 PM, FREEDO wrote:
But terrosists are all over the place. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Why just there?
Good question. Send it to the White House.

suuuuure it was
Yes, one would think.
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6/23/2010 5:13:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:08:12 PM, Mirza wrote:
Afghanistan: 9/11-like terrorists supposedly residing in Afghanistan.

Iraq: George W. Bush

fx'd
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6/23/2010 5:16:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:13:00 PM, MikeLoviN wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:08:12 PM, Mirza wrote:
Iraq: George W. Bush

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I am not saying that it was the true reason, but that it was the thing that was told to the public.
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6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...
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6/23/2010 5:17:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:13:00 PM, MikeLoviN wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:08:12 PM, Mirza wrote:
Afghanistan: Barack Obama

Iraq: George W. Bush

fx'd

Fixed.
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6/23/2010 5:18:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:17:31 PM, Nags wrote:
Fixed.
Barack Obama is not the reason why Afghanistan was invaded in the first place. He just continued it.
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6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.
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6/23/2010 5:48:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.

Well that is one of the reason I now find myself believing in the Conspiracy theory side
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

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6/23/2010 5:51:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:48:39 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.

Well that is one of the reason I now find myself believing in the Conspiracy theory side

What would that be? That he's dead?
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6/23/2010 5:54:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:51:05 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:48:39 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.

Well that is one of the reason I now find myself believing in the Conspiracy theory side

What would that be? That he's dead?

Oh no the link I provided explains my position more fully but basically I don't think it is coincidence we just happen to invade a country right before they were found to have mountainfuls (literally) of valuable resources
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: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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6/23/2010 5:56:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:54:10 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:51:05 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:48:39 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.

Well that is one of the reason I now find myself believing in the Conspiracy theory side

What would that be? That he's dead?

Oh no the link I provided explains my position more fully but basically I don't think it is coincidence we just happen to invade a country right before they were found to have mountainfuls (literally) of valuable resources

It's also interesting that many corporation profit big-time from the wars. And there is a clear revolving door between corporations and the government.
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6/23/2010 5:58:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:56:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:54:10 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:51:05 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:48:39 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:46:51 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:16:55 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

The official justification for being in Iraq is that they had WMD's and since we took away their government we have to give them a new one

The official justification for being in Afghanistan is that is where Bin Ladan is and we need to stop him
And yes you do have a very good point there are terrorists all over the place so why don't we attack their

Let me ask is it just "coincidence" that just happen to invade a country several years before massive deposits of a ton of valuable resources are discovered?

http://dilbert.com...

Actually, Bin Laden is thought to be hidden in Pakistan. Some contend that he isn't even alive.

Well that is one of the reason I now find myself believing in the Conspiracy theory side

What would that be? That he's dead?

Oh no the link I provided explains my position more fully but basically I don't think it is coincidence we just happen to invade a country right before they were found to have mountainfuls (literally) of valuable resources

It's also interesting that many corporation profit big-time from the wars. And there is a clear revolving door between corporations and the government.

Welcome to the conspiracy theorists side have some cookies
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: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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6/23/2010 6:05:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:58:42 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:

Welcome to the conspiracy theorists side have some cookies

Do I get a welcome? ;) I'm on the Conspiracy Theory side too. Osama Bin Laden is actually a CIA agent paid to look and act like a terrorist in order to give the US justification to invade the Middle East. Yep.
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6/23/2010 6:07:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 6:05:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:58:42 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:

Welcome to the conspiracy theorists side have some cookies

Do I get a welcome? ;) I'm on the Conspiracy Theory side too. Osama Bin Laden is actually a CIA agent paid to look and act like a terrorist in order to give the US justification to invade the Middle East. Yep.

I am sorry we are all out of cookies but we still have some juice left :-)
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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6/23/2010 6:08:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 6:07:03 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 6/23/2010 6:05:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/23/2010 5:58:42 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:

Welcome to the conspiracy theorists side have some cookies

Do I get a welcome? ;) I'm on the Conspiracy Theory side too. Osama Bin Laden is actually a CIA agent paid to look and act like a terrorist in order to give the US justification to invade the Middle East. Yep.

I am sorry we are all out of cookies but we still have some juice left :-)

Ok, I'll have that. Yay! :D
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6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Afghanistan: Taliban gave comfort and aid to 9/11 attack coordinator Osama bin Laden, oppressed women, and served as a training haven for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.
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7/1/2010 7:00:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/23/2010 5:02:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't know very much about it. What is the suppose justification for us being there?

Afganistan is to counter the Taliban who had control over the afgan government for a while. The US and NATO are there to assist the Afgan government and Pakistan to root out Islamic extremist's that pose a mutual national security problem.

Iraq was apparently to find WMD's that had been hidden. Iraq refused to co-operate about it's potential Nuclear weapon's and therefore was invaded. No weapon's were found but the war is still justified. They took out Saddam Hussein who was a genocidal bastard
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7/1/2010 7:08:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Afghanistan: Taliban gave comfort and aid to 9/11 attack coordinator Osama bin Laden, oppressed women, and served as a training haven for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.

Very unlikely, relations between US and Afghanistan were excellent in the months leading up the war... even though Osama bin laden who was already numero uno for the FBI was decided to have been retroactively hiding there.


Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam fully complied with the weapons inspectors.
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7/1/2010 8:29:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/1/2010 7:08:50 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam fully complied with the weapons inspectors.

After about 6 months
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: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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7/1/2010 8:30:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Israel does the same and they already have nuclear weapons!

The difference is, as one Israeli put it: "In America Jews OWN the politicians."
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7/1/2010 8:32:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/1/2010 8:30:50 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Israel does the same and they already have nuclear weapons!

The difference is, as one Israeli put it: "In America Jews OWN the politicians."

But they haven't sworn to destroy their neighbors called the US the great Satan and don't slaughter hundreds of their own people for fun
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
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7/1/2010 10:24:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/1/2010 8:32:37 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/1/2010 8:30:50 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Israel does the same and they already have nuclear weapons!

The difference is, as one Israeli put it: "In America Jews OWN the politicians."

But they haven't sworn to destroy their neighbors called the US the great Satan and don't slaughter hundreds of their own people for fun

Most of these countries really aren't as bad as most of the west makes them out to be(f*ck the Taliban and Hamas though), but meh. That could be my own biased thinking.
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7/1/2010 10:25:36 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/1/2010 10:24:32 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/1/2010 8:32:37 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/1/2010 8:30:50 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 6/30/2010 7:27:55 PM, Reasoning wrote:

Iraq: Saddam Hussein's repeated scofflawing of numerous U.N. resolutions and rumours that Iraq still pursued weapons of mass destruction.

Israel does the same and they already have nuclear weapons!

The difference is, as one Israeli put it: "In America Jews OWN the politicians."

But they haven't sworn to destroy their neighbors called the US the great Satan and don't slaughter hundreds of their own people for fun

Most of these countries really aren't as bad as most of the west makes them out to be(f*ck the Taliban and Hamas though), but meh. That could be my own biased thinking.

I don't have a problem with most Middle East countries except the authoritarianism of their regimes but Iraq and Iran both had complete nutcases running their country
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: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

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