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6/24/2010 9:35:58 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I support personal liberty and personal responsibility. You are free to do what you want so long as this does not harm the rights of others, you are responsible for your own upkeep and welfare.

The free market is the default, but needs to be tinkered with as and when depending on circumstances. Such as for instance bank regulations, drinking water purity, education standards.

There does need to be a safety net for the suddenly unemployed or disabled. It should be a safety net, not a dependency culture however. If it can be established fire private charity (religious or secular is immaterial to me) then thats good... if not it has to be via the state.

Universal health care. Yay!

Taxes should be where possible tied to a specific service that only the Government can or should provide. Failing this the Government has a legal obligation to publish budgets than can be understood by the average person, in the time it takes to read a tabloid newspaper.

Democracy... yay!

Human rights carry obligations, if the obligations are not met your rights are not deserved.

So anyway... I am not a libertarian, not a conservative and I am increasingly told I am not a liberal. What am I?
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 9:35:58 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I support personal liberty and personal responsibility. You are free to do what you want so long as this does not harm the rights of others, you are responsible for your own upkeep and welfare.

The free market is the default, but needs to be tinkered with as and when depending on circumstances. Such as for instance bank regulations, drinking water purity, education standards.

There does need to be a safety net for the suddenly unemployed or disabled. It should be a safety net, not a dependency culture however. If it can be established fire private charity (religious or secular is immaterial to me) then thats good... if not it has to be via the state.

Universal health care. Yay!

Taxes should be where possible tied to a specific service that only the Government can or should provide. Failing this the Government has a legal obligation to publish budgets than can be understood by the average person, in the time it takes to read a tabloid newspaper.

Democracy... yay!

Human rights carry obligations, if the obligations are not met your rights are not deserved.

So anyway... I am not a libertarian, not a conservative and I am increasingly told I am not a liberal. What am I?

Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

however from what you have just described I would say Economic Liberal and Social Libertarian
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6/24/2010 11:02:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

What?!

If CN is an anarcho-communist, then what the hell am I?
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6/24/2010 11:06:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:02:39 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

What?!

If CN is an anarcho-communist, then what the hell am I?

Well he has anarcho communist leanings whereas you seem to just feel more in favor of anarcho communism
at least according to that one quiz which I believe is inaccurate
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6/24/2010 11:09:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 9:35:58 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I support personal liberty and personal responsibility. You are free to do what you want so long as this does not harm the rights of others, you are responsible for your own upkeep and welfare.

The free market is the default, but needs to be tinkered with as and when depending on circumstances. Such as for instance bank regulations, drinking water purity, education standards.

There does need to be a safety net for the suddenly unemployed or disabled. It should be a safety net, not a dependency culture however. If it can be established fire private charity (religious or secular is immaterial to me) then thats good... if not it has to be via the state.

Universal health care. Yay!

Taxes should be where possible tied to a specific service that only the Government can or should provide. Failing this the Government has a legal obligation to publish budgets than can be understood by the average person, in the time it takes to read a tabloid newspaper.

Democracy... yay!

Human rights carry obligations, if the obligations are not met your rights are not deserved.

So anyway... I am not a libertarian, not a conservative and I am increasingly told I am not a liberal. What am I?

That sounds pretty darn close to the Classical Liberal government of Smith and J.B. Say.
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6/24/2010 11:15:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Liberal Democrat for sure.

Your criteria do not match theirs exactly but then they don't have any fixed political or moral principles and vary their policies to suit the need at any given time or place, as was demonstrated by that mercenary Quisling, Nick Clegg, at the last General Election.
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6/24/2010 11:27:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:15:03 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
Liberal Democrat for sure.

Your criteria do not match theirs exactly but then they don't have any fixed political or moral principles and vary their policies to suit the need at any given time or place, as was demonstrated by that mercenary Quisling, Nick Clegg, at the last General Election.

Wait... you are saying I don't have fixed principles?

And in any case what else could Nick Clegg do? Lets consider the options.
1: Nothing. And allow there to be political chaos.
2: Prop up Labour, ignoring public opinion in favour of parasites that are destroying this country.
3: Prop up the tories, actually have a chance to rebuild.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/24/2010 11:28:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
PS: Bit confused as to how my place on the chart shows me to be anarcho-commie. Slightly left of centre, mid way between Libertarian and Fascist.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/24/2010 11:32:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

"Anarcho"-Communists generally don't favor the market.

however from what you have just described I would say Economic Liberal and Social Libertarian

"Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market. It opposes government intervention in the free market..." - Wikipedia[1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
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6/24/2010 11:36:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:32:16 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

"Anarcho"-Communists generally don't favor the market.

however from what you have just described I would say Economic Liberal and Social Libertarian

"Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market. It opposes government intervention in the free market..." - Wikipedia[1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...

I don't completely oppose Government intervention, just would like it kept to a minimum.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/24/2010 11:38:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:27:39 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 6/24/2010 11:15:03 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
Liberal Democrat for sure.

Your criteria do not match theirs exactly but then they don't have any fixed political or moral principles and vary their policies to suit the need at any given time or place, as was demonstrated by that mercenary Quisling, Nick Clegg, at the last General Election.

Wait... you are saying I don't have fixed principles?

You do, they don't.

And in any case what else could Nick Clegg do? Lets consider the options.
1: Nothing. And allow there to be political chaos.
2: Prop up Labour, ignoring public opinion in favour of parasites that are destroying this country.
3: Prop up the tories, actually have a chance to rebuild.

Many Lib-Dem voters are more left-wing than Labour voters and that was reflected in the Lib-Dem manifesto. It would have been more appropriate for them to align themselves with Plaid Cymru and the Scottish Nationalists and form a voting bloc to support or oppose a minority Tory government on a Bill-by-Bill basis.
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6/24/2010 11:45:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:32:16 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

"Anarcho"-Communists generally don't favor the market.

however from what you have just described I would say Economic Liberal and Social Libertarian

"Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market. It opposes government intervention in the free market..." - Wikipedia[1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...

Okay you are right I probably didn't do the best job of placing however I meant liberal as in democrat liberal not classical liberalism from what I understand he want to make sure all people are promised the essentials of life and that the government needs to have a certain amount of control over the economy but on the front of society he seems to think that government should stay out
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6/24/2010 11:47:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:38:33 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 6/24/2010 11:27:39 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 6/24/2010 11:15:03 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
Liberal Democrat for sure.

Your criteria do not match theirs exactly but then they don't have any fixed political or moral principles and vary their policies to suit the need at any given time or place, as was demonstrated by that mercenary Quisling, Nick Clegg, at the last General Election.

Wait... you are saying I don't have fixed principles?

You do, they don't.

And in any case what else could Nick Clegg do? Lets consider the options.
1: Nothing. And allow there to be political chaos.
2: Prop up Labour, ignoring public opinion in favour of parasites that are destroying this country.
3: Prop up the tories, actually have a chance to rebuild.

Many Lib-Dem voters are more left-wing than Labour voters and that was reflected in the Lib-Dem manifesto. It would have been more appropriate for them to align themselves with Plaid Cymru and the Scottish Nationalists and form a voting bloc to support or oppose a minority Tory government on a Bill-by-Bill basis.

We have spent years without a valid government, we need a little bit of order and unity now!
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/24/2010 11:53:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 11:36:15 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 6/24/2010 11:32:16 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 6/24/2010 9:52:08 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Looking at your political compass it looks like you favor anarcho-communism

"Anarcho"-Communists generally don't favor the market.

however from what you have just described I would say Economic Liberal and Social Libertarian

"Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market. It opposes government intervention in the free market..." - Wikipedia[1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...

I don't completely oppose Government intervention, just would like it kept to a minimum.

"keeping it to a minimum" is essentially mild opposition (as opposed to, say, abolition.) Quite simply, in the modern sense, yer just another liberal.
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6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.
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6/24/2010 1:11:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.

What happened to Socialism.
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6/24/2010 1:15:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:11:00 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.

What happened to Socialism.

I have since then become more moderate. However, I am still more economically left than most people on this site.
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6/24/2010 1:17:12 PM
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At 6/24/2010 9:35:58 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I support personal liberty and personal responsibility. You are free to do what you want so long as this does not harm the rights of others, you are responsible for your own upkeep and welfare.

The free market is the default, but needs to be tinkered with as and when depending on circumstances. Such as for instance bank regulations, drinking water purity, education standards.

There does need to be a safety net for the suddenly unemployed or disabled. It should be a safety net, not a dependency culture however. If it can be established fire private charity (religious or secular is immaterial to me) then thats good... if not it has to be via the state.

Universal health care. Yay!

Taxes should be where possible tied to a specific service that only the Government can or should provide. Failing this the Government has a legal obligation to publish budgets than can be understood by the average person, in the time it takes to read a tabloid newspaper.

Democracy... yay!

Human rights carry obligations, if the obligations are not met your rights are not deserved.

So anyway... I am not a libertarian, not a conservative and I am increasingly told I am not a liberal. What am I?

Why do you need a label? Identity? It never occurred to me to find an exact label that fits me. I am sort of a collection of labels; I'm just me.
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6/24/2010 1:18:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:15:00 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:11:00 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.

What happened to Socialism.

I have since then become more moderate. However, I am still more economically left than most people on this site.

explain...
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6/24/2010 1:21:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:18:54 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:15:00 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:11:00 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.

What happened to Socialism.

I have since then become more moderate. However, I am still more economically left than most people on this site.

explain...

Well I decided complete socialism(collective ownership) is impossible so I instead support a mixed Market Socialist system, kind of like what many European countries have.
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6/24/2010 1:29:16 PM
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At 6/24/2010 1:21:52 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:18:54 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:15:00 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:11:00 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:07:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'm pretty hard to place too. I tend to be socially conservative(although I have some more liberal views such as supporting gay marriage) while being quite economically liberal.

What happened to Socialism.

I have since then become more moderate. However, I am still more economically left than most people on this site.

explain...

Well I decided complete socialism(collective ownership) is impossible
Read the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.
so I instead support a mixed Market Socialist system, kind of like what many European countries have.

That different, Post War Europe adopted Social welfare 'Socialism' it's not Socialism it's just the market with tax so the poor people can sustain their increasingly welfare dependant lives, same thing applies to the Post Warsaw Pact states. Basically, it's not Socialism.

Like Mongeese said, --> Switzerland, low tax. Guess why?
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM
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Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.
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6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM
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At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.
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6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM
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At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.
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6/24/2010 1:40:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.

I think it's time I defended Authoritarianism. Someone will take over you but we'll see.

INH, what is wrong with Authority?

INH, what is the need for freedom?
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6/24/2010 1:41:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:40:23 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.


I think it's time I defended Authoritarianism. Someone will take over you but we'll see.

INH, what is wrong with Authority?

INH, what is the need for freedom?

You don't need to defend authoritarianism. I'm authoritarian.
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6/24/2010 1:43:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:41:54 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:40:23 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.


I think it's time I defended Authoritarianism. Someone will take over you but we'll see.

INH, what is wrong with Authority?

INH, what is the need for freedom?

You don't need to defend authoritarianism. I'm authoritarian.
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6/24/2010 1:45:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:43:31 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:41:54 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:40:23 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.


I think it's time I defended Authoritarianism. Someone will take over you but we'll see.

INH, what is wrong with Authority?

INH, what is the need for freedom?

You don't need to defend authoritarianism. I'm authoritarian.

I never said that was my problem with communism. I don't mind that it becomes authoritarian. I'm just saying that why most people think it's flawed and doesn't work.
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6/24/2010 1:48:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/24/2010 1:45:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:43:31 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:41:54 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:40:23 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:38:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:36:11 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 6/24/2010 1:32:15 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Lol, I have read Marx. I used to be a communist at one point. I know communism when I see it, and I can say it has never existed. Why? It doesn't work in practice. It's too easily corrupted.

Facepalm. I blame western propaganda.

No, it's not western propaganda. Everytime communism is tried it seems to transform into an authoritarian state. In reality it's supposed to be the opposite, being a stateless anarchistic society.


I think it's time I defended Authoritarianism. Someone will take over you but we'll see.

INH, what is wrong with Authority?

INH, what is the need for freedom?

You don't need to defend authoritarianism. I'm authoritarian.

I never said that was my problem with communism. I don't mind that it becomes authoritarian. I'm just saying that why most people think it's flawed and doesn't work.

Then what is?
'sup DDO -- july 2013