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GeoLaureate8
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7/9/2010 6:39:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I just heard on the radio that the U.S is in debt, and so is the rest of the world. How can the whole world be in debt and in debt to who? Extraterrestrials?

Maybe this is why we have an alien defense system on the moon. (Certain races are working with the government, so I'm not sure which race they are defending against.)
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7/9/2010 6:42:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The whole world is in debt to each other and themselves.

If it doesn't make much sense, then don't worry about it. I don't think anyone can make sense of it. Look at what happened with the collapse of the USSR; one of the most debt-laden countries in the history of the world declared bankruptcy, swore off its debt, and nothing happened. It really is an arbitrary number, this "world debt" we have.
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7/9/2010 6:43:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:42:40 PM, Volkov wrote:
The whole world is in debt to each other and themselves.

If it doesn't make much sense, then don't worry about it. I don't think anyone can make sense of it. Look at what happened with the collapse of the USSR; one of the most debt-laden countries in the history of the world declared bankruptcy, swore off its debt, and nothing happened. It really is an arbitrary number, this "world debt" we have.

Fair enough. So why the alien defense system.
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7/9/2010 6:44:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:43:32 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Fair enough. So why the alien defense system.

I don't even know what you're talking about, but I'll say "Raelians" and leave it at that. Or should I say Reagan?
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7/9/2010 6:49:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:45:46 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Aliens put the world in debt? O.o

No. I just made that up. Though, I do know that there are ET government relations, though probably not economically.
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7/9/2010 6:52:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The whole world is not in debt. Volkov's answer only works by presuming the collectivist mindset that debt within a country is "debt to oneself." But as far as I can tell most or all governments are in debt to private bondholders.

And most or all are in debt to at least some other governments-- the "surplus nations" however,hold more debt from other governments than they owe to other governments, though not usually more than they owe to private citizens ). Some of it "Circles out" so to speak (i.e. party A in debt to party B in debt to party C in debt to party A), but that's typically accounted for on balance sheets and the amounts are different (if it weren't, there would be no "surplus nations" ) There are very real creditors, one simply has to recognize that individuals, not just governments, exist, in order to figure that out.
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7/9/2010 6:53:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:49:48 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:45:46 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Aliens put the world in debt? O.o

No. I just made that up. Though, I do know that there are ET government relations, though probably not economically.

So, wait, are you joking about the whole alien defense base too? I'm confused. o_O
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7/9/2010 6:55:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:53:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:49:48 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No. I just made that up. Though, I do know that there are ET government relations, though probably not economically.

So, wait, are you joking about the whole alien defense base too? I'm confused. o_O

No, just the economic relations. According to the news source, there is an alien defense system (or going to be).
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7/9/2010 6:55:11 PM
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He's not joking. Making stuff up about aliens is srs bsns for conspiranuts.
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7/9/2010 6:55:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:52:47 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
The whole world is not in debt. Volkov's answer only works by presuming the collectivist mindset that debt within a country is "debt to oneself." But as far as I can tell most or all governments are in debt to private bondholders.

My experience with questions over debt are limited to my understanding of the Soviet Union's economy, which was in debt more to itself and other countries than any private bondholders.
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7/9/2010 6:56:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The short answer to all of this is
WE ARE ALL SCREWED
my suggestion stock up on guns and ammo
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7/9/2010 6:57:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:55:28 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:52:47 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
The whole world is not in debt. Volkov's answer only works by presuming the collectivist mindset that debt within a country is "debt to oneself." But as far as I can tell most or all governments are in debt to private bondholders.

My experience with questions over debt are limited to my understanding of the Soviet Union's economy, which was in debt more to itself and other countries than any private bondholders.
As in, one department/council/party cell holding debt to another, or...?

There's some amount of that in the US gov't too, but it isn't usually the "Debt" people put in statistics, since it's simultaneously an asset and so zeroes out.
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7/9/2010 6:58:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:56:20 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The short answer to all of this is
WE ARE ALL SCREWED
my suggestion stock up on guns and ammo

I suspect you're one of the people I wouldn't want handling a firearm.
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7/9/2010 6:59:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:57:56 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
As in, one department/council/party cell holding debt to another, or...?

Essentially, along with the Soviets and the industries. It was a big, self-circulating pile of debt that bankrupted a few regions before Gorbachev came in.

There's some amount of that in the US gov't too, but it isn't usually the "Debt" people put in statistics, since it's simultaneously an asset and so zeroes out.

Ah, OK.
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7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:56:20 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The short answer to all of this is
WE ARE ALL SCREWED
my suggestion stock up on guns and ammo

No need for violence. We have exopolitical diplomats that are attempting to handle the situation.

The second annual European Exopolitical Expo will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...
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7/9/2010 7:01:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:56:20 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The short answer to all of this is
WE ARE ALL SCREWED
my suggestion stock up on guns and ammo

No need for violence. We have exopolitical diplomats that are attempting to handle the situation.

The second annual European Exopolitical Expo will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...

Who is "We" and where can I contact a bunch of minarchist aliens with a request to conquer us and start governing for user fees?
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7/9/2010 7:02:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The second annual European Exopolitics Summit will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...

Edit: European Exopolitics Summit.
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7/9/2010 7:05:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:56:20 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The short answer to all of this is
WE ARE ALL SCREWED
my suggestion stock up on guns and ammo

No need for violence. We have exopolitical diplomats that are attempting to handle the situation.

The second annual European Exopolitical Expo will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...

I would like to have faith in these people but their solution to get the stop the financial meltdown was to give out large amounts of money from the people going bankrupt to the people that caused the collapse. Well were at it how about we give criminals free access to gyms so when they get out they can mug us better.

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7/9/2010 7:06:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 7:02:42 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The second annual European Exopolitics Summit will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...

Edit: European Exopolitics Summit.

Who's willing to put up money and get Brian Eggleston to become the next Expolitical Minister for Great Britain at this "Summit"?
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7/12/2010 4:09:30 AM
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The WHOLE world is not in debt, much of the Western world is in debt and most of that debt to those countries that now provide the consumer goods and even essentials of life that so much of the West now depend on.
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7/12/2010 7:27:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:39:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I just heard on the radio that the U.S is in debt, and so is the rest of the world. How can the whole world be in debt and in debt to who? Extraterrestrials?


Hilarious.

Maybe this is why we have an alien defense system on the moon. (Certain races are working with the government, so I'm not sure which race they are defending against.)


Wait... are you actually being serious?
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7/12/2010 7:29:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:55:11 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
He's not joking. Making stuff up about aliens is srs bsns for conspiranuts.

Wow... never do that again it gives me a headache.
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7/12/2010 4:05:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:39:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

Maybe this is why we have an alien defense system on the moon. (Certain races are working with the government, so I'm not sure which race they are defending against.)




Not sure if you're aware geo, but the vid you posted seems to be suggesting that the government itself is behind the majority of alien conspiracy theories and ufo sitings, and is trying to manipulate the public to fear aliens as the next threat to their lives (after communism and terrorism), so that they can be manipulated into accepting the New World Order.

Too many conspiracies spoil the broth. Beware the dissemination of disinformation lol.
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7/12/2010 5:56:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/12/2010 4:09:30 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
The WHOLE world is not in debt, much of the Western world is in debt and most of that debt to those countries that now provide the consumer goods and even essentials of life that so much of the West now depend on.

Wrong. http://us.asiancorrespondent.com...
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7/12/2010 6:03:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 7:06:46 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 7/9/2010 7:02:42 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:59:59 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The second annual European Exopolitics Summit will be held in October 2010 where there will be several representatives from different countries who deal with exopolitical relations.

http://www.exopoliticseurope.com...

Edit: European Exopolitics Summit.

Who's willing to put up money and get Brian Eggleston to become the next Expolitical Minister for Great Britain at this "Summit"?

How much? :)
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7/12/2010 6:06:50 PM
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At 7/12/2010 4:05:06 PM, feverish wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:39:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

Maybe this is why we have an alien defense system on the moon. (Certain races are working with the government, so I'm not sure which race they are defending against.)
Not sure if you're aware geo, but the vid you posted seems to be suggesting that the government itself is behind the majority of alien conspiracy

I know. I already acknowledged that.
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