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GeoLaureate8
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7/14/2010 4:07:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Leo Lyon Zagami, the Grand Master of the Ordo illuminatorum Universalis, interviews Freemason and Gnostic Templar, Sir Ian Sinclair.

Here is Zagami in his Illuminati attire: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...

Here is the Sinclair in his Gnostic Temple: http://www.gnostictemplars.org...

These guys are the real deal.
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7/14/2010 4:27:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Awesome stuff. I'm going to do my inaugural performance for the Australian Society of Magicians next month, then I become a full member.
Secret societies are awesome. ^_-
BTW: Where can I get one of those red robes?
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7/14/2010 4:56:47 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/14/2010 4:07:50 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
These guys are the real deal.

Yeah, Zagami doesn't seem to be a giant attention-seeking prat at all.
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7/14/2010 7:48:05 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
These guys are the real deal.:

In what way? Are you a PCT?
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7/14/2010 9:42:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/14/2010 7:48:05 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
These guys are the real deal.:

In what way? Are you a PCT?

I love how people deny the existence of the Illuminati when they're slapped in the face with photographic and video proof.
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7/15/2010 10:33:20 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
So some men meet up, wear funny robes, circle jerk, raise money for charity and pretend to be wizards. So what?
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7/15/2010 12:31:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I love how people deny the existence of the Illuminati when they're slapped in the face with photographic and video proof.:

You constitute a photograph as proof?

Plead your case and I will consider it. Because I sometimes wonder why no one has contemplated that the "Illuminati" is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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7/16/2010 11:59:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I used to be dubious of the idea that giant shapeshifting blood drinking lizards ruled the world. But then I saw a badly photoshopped picture of an italian wizard in a nifty red robe, now I am utterly convinced.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/16/2010 4:55:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 11:59:28 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I used to be dubious of the idea that giant shapeshifting blood drinking lizards ruled the world. But then I saw a badly photoshopped picture of an italian wizard in a nifty red robe, now I am utterly convinced.

I like how you conveniently ignored the other photo that wasn't photoshopped.

Here's more real photos of Leo Zagami as well as documented proof of his Illuminati allegiances.

Illuminati medallions that he possesses: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

(From his Facebook, they're really his.)

Proof of membership: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

In the photos above, it shows that he is a member of the Monte Carl P2 Lodge, which was created by Illuminati member, Licio Gelli. (http://www.illuminati-news.com...)

Documents proving his membership:
http://www.leozagami.com...
http://www.leozagami.com...
http://www.leozagami.com...

Masonic swords: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...

Various photos:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...
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7/16/2010 4:55:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/15/2010 3:55:15 AM, Puck wrote:
Boys club =/= world conspiracy.

So you admit that the Illuminati exists?
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7/16/2010 5:00:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I have a confession to make....I am a lizard.

I have been slowly corrupting and conforming this website to my will.
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7/16/2010 11:34:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 4:55:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/16/2010 11:59:28 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I used to be dubious of the idea that giant shapeshifting blood drinking lizards ruled the world. But then I saw a badly photoshopped picture of an italian wizard in a nifty red robe, now I am utterly convinced.

I like how you conveniently ignored the other photo that wasn't photoshopped.

Here's more real photos of Leo Zagami as well as documented proof of his Illuminati allegiances.

Illuminati medallions that he possesses: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

(From his Facebook, they're really his.)

Proof of membership: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

In the photos above, it shows that he is a member of the Monte Carl P2 Lodge, which was created by Illuminati member, Licio Gelli. (http://www.illuminati-news.com...)

Documents proving his membership:
http://www.leozagami.com...
http://www.leozagami.com...
http://www.leozagami.com...


Masonic swords: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...


Various photos:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net...

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net...

You have no regard for evidential standards. So what if he has real pictures of himself or silly medallions and magic swords? What really does that prove?
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/17/2010 5:22:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 4:55:39 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/15/2010 3:55:15 AM, Puck wrote:
Boys club =/= world conspiracy.

So you admit that the Illuminati exists?

No I recognise that men who like to dress in robes exist. No homo.
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7/18/2010 12:33:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 11:34:55 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
You have no regard for evidential standards.

You say that the Illuminati doesn't exist. I provide video, photographic, and documented proof that the Illuminati exists.

So what if he has real pictures of himself or silly medallions and magic swords? What really does that prove?

First of all, raising the goalpost fallacy. Second of all, you conveniently ignored the 3 signed documents that proved his allegiance to the Illuminati.

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7/18/2010 12:49:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 5:00:08 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I have a confession to make....I am a lizard.

I have been slowly corrupting and conforming this website to my will.

you'd wanna speed up before we're all dead.
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7/20/2010 7:50:40 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I like how you conveniently ignored the other photo that wasn't photoshopped.

Here's more real photos of Leo Zagami as well as documented proof of his Illuminati allegiances.:

Okay, what secret, esoteric organization takes gay-poses in a robe and then admits to being in the secret, esoteric organization that is not supposed to exist??? Think deeply about that. If Leo defected from supposedly the world's most cunning and strongest organization of all time, why wasn't he immediately assassinated?

This is like what 14-year olds or middle-aged paranoid schizophrenics who live in their mom's basement believe in. This is pure nonsense.

(From his Facebook, they're really his.):

LOL!..... *sigh*
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7/20/2010 8:51:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/20/2010 7:50:40 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Okay, what secret, esoteric organization takes gay-poses in a robe and then admits to being in the secret, esoteric organization that is not supposed to exist??? Think deeply about that.

Your question proves nothing.

If Leo defected from supposedly the world's most cunning and strongest organization of all time, why wasn't he immediately assassinated?

Wow. Really? I've heard that response a million times for 5 years and it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why the hell would the Illuminati draw attention to itself by making a martyr out of an Illuminati defector. Not to mention, from a female Illuminist source, the Illuminati is counting on the people to not believe the defectors.

This is like what 14-year olds or middle-aged paranoid schizophrenics who live in their mom's basement believe in. This is pure nonsense.

Yeah, ok. That's why this guy has proof that he is a member of a Grand Lodge. He has pictures of himself with high ranking officials of the Turkish government and high ranking members of other secret societies.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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-- Frederic Bastiat
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7/21/2010 1:52:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 12:33:38 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/16/2010 11:34:55 PM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
You have no regard for evidential standards.

You say that the Illuminati doesn't exist. I provide video, photographic, and documented proof that the Illuminati exists.

So what if he has real pictures of himself or silly medallions and magic swords? What really does that prove?

First of all, raising the goalpost fallacy. Second of all, you conveniently ignored the 3 signed documents that proved his allegiance to the Illuminati.


.

You are more intelligent than this. What is the actual physical evidence for the Illuminati, swords regalia and nebolous references to 'documents' don't cut it.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/21/2010 1:55:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/20/2010 8:51:20 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:


Yeah, ok. That's why this guy has proof that he is a member of a Grand Lodge. He has pictures of himself with high ranking officials of the Turkish government and high ranking members of other secret societies.

So he is really well connected in the vast quagmire of politics... that does not prove that there is such a thing as a single esoteric society that controls everything or that wizards are real or that we are ruled by lizards or aliens or any other bs.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/21/2010 3:04:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
If you lot want to get tense about something then check out the Bilderberg Group, who its members are, and the events that follow each meeting and how they are so coordinated across different countries.
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7/21/2010 5:16:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/20/2010 8:51:20 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 7/20/2010 7:50:40 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Okay, what secret, esoteric organization takes gay-poses in a robe and then admits to being in the secret, esoteric organization that is not supposed to exist??? Think deeply about that.

Your question proves nothing.:

You can start by answering the question. That would be useful.

If Leo defected from supposedly the world's most cunning and strongest organization of all time, why wasn't he immediately assassinated?

Wow. Really? I've heard that response a million times for 5 years and it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why the hell would the Illuminati draw attention to itself by making a martyr out of an Illuminati defector. Not to mention, from a female Illuminist source, the Illuminati is counting on the people to not believe the defectors.:

Then being critical of the Illuminati should not worry anyone ever, because they won't blow their cover. Funny thing is it doesn't stop Mossad from wacking people, even if they are strongly suspected. Proof and suspicion are two entirely different things.

This is like what 14-year olds or middle-aged paranoid schizophrenics who live in their mom's basement believe in. This is pure nonsense.

Yeah, ok. That's why this guy has proof that he is a member of a Grand Lodge. He has pictures of himself with high ranking officials of the Turkish government and high ranking members of other secret societies.:

Let's do this... First prove that the Illuminati exists and we'll go from there. Or at the very least, explain why you suspect they exist.
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