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Is ISIS even real?

Wylted
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3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?
Diqiucun_Cunmin
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3/9/2015 8:38:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

Just because one single footage is faked doesn't mean the entire terrorist organisation is faked...

Also, Daily Mail...
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3/9/2015 8:44:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:38:14 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

Just because one single footage is faked doesn't mean the entire terrorist organisation is faked...

Also, Daily Mail...

Then why not use real footage instead of the CIA faking the footage?
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3/9/2015 8:47:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:44:48 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 3/9/2015 8:38:14 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

Just because one single footage is faked doesn't mean the entire terrorist organisation is faked...

Also, Daily Mail...

Then why not use real footage instead of the CIA faking the footage?

Maybe to incite fear in Christians, for propaganda, so a larger-scale war will have more public support, or whatever - I don't know what the US government is thinking, so obviously I don't know the motive. Whatever the reason, jumping to the conclusion that the entire ISIS was faked because of one single footage is way too hasty.
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3/9/2015 9:01:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

We have a lot of sources for information proving that ISIS and large scale violent Islamic groups are very real. Even your link says only parts of the video is fake and that people were killed, imagery was simply changed or added.

Like the weather man is real and giving real information but is standing in front of a green screen where they can add images behind him.
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3/9/2015 9:17:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 9:01:34 AM, Times wrote:
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

We have a lot of sources for information proving that ISIS and large scale violent Islamic groups are very real. Even your link says only parts of the video is fake and that people were killed, imagery was simply changed or added.

Like the weather man is real and giving real information but is standing in front of a green screen where they can add images behind him.

Not the weather channel I listen to. Their forecasts seem to be an approximation and never actually accurate, but I could pull approximations out of my butt, weather people are fake and have no skill.
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3/9/2015 10:25:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 9:17:32 AM, Wylted wrote:
Not the weather channel I listen to. Their forecasts seem to be an approximation and never actually accurate, but I could pull approximations out of my butt, weather people are fake and have no skill.

You dodged the point being made.

The green screen does not change the fact that it is a real weather man.

Added imagery by the terrorists or anyone else does not change the fact that people were murdered. The dead bodies are real. We have many, many sources all telling us of radical Islam groups doing all sorts of bad things.

Do you think there is a massive, global conspiracy to fake terrorist acts?
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3/9/2015 10:32:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:25:52 AM, Times wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:17:32 AM, Wylted wrote:
Not the weather channel I listen to. Their forecasts seem to be an approximation and never actually accurate, but I could pull approximations out of my butt, weather people are fake and have no skill.


You dodged the point being made.

The green screen does not change the fact that it is a real weather man.

Added imagery by the terrorists or anyone else does not change the fact that people were murdered. The dead bodies are real. We have many, many sources all telling us of radical Islam groups doing all sorts of bad things.


Do you think there is a massive, global conspiracy to fake terrorist acts?

Yes, it is. Remember how 9/11 was proven fake by the documentary Loose Change. I live close enough to New York, I could probably drive there right now and see the towers still standing.
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3/9/2015 10:54:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:32:38 AM, Wylted wrote:
Yes, it is. Remember how 9/11 was proven fake by the documentary Loose Change. I live close enough to New York, I could probably drive there right now and see the towers still standing.

I'm sorry, I am new here and did not know you were one of those conspiracy theory over reality people, lol.

Please ignore my comments, they were intended for someone willing to stay in the real world.

Have a good day.
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3/9/2015 11:10:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:54:07 AM, Times wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:32:38 AM, Wylted wrote:
Yes, it is. Remember how 9/11 was proven fake by the documentary Loose Change. I live close enough to New York, I could probably drive there right now and see the towers still standing.

I'm sorry, I am new here and did not know you were one of those conspiracy theory over reality people, lol.

Please ignore my comments, they were intended for someone willing to stay in the real world.


Have a good day.

God bless you
v3nesl
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3/9/2015 11:27:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

Well, I have a fairly close friend who emigrated from Iraq when he was 13. And all his family and friends are dead.

So yeah, there's something real going on over there, and like Hitler's exploits, it's largely being ignored.
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3/9/2015 12:23:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

Calling the video "this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS" is not even close to being accurate-- it is not the only evidence by a long shot.

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

It exists, and you make a very unfortunate comparison by framing your question this way.

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

They are the videos that ISIS provided the mainstream media. You do realize that ISIS is just as capable of making propaganda videos as anyone, right? Plus they are highly motivated to make such videos.

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?

I haven't seen the footage and can easily admit that it could very well be staged. That does not mean that ISIS does not exist.

Here's a simple analogy: the movie "Fury" was completely staged. That does not mean that World War II tank crews and battles did not exist.
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3/9/2015 2:51:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 8:17:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
It looks like footage of ISIS has been faked. The following story shows how this one piece of evidence for the existence of ISIS has been completely fabricated. http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

So my questions are as follows.

1. Does ISIS exist or is it fake like the moon landing?

2. If they are real why is the mainstream media presenting us with faked videos instead of real videos?

3. If the footage is real, why are they so tall?
I was aroused beyond belief at the title but the sound of "fake moon landing" is so unappealing :/