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3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.
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3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?
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3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.
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3/28/2015 5:23:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

So let me get this straight...her case went into trial, then was overturned, then the overturning was overturned, then that decision was upheld, then that decision was reversed? Thank God our system prohibits double jeopardy, jeez.
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3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.
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3/28/2015 5:31:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:23:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

So let me get this straight...her case went into trial, then was overturned, then the overturning was overturned, then that decision was upheld, then that decision was reversed? Thank God our system prohibits double jeopardy, jeez.

Yeah, Italian justice is weird. In the US, appellate courts can't re-review all the facts like that. But also in the US, her conviction would have been overturned years ago due to the coerced confession. The police made her go basically 48 hours without sleep. The cases in the US say that's a coerced confession.
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3/28/2015 5:32:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:31:01 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:23:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

So let me get this straight...her case went into trial, then was overturned, then the overturning was overturned, then that decision was upheld, then that decision was reversed? Thank God our system prohibits double jeopardy, jeez.

Yeah, Italian justice is weird. In the US, appellate courts can't re-review all the facts like that. But also in the US, her conviction would have been overturned years ago due to the coerced confession. The police made her go basically 48 hours without sleep. The cases in the US say that's a coerced confession.

Basically a involuntary confession.
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3/28/2015 5:34:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.

Amanda Knox is an American. Her ex-boyfriend is Italian. Meredith Kercher (the victim) was from the UK. Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were in Italy as part of a foreign exchange program. The murder happened in Italy which is why the Italian courts are involved.
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3/28/2015 5:38:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:34:52 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.

Amanda Knox is an American. Her ex-boyfriend is Italian. Meredith Kercher (the victim) was from the UK. Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were in Italy as part of a foreign exchange program. The murder happened in Italy which is why the Italian courts are involved.

Oh gee, I got my cases mixed up. I'm thinking of a lady who killed her child.
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3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?
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3/28/2015 5:41:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:38:39 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:34:52 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.

Amanda Knox is an American. Her ex-boyfriend is Italian. Meredith Kercher (the victim) was from the UK. Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were in Italy as part of a foreign exchange program. The murder happened in Italy which is why the Italian courts are involved.

Oh gee, I got my cases mixed up. I'm thinking of a lady who killed her child.

Casey Anthony. She was guilty as sin. This is really scary: the police investigators thought that her search engine was Yahoo, so they only checked her Yahoo search history and just found one vague search for chloroform. It turns out that she mostly used Google (like a normal person) and ran a search for "fool-proof suffocation," but the jury never heard that because the police never found that until after her acquittal.
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3/28/2015 5:42:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:41:46 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:38:39 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:34:52 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.

Amanda Knox is an American. Her ex-boyfriend is Italian. Meredith Kercher (the victim) was from the UK. Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were in Italy as part of a foreign exchange program. The murder happened in Italy which is why the Italian courts are involved.

Oh gee, I got my cases mixed up. I'm thinking of a lady who killed her child.

Casey Anthony. She was guilty as sin. This is really scary: the police investigators thought that her search engine was Yahoo, so they only checked her Yahoo search history and just found one vague search for chloroform. It turns out that she mostly used Google (like a normal person) and ran a search for "fool-proof suffocation," but the jury never heard that because the police never found that until after her acquittal.

Wow..
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3/28/2015 5:43:40 PM
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At 3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?

There's no way she was guilty. No logical motive. And another suspect in custody whose DNA was found all over the victim and whose motive was burglary and/or rape.
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3/28/2015 5:46:48 PM
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At 3/28/2015 5:41:46 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:38:39 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:34:52 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:28:29 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:18:18 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:14:37 PM, Lee001 wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

Wasn't this made known like 3 years ago?

She was acquitted by an intermediate court of appeals a few years ago. But then another intermediate court overturned her acquittal, and it went to the Italian supreme court. If they found her guilty, Italy would have asked to have her extradited back to Italy, and the State Department would have had to decide whether to comply. That's a problem because in the United States, an acquittal on the underlying facts isn't appealable due to Double Jeapardy, and we're not supposed to extradite someone to a country when their justice system doesn't comply with our constitutional protections.

But yeah, the Italian supreme court only just handed down their verdict yesterday I believe.

Oh okay I see.

I don't understand though as to why it would be overturned to Italy since she's not originally from there. She only went there because she moved there with her boyfriend. So I don't understand as to why they are involved.

Amanda Knox is an American. Her ex-boyfriend is Italian. Meredith Kercher (the victim) was from the UK. Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were in Italy as part of a foreign exchange program. The murder happened in Italy which is why the Italian courts are involved.

Oh gee, I got my cases mixed up. I'm thinking of a lady who killed her child.

Casey Anthony. She was guilty as sin. This is really scary: the police investigators thought that her search engine was Yahoo, so they only checked her Yahoo search history and just found one vague search for chloroform. It turns out that she mostly used Google (like a normal person) and ran a search for "fool-proof suffocation," but the jury never heard that because the police never found that until after her acquittal.

That is the reason I don't understand Florida. Those idiots seemed to cave to media attention and brought charges too soon. They should have just completely investigated that, and took their time bringing charges.

The same thing happened with George Zimmerman. It was obvious from the get go, that he would be acquitted, but they still rushed and brought charges. Sometimes it is better to wait indefinitely than to rush to charge somebody who is almost assuredly going to not be found guilty.
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3/28/2015 5:52:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/28/2015 5:43:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?

There's no way she was guilty. No logical motive. And another suspect in custody whose DNA was found all over the victim and whose motive was burglary and/or rape.

Oh wait, I think I'm mixing up Amanda Knox with someone else...
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3/28/2015 5:53:09 PM
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At 3/28/2015 5:52:39 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:43:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?

There's no way she was guilty. No logical motive. And another suspect in custody whose DNA was found all over the victim and whose motive was burglary and/or rape.

Oh wait, I think I'm mixing up Amanda Knox with someone else...

Casey Anthony again?
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3/28/2015 5:56:48 PM
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At 3/28/2015 5:53:09 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:52:39 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:43:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?

There's no way she was guilty. No logical motive. And another suspect in custody whose DNA was found all over the victim and whose motive was burglary and/or rape.

Oh wait, I think I'm mixing up Amanda Knox with someone else...

Casey Anthony again?

YES. that one.
is this a common mistake?
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3/28/2015 5:59:48 PM
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At 3/28/2015 5:56:48 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:53:09 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:52:39 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:43:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/28/2015 5:39:40 PM, Genghis_Khan wrote:
At 3/28/2015 4:00:51 PM, bluesteel wrote:
by Italy's highest court, avoiding a political contentious extradition issue.

Justice is finally served.

You don't think she was guilty?

There's no way she was guilty. No logical motive. And another suspect in custody whose DNA was found all over the victim and whose motive was burglary and/or rape.

Oh wait, I think I'm mixing up Amanda Knox with someone else...

Casey Anthony again?

YES. that one.
is this a common mistake?

To me yes, they look alike.
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"But I jest and digress (sick rhymes, yo); every boob is equal in the eyes of the Lord."- SolonKR

"Oh Hey, Seeing Artichokes Makes Me Want to Have Sex."- SolonKR

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3/30/2015 8:33:28 PM
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I was kind of surprised by this, given this is the same country that prosecuted scientists for not predicting an earthquake.
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3/31/2015 8:13:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
We can assume that while Amanda was in prison the Italians made a secret deal with her that she could get a new trial and go home if she will not write a book about her ordeal and then go on TV talk shows to promote the book.
She got a not guilty verdict and she went home.
After this they let her alone. But after a few months, she failed to make good on her promise and announced she had wrote a book and would be on TV. When this happened the Italians took back the acquittal. she had received.
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3/31/2015 8:28:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The case of Casey Anthony is quite different than the story of Foxy Knoxy and the sex game gone wrong.
They proved that another man killed the victim while Ms. Knox was not there.
In Casey's case there was no proof that Ms. Anthony did not kill her daughter nor that anyone else did.
Amanda Knox has a personality that is the opposite of Casey's.