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The Role of Government

kasmic
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4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.
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4/22/2015 9:39:53 PM
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At 4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM, kasmic wrote:
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.

The role of government should only be common force to protect individual negative rights.

A person must be able to protect their life, property, and liberty, even by force. Common force of government should only be an extension of what can do individuals. A person can not seize property from other and transfer that property to a third party, yet many people want a government to do this. Governments became the weapon of greed. Instead of checking crime, government is guilty of the crimes it is supposed to punish.

For any real debate on the role of government Bastiat's "The Law" ( fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf ) should be a source document.
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4/25/2015 4:05:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM, kasmic wrote:
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.

From a utilitarian standpoint, government is meant to satisfy as many people as possible.
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4/25/2015 4:06:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/22/2015 9:39:53 PM, Chang29 wrote:
At 4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM, kasmic wrote:
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.

The role of government should only be common force to protect individual negative rights.

A person must be able to protect their life, property, and liberty, even by force. Common force of government should only be an extension of what can do individuals. A person can not seize property from other and transfer that property to a third party, yet many people want a government to do this. Governments became the weapon of greed. Instead of checking crime, government is guilty of the crimes it is supposed to punish.

For any real debate on the role of government Bastiat's "The Law" ( fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf ) should be a source document.

What objectively defines "property"?
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4/25/2015 8:31:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 4:06:22 PM, debate_power wrote:
At 4/22/2015 9:39:53 PM, Chang29 wrote:
At 4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM, kasmic wrote:
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.

The role of government should only be common force to protect individual negative rights.

A person must be able to protect their life, property, and liberty, even by force. Common force of government should only be an extension of what can do individuals. A person can not seize property from other and transfer that property to a third party, yet many people want a government to do this. Governments became the weapon of greed. Instead of checking crime, government is guilty of the crimes it is supposed to punish.

For any real debate on the role of government Bastiat's "The Law" ( fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf ) should be a source document.

What objectively defines "property"?

Property starts with a person's physical body with a extension from that point. Ownership of land and goods can be acquired only by means of a voluntary transfer. For land or goods without an owner, ownership is comes by transforming the unclaimed land or good.
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4/25/2015 8:56:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 4:05:43 PM, debate_power wrote:
At 4/22/2015 3:00:52 PM, kasmic wrote:
I want to do a debate on this in the future, before I do that I am interesting in hearing what people think in regards to the proper role of government in society.

From a utilitarian standpoint, government is meant to satisfy as many people as possible.

From a utilitarian standpoint:
What is the source of government legitimacy to satisfy?

What should the 49% unsatisfied do?
A free market anti-capitalist

If it can be de-centralized, it will be de-centralized.