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5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM
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This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?
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5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM
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At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

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5/27/2015 9:06:59 PM
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At 5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

#done

You think he's got it? Another Bush-Clinton election, huh?
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5/27/2015 9:07:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 9:06:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

#done

You think he's got it? Another Bush-Clinton election, huh?

Good times, man.
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5/27/2015 9:12:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 9:07:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:06:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

#done

You think he's got it? Another Bush-Clinton election, huh?

Good times, man.



Is Bush also who you would like to win?
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: thett was right
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5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM
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I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio
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5/27/2015 9:13:44 PM
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At 5/27/2015 9:12:51 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:07:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:06:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

#done

You think he's got it? Another Bush-Clinton election, huh?

Good times, man.



Is Bush also who you would like to win?

bahahaha

No.

Bernie Sanders is who I would like to win, but I'm happy with Hillary, too.
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5/27/2015 9:15:51 PM
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At 5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio

Scott Walker will crumble on the national stage. The amount of money that Marco Rubio made off of government-teet contracts will make for brilliant attack ads that will make mainline and base conservatives resent him.

Bush, in all reality, is the most reasonable nomination. He's very intelligent, very good with crowds, and more sympathetic than any other Republican in the field. Who is going to be interesting to watch, though, is Rand Paul...

That guy has a political future.
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5/27/2015 9:25:41 PM
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At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

None of the "front-running" candidates have any real chance of winning, so the best hope for the Republicans is if someone comes out of left field like Christie did initially (though of course, his Tammany Hall tactics were his own undoing).

Neither Rubio nor Walker are capable of running a successful campaign, Rand Paul is insane, and Jeb Bush has too many skeletons in his closet. He, like Christie, does well where he is, but will not do well once a spotlight is shone upon him (Few remember NOW that he was the one who stuck his nose in the Schiavo case unconstitutionally, but to be sure, his willingness to do that for the comparatively small things will only be magnified during an election).

I'm optimistic, though, that someone will shake out before the primaries to at least make things interesting. We're still a long ways from the Iowa caucuses.
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5/27/2015 10:12:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/27/2015 9:13:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:12:51 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:07:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:06:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:05:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Jeb Bush.

#done

You think he's got it? Another Bush-Clinton election, huh?

Good times, man.



Is Bush also who you would like to win?

bahahaha

No.

Bernie Sanders is who I would like to win, but I'm happy with Hillary, too.

lol

Bernie Sanders wouldn't pass any basic high school economics course.
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5/27/2015 10:17:15 PM
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Realistically, Rubio and Bush are the most electable, and Walker is up there. People seem really quick to discount a guy who got 50% of the vote in a three-way race between an fairly popular Republican-turned-independent and a standard Democrat (Rubio) and someone who won three straight elections in a blue-leaning swing state, two of which (2012 recall and 2014) were Democrat pickup targets. If that's logic, I'd like to see the logic behind arguing Hillary Clinton is a great candidate, given she ran five points between Al Gore (eight points behind if you count Nader as part of a left-leaning group) in 2000 and couldn't beat a random one-term Senator in 2008. Rubio in particular has a far more appealing personal story than Clinton, and can also speak Spanish fluently. That's a big deal.
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5/27/2015 10:32:31 PM
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The idea anyone with a basic knowledge of any type of economics would support Bernie Sanders is just insane. The guy is floating a 90% tax when a 75% tax was enough to cause millionaires to leave France. He's not only arguing that having lots of brands of deodorant or shoes is bad (which is wrong by any objective measure), but that it is literally causing kids to starve. 1 trillion on infrastructure spending, free college, $15 minimum wage, EXPANDED social security, paid sick leave, and free pre k. Where does this this money come from? All those rich people, who would probably leave to Canada.
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5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM
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Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.
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5/28/2015 1:19:27 AM
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At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

I don't dispute the primary, but do you really think he has any real chance in the general?
I see him as Kerry-esque (for different reasons and obviously different states).
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5/28/2015 7:18:16 AM
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I think Rubio and John Kasich could win generals on a ticket together. Rubio could help attract the Latino vote and Kasich would help win Ohio.
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5/28/2015 8:31:36 AM
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At 5/27/2015 8:55:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination? Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Who do I think would win. Jeb Bush.
Who do I think would win whose already declared? Ted Cruz.
Who would I want to win? Rand Paul.
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5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM
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At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.
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5/28/2015 10:46:48 AM
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I'd say only Bush or Rand Paul could win the nomination.
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5/28/2015 11:24:57 AM
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I would vote for Rand Paul in a minute, but I feel that he currently has very little, if any chance. He is simply too outspoken and too much of a maverick. Thus, he makes a lot of enemies, just like his Dad did. He is basically a Libertarian at heart, but since we are still mired in the Two Party System, I believe it will be at least a dozen years or so till a Libertarian has a real shot at being POTUS.

That said, for the GOP candidates now, my man is Marco Rubio from Florida.

I surely hope he gets the GOP nod, as I believe he has the best chance to beat Hillary for the POTUS election next November.

Why? Because he is not too conservative; he is a moderate. A "compassionate conservative" as they say, and this type of guy will be better suited to snag some votes from Independents and moderate women voters, who may very well make the difference in the election. These people who could easily take a chance on Hillary if the GOP tosses up some right-winger guy like Jeb or Mitt, or heaven forbid, Rick Perry of Texas.

Rubio of course can also garner minority votes, which the GOP sorely needs.

So, even if he wasn't my guy, I would still think that Rubio is the best chance for the GOP to get the White House back after eight years of Socialist rule. LOL
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5/28/2015 5:41:27 PM
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At 5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio

I agree thett. They seem to be the strongest contenders at the moment, but it is still pretty early. At this point in 2011 I think Michelle Bachmann was ahead...

Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are my top picks, but I am really anxious for what kind of foreign policy a Republican president would pursue (excluding Rand Paul). Going with full-out war against ISIL makes me pretty nervous, for many different reasons.

And Bernie Sanders has a message that appeals to many Americans today, a fair amount of whom may not agree with his solutions but nonetheless are concerned about the same problems.
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5/28/2015 6:02:49 PM
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At 5/28/2015 5:41:27 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio

I agree thett. They seem to be the strongest contenders at the moment, but it is still pretty early. At this point in 2011 I think Michelle Bachmann was ahead...

Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are my top picks, but I am really anxious for what kind of foreign policy a Republican president would pursue (excluding Rand Paul). Going with full-out war against ISIL makes me pretty nervous, for many different reasons.

I mean. I'm pretty sure it would be just another "War on Terror" campaign and we'd just head back to Iraq and probably invade Syria and maybe Iran while we're there.

And Bernie Sanders has a message that appeals to many Americans today, a fair amount of whom may not agree with his solutions but nonetheless are concerned about the same problems.
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5/28/2015 8:02:48 PM
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At 5/28/2015 6:02:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/28/2015 5:41:27 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio

I agree thett. They seem to be the strongest contenders at the moment, but it is still pretty early. At this point in 2011 I think Michelle Bachmann was ahead...

Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are my top picks, but I am really anxious for what kind of foreign policy a Republican president would pursue (excluding Rand Paul). Going with full-out war against ISIL makes me pretty nervous, for many different reasons.

I mean. I'm pretty sure it would be just another "War on Terror" campaign and we'd just head back to Iraq and probably invade Syria and maybe Iran while we're there.

Yeah, and that seems like an awful idea to me. It makes me shudder.

And Bernie Sanders has a message that appeals to many Americans today, a fair amount of whom may not agree with his solutions but nonetheless are concerned about the same problems.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

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5/28/2015 8:22:19 PM
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At 5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.

Poll results are here today, and gone tomorrow, and there is no way that a poll reflecting today's leader is indicative of what will happen next November.

You've got to think about this in terms of the long run: who is most likely to be most successful over the long run. Ok, the issue then becomes what it takes to be successful. It takes money, connections, a good personality and sheer resilience to make it through. Look at who has the most money now; who has the most connections; who has the least offensive personality (in terms of both who can win the primary and the general); and who best knows how to play the game? Obviously, Jeb Bush.

The curve ball here is the Koch brother, and who they will give all their donations to. They could turn the outcome of -at least- the primary, and my guess is they will not pick Jeb Bush. They could, but it's less probable. It's more likely they're going to go for Ted Cruz --because he is willing to get down on his knees for them-- whereas Bush would not, ever, lower himself to that. The closer we get to the election, though, the more clear it's going to be. It's going to come down to Cruz (read: puppet of the Koch brothers) and Bush (the GOP's ideal "everyman"), and Bush will win.
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5/28/2015 8:37:42 PM
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At 5/28/2015 8:22:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.

Poll results are here today, and gone tomorrow, and there is no way that a poll reflecting today's leader is indicative of what will happen next November.

But polls are the only thing indicating your candidate has any sort of lead, and they have been fairly consistent in Rubio's electability since he joined the race.

You've got to think about this in terms of the long run: who is most likely to be most successful over the long run. Ok, the issue then becomes what it takes to be successful. It takes money, connections, a good personality and sheer resilience to make it through. Look at who has the most money now; who has the most connections; who has the least offensive personality (in terms of both who can win the primary and the general); and who best knows how to play the game? Obviously, Jeb Bush.

The curve ball here is the Koch brother, and who they will give all their donations to. They could turn the outcome of -at least- the primary, and my guess is they will not pick Jeb Bush. They could, but it's less probable. It's more likely they're going to go for Ted Cruz --because he is willing to get down on his knees for them-- whereas Bush would not, ever, lower himself to that. The closer we get to the election, though, the more clear it's going to be. It's going to come down to Cruz (read: puppet of the Koch brothers) and Bush (the GOP's ideal "everyman"), and Bush will win.

Cruz isn't going to go far, it would be a waste to funnel money to him. We can't get any good idea as to who will advance until the field whittles down - there will not be 10 candidates fighting. There will maybe be four or five serious ones left. Also, I think you underestimate Rubio's clout among establishment Republicans. He's on good terms with them and the Tea Party and that's a big advantage nobody else has.
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5/28/2015 8:56:39 PM
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At 5/28/2015 8:37:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/28/2015 8:22:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.

Poll results are here today, and gone tomorrow, and there is no way that a poll reflecting today's leader is indicative of what will happen next November.

But polls are the only thing indicating your candidate has any sort of lead, and they have been fairly consistent in Rubio's electability since he joined the race.

It's not just the polls. I mean, the polls are nice and all... but they don't really mean anything in regard to the ultimate issue.

What matters is what happens when people actually go vote.

You've got to think about this in terms of the long run: who is most likely to be most successful over the long run. Ok, the issue then becomes what it takes to be successful. It takes money, connections, a good personality and sheer resilience to make it through. Look at who has the most money now; who has the most connections; who has the least offensive personality (in terms of both who can win the primary and the general); and who best knows how to play the game? Obviously, Jeb Bush.

The curve ball here is the Koch brother, and who they will give all their donations to. They could turn the outcome of -at least- the primary, and my guess is they will not pick Jeb Bush. They could, but it's less probable. It's more likely they're going to go for Ted Cruz --because he is willing to get down on his knees for them-- whereas Bush would not, ever, lower himself to that. The closer we get to the election, though, the more clear it's going to be. It's going to come down to Cruz (read: puppet of the Koch brothers) and Bush (the GOP's ideal "everyman"), and Bush will win.

Cruz isn't going to go far, it would be a waste to funnel money to him. We can't get any good idea as to who will advance until the field whittles down - there will not be 10 candidates fighting. There will maybe be four or five serious ones left. Also, I think you underestimate Rubio's clout among establishment Republicans. He's on good terms with them and the Tea Party and that's a big advantage nobody else has.

Rubio is popular now because he hasn't faed national scrutiny. But, all the GOP establishment are aware of what would happen when the skeletons start to fall out of his closet, and that's why he's an unviable candidate in the long run. Being today's "pet" doesn't mean that you can be tomorrow's president. Again, you've got to think about the long run here.

And Cruz is in it for the long haul. He's serious, and other than his affinity with wealthy white guys, he is too new to have a whole lot of dirty laundry. That's a strength, and he cold very well be the Republican's Obama.
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5/29/2015 12:37:44 AM
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At 5/28/2015 8:22:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.


The curve ball here is the Koch brother, and who they will give all their donations to.

They're donating to multiple candidates.
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5/29/2015 12:39:01 AM
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This forum is kinda dead right now, let's discuss something.

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. But I think Christie would be fun to watch debating Hillary because he would wipe the floor.

Who would be your choice if you could just choose and why?

Marco Rubio. I mean, he is the only one who supports amnesty. Minus Jeb, but I am anti dynastic. He is my second though.
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5/29/2015 2:34:30 AM
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Republicans are so bat-sh!t insane right now, they mine as well just hand the democrats the win.

I mean seriously, this tea party is going to kill them.
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5/29/2015 6:54:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/28/2015 8:22:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/28/2015 10:38:37 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/27/2015 11:02:36 PM, YYW wrote:
Realistically; you've got to first think about who can win the primary, and then think about who can win the general, and Bush is the only one with that kind of appeal and horsepower.

What's your evidence for that? The polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com... don't seem to back that up - according to the most recent Quinnipiac poll, Rubio and Paul fare the best (down four) while the only candidate Bush (down ten) fares better than is Ted Cruz. The only one Bush does better in is a Fox News poll.

Poll results are here today, and gone tomorrow, and there is no way that a poll reflecting today's leader is indicative of what will happen next November.

You've got to think about this in terms of the long run: who is most likely to be most successful over the long run. Ok, the issue then becomes what it takes to be successful. It takes money, connections, a good personality and sheer resilience to make it through. Look at who has the most money now; who has the most connections; who has the least offensive personality (in terms of both who can win the primary and the general); and who best knows how to play the game? Obviously, Jeb Bush.

The curve ball here is the Koch brother, and who they will give all their donations to. They could turn the outcome of -at least- the primary, and my guess is they will not pick Jeb Bush. They could, but it's less probable. It's more likely they're going to go for Ted Cruz --because he is willing to get down on his knees for them-- whereas Bush would not, ever, lower himself to that. The closer we get to the election, though, the more clear it's going to be. It's going to come down to Cruz (read: puppet of the Koch brothers) and Bush (the GOP's ideal "everyman"), and Bush will win.

Why are you libs obsessed with the koch brothers? Of the top 17 political donors, 16 lean democrat.
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5/29/2015 7:44:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/28/2015 8:02:48 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/28/2015 6:02:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/28/2015 5:41:27 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/27/2015 9:13:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
I think the only contenders with a serious chance of winning the nomination are Bush, Walker, and Rubio

I agree thett. They seem to be the strongest contenders at the moment, but it is still pretty early. At this point in 2011 I think Michelle Bachmann was ahead...

Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are my top picks, but I am really anxious for what kind of foreign policy a Republican president would pursue (excluding Rand Paul). Going with full-out war against ISIL makes me pretty nervous, for many different reasons.

I mean. I'm pretty sure it would be just another "War on Terror" campaign and we'd just head back to Iraq and probably invade Syria and maybe Iran while we're there.

Yeah, and that seems like an awful idea to me. It makes me shudder.

Indeed, but I have a feeling if Hillary wins and there's some scandle then we're going back to the Middle East. That's the only time Democrats have an agressive foreign policy.

And Bernie Sanders has a message that appeals to many Americans today, a fair amount of whom may not agree with his solutions but nonetheless are concerned about the same problems.
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