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TN05
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6/6/2015 1:27:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Carol Bowne, a New Jersey woman, was stabbed to death by her ex-boyfriend (on restraining order) earlier this week. In April, she attempted to buy a gun permit to protect herself from him, as he threatened to murder her. Dhe checked again two days before her death to see the progress, but due to state gun control laws, her request was stalled for two months while the department 'waited for fingerprints'. (http://www.nj.com...)
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6/6/2015 4:15:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2015 1:27:10 PM, TN05 wrote:
Carol Bowne, a New Jersey woman, was stabbed to death by her ex-boyfriend (on restraining order) earlier this week. In April, she attempted to buy a gun permit to protect herself from him, as he threatened to murder her. Dhe checked again two days before her death to see the progress, but due to state gun control laws, her request was stalled for two months while the department 'waited for fingerprints'. (http://www.nj.com...)

Tragic indeed, but I take it that you're using this as an example to why we shouldn't impose gun control, am I right?
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6/6/2015 4:36:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2015 4:15:54 PM, Pase66 wrote:
At 6/6/2015 1:27:10 PM, TN05 wrote:
Carol Bowne, a New Jersey woman, was stabbed to death by her ex-boyfriend (on restraining order) earlier this week. In April, she attempted to buy a gun permit to protect herself from him, as he threatened to murder her. Dhe checked again two days before her death to see the progress, but due to state gun control laws, her request was stalled for two months while the department 'waited for fingerprints'. (http://www.nj.com...)

Tragic indeed, but I take it that you're using this as an example to why we shouldn't impose gun control, am I right?

I'm using it to demonstrate that many people are in situations that would benefit from a handgun for self-defense, and that New Jersey gun laws are designed to prevent people from getting guns - not from keeping them from criminals. There is no reason it should take two months to process fingerprints. It can take half a year to get a permit. How does this stop criminals and not harm honest, innocent citizens like Carol Bowne?
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6/6/2015 6:39:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
this happens a lot.
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6/6/2015 7:24:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2015 4:36:24 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/6/2015 4:15:54 PM, Pase66 wrote:
At 6/6/2015 1:27:10 PM, TN05 wrote:
Carol Bowne, a New Jersey woman, was stabbed to death by her ex-boyfriend (on restraining order) earlier this week. In April, she attempted to buy a gun permit to protect herself from him, as he threatened to murder her. Dhe checked again two days before her death to see the progress, but due to state gun control laws, her request was stalled for two months while the department 'waited for fingerprints'. (http://www.nj.com...)

Tragic indeed, but I take it that you're using this as an example to why we shouldn't impose gun control, am I right?

I'm using it to demonstrate that many people are in situations that would benefit from a handgun for self-defense, and that New Jersey gun laws are designed to prevent people from getting guns - not from keeping them from criminals. There is no reason it should take two months to process fingerprints. It can take half a year to get a permit. How does this stop criminals and not harm honest, innocent citizens like Carol Bowne?

Yeah, I agree that its a ridiculous amount of time. There should still be gun control, but it should be more efficient and quick, especially the background checks.
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