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7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

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http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...
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7/25/2015 7:28:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...

Guess that means Trump gets the other 20%?
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7/25/2015 8:15:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 7:51:23 PM, Mirza wrote:
I find this deeply disappointing. I try so hard to like America, and then I hear GOP is less popular than before? Not good news.

Depends on one's point of view.
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7/25/2015 9:49:25 PM
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At 7/25/2015 7:51:23 PM, Mirza wrote:
I find this deeply disappointing. I try so hard to like America, and then I hear GOP is less popular than before? Not good news.

"I try so hard to like America"

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7/25/2015 9:59:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...

This probably has largely to do with the infighting and immature behavior of GOP candidates (such as Donald Trump). It actually doesn't have that much to do with the big issues.
On foreign policy the more aggressive actions by nations like Russia and China have probably made the GOP stance on military more popular (at least a little bit). Americans are actually against abortion more than they used to be (or so I've heard). As for gay marriage, shockingly, after Obergefell vs. Hodges support for it actually declined considerably, and the media probably exaggerated its support a little bit.
The GOP's stance on the big issues isn't killing it quite yet. So it must be the heavy division and the general toxic atmosphere of the GOP candidate campaigning.

However, I agree that the Democratic Party will probably win.
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7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM
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At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...

Disheartening. Why some democrats like the Clintons are not banned from office or in federal prison escape me.

Why Obama isn't considered responsible for more of the woes in this country is beyound understanding.

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.
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7/25/2015 10:18:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 9:59:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...

This probably has largely to do with the infighting and immature behavior of GOP candidates (such as Donald Trump). It actually doesn't have that much to do with the big issues.

I seriously doubt that this is accurate. The GOP has polled below the Democrats since before 2009...I don't think 6+ years of poor polling is the result of infighting between candidates in 2015.

Moreover, if you look at the "big issues," the Democrats are winning more of them than are Republicans. Plus, Republican approval ratings on the issues of taxes, terrorism, and guns have fallen relative to the Democrats, so the Republicans are losing on the big issues too (see No. 4).

On foreign policy the more aggressive actions by nations like Russia and China have probably made the GOP stance on military more popular (at least a little bit).

Actually, with decreasing support for Republicans on the issue of terrorism, I would be surprised if they are as popular on foreign policy as they used to be.

Americans are actually against abortion more than they used to be (or so I've heard).

Democrats beat Republicans on the issues of abortion and contraception 50% to 31%. That's an advantage of 19 points for Democrats. I think that's pretty commanding...

As for gay marriage, shockingly, after Obergefell vs. Hodges support for it actually declined considerably, and the media probably exaggerated its support a little bit.

Actually, that dip was temporary--if it happened at all. Support for gay marriage is at a record high [http://www.pewforum.org...] [http://www.washingtonpost.com...] Frankly, the Republicans have lost this issue; and a majority of people going to the polls will not agree with them on that matter in 2016.
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7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.
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7/25/2015 10:22:52 PM
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At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

Democrats have always held an approval/party identification edge. This is nothing new and has been a consistent trend for decades. That aside, the drop in approval is attributable almost entirely to a decline in Republican views of the GOP dropping from 86% to 68%. Overall views on average are fairly similar to 2013, and we know how 2014 went.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

Once again, another fairly consistent edge.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

These are also traditional Democratic areas of advantage. The GOP has considerable leads in gun control (R+12) and terrorism (R+12), marginal ones in budget deficit (R+4) and taxes (R+1), and is within 3 of the Democrats on immigration (D+2), economy (D+3) and foreign policy (D+3).

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Not much. I'd focus more on actual election polls, which show Hillary is struggling in the honesty department and that she is trailing in states like Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia. Even Democrat PPP polls show Bush, Walker, and Rubio all behind by only 5 points nationally. Hardly the beginnings of a landslide.

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http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...
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7/25/2015 10:27:02 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

That maybe so, but there are objective facts that I can point to in support of it.

Send me a challenge 'America is not what the founding fathers envisioned it to be'
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7/25/2015 10:28:58 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:22:52 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

These are also traditional Democratic areas of advantage. The GOP has considerable leads in gun control (R+12) and terrorism (R+12), marginal ones in budget deficit (R+4) and taxes (R+1), and is within 3 of the Democrats on immigration (D+2), economy (D+3) and foreign policy (D+3).

Sure, the leads are large, but they've been in a decline for awhile. And, most people I know prefer to vote on the economy over gun control. Similarly, key groups like Hispanics agree with the Democrats on the issues that matter most to those groups (e.g. immigration).

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Not much.

I don't just mean the Presidential election, but the election more broadly.
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7/25/2015 10:30:19 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:27:02 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

That maybe so, but there are objective facts that I can point to in support of it.

Send me a challenge 'America is not what the founding fathers envisioned it to be'

I agree that it's not what the founding fathers envisaged. For instance, they never conceived of a country that would legalize gay marriage. However, I would call those kinds of changes progress. I'd debate you on this, you just need to find a different way to word your topic.
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7/25/2015 10:57:42 PM
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7/25/2015 11:02:21 PM
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I think it's also an important thing to note that the GOP approval rating has dropped 9 points since just January.
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7/25/2015 11:16:48 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:30:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:27:02 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

That maybe so, but there are objective facts that I can point to in support of it.

Send me a challenge 'America is not what the founding fathers envisioned it to be'

I agree that it's not what the founding fathers envisaged. For instance, they never conceived of a country that would legalize gay marriage. However, I would call those kinds of changes progress. I'd debate you on this, you just need to find a different way to word your topic.

Clinton Foundation.
http://www.westernfreepress.com...

http://www.ibtimes.com...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com...

And just because they are asses I throw this in.
http://www.nytimes.com...

Is the public paying attention to this? No:

Mr.Rubio makes less in a year what Hillary Clinton got paid for one speech. But no one suspected Hillary Clinton of owning all the multi million dollar homes.

I would like to see an investigation in the repeated appearance of being bought by foreign powers while in State Department.

I don't think the Founding Fathers envisioned that crime being acceptable.

I don't think they thought a 2 star General for Thanking God.
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George Washington constantly talked about God as did many of the Founding Fathers. The even put it into the bill of rights that everyone be free to practice their religious beliefs and to confess their faith. "For God and Country" shouldn't be punished.

I do not think they would condone the Treaties the Executive Office is making without Congressional approval. I don't think they would agree with the number of Agencies making regulations with the power to fine and take property with out the people voting to instate them.

I'm pretty sure they were against income tax, and felt taxes should be levied per head. Property tax is a serf system in which tenets pay their rent (property tax) to the government or have their homes taken away.

I'm pretty sure the Founding fathers would consider tax money going to fixing the foundations and battling erosion on million dollar beach houses a misappropriation of government funds. Considering such costs to be the burden of the owner.

But if you want to debate how far socialist and less free than envisioned be my guess.
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7/25/2015 11:20:00 PM
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At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

I can't believe either party has that much support and I think it shows Democrats have their heads in the clouds more than republicans. That's basically 100% approval from their side.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.


4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...
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7/25/2015 11:21:59 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

Is he referring to Plato's Republic?

I know they didn't have Republican and Democrat then, but I always viewed Plato as more closely aligning with the Democratic party.
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7/25/2015 11:24:54 PM
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At 7/25/2015 11:20:00 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

I can't believe either party has that much support and I think it shows Democrats have their heads in the clouds more than republicans. That's basically 100% approval from their side.

Umm...no...
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7/25/2015 11:25:24 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:30:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:27:02 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

That maybe so, but there are objective facts that I can point to in support of it.

Send me a challenge 'America is not what the founding fathers envisioned it to be'

I agree that it's not what the founding fathers envisaged. For instance, they never conceived of a country that would legalize gay marriage. However, I would call those kinds of changes progress. I'd debate you on this, you just need to find a different way to word your topic.

The founding fathers were all homos, stop being silly. Have you looked at some of the customs from that time period? Men sleeping in the same bed, holding hands? Thomas Jefferson was definitely pro gay marriage and pro banging black chicks. Very liberal dude
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7/25/2015 11:26:40 PM
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At 7/25/2015 10:18:37 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 9:59:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Data

1. The Situation Now. The GOP is polling with 32% approval vs. the Democrats 48% approve. The GOP has a 60% unfavorability rating as compared to the Democrats 47% rating.

2. The Long-term View. Since 2011, the GOP's polling has be spotty at best. The gap between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of favorability is the widest it's been in 2 years, and--at no point since before 2009--has the GOP polled above the Democrats.

3. Likeability. Republicans are seen as more extreme than Democrats by a 17% margin. Democrats are seen as more empathetic/concerned with the needs of everyday people, more honest, more ethical, AND more able to manage government.

4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Sources

http://www.msnbc.com...
http://www.people-press.org...

This probably has largely to do with the infighting and immature behavior of GOP candidates (such as Donald Trump). It actually doesn't have that much to do with the big issues.

I seriously doubt that this is accurate. The GOP has polled below the Democrats since before 2009...I don't think 6+ years of poor polling is the result of infighting between candidates in 2015.

George Bush was an unpopular president. Of course his presidency would be followed by a dip in support for the GOP.

Moreover, if you look at the "big issues," the Democrats are winning more of them than are Republicans. Plus, Republican approval ratings on the issues of taxes, terrorism, and guns have fallen relative to the Democrats, so the Republicans are losing on the big issues too (see No. 4).

On foreign policy the more aggressive actions by nations like Russia and China have probably made the GOP stance on military more popular (at least a little bit).

Actually, with decreasing support for Republicans on the issue of terrorism, I would be surprised if they are as popular on foreign policy as they used to be.

This isn't really about terrorism. It's about China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and the likes. The more these countries assert themselves (as they certainly will do over the coming years) the more GOP support on this issue will grow.
Virtually nobody in Sweden supported joining NATO in 2013; now about a third of Swedes do.

Americans are actually against abortion more than they used to be (or so I've heard).

Democrats beat Republicans on the issues of abortion and contraception 50% to 31%. That's an advantage of 19 points for Democrats. I think that's pretty commanding...

I think you confuse the question of whether or not one's Pro-choice with whether or not they think abortion is okay. A surprisingly high number of Pro-Choice people think abortion is immoral, whereas there's virtually nobody in the anti-abortion crowd who doesn't see abortion as immoral.

As for gay marriage, shockingly, after Obergefell vs. Hodges support for it actually declined considerably, and the media probably exaggerated its support a little bit.

Actually, that dip was temporary--if it happened at all. Support for gay marriage is at a record high [http://www.pewforum.org...] [http://www.washingtonpost.com...] Frankly, the Republicans have lost this issue; and a majority of people going to the polls will not agree with them on that matter in 2016.

The dip did in fact happen, even if only temporarily.

The GOP kicked butt in 2014; I wouldn't say that the majority disagrees with them on the issues all that much.
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7/25/2015 11:34:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 11:26:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:18:37 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 9:59:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
This probably has largely to do with the infighting and immature behavior of GOP candidates (such as Donald Trump). It actually doesn't have that much to do with the big issues.

I seriously doubt that this is accurate. The GOP has polled below the Democrats since before 2009...I don't think 6+ years of poor polling is the result of infighting between candidates in 2015.

George Bush was an unpopular president. Of course his presidency would be followed by a dip in support for the GOP.

Vox, Democrats have polled better than Republicans since before 2009. GW's tenure was not "followed" by a dip. In fact, the GOP has been viewed net unfavorably since 2005 [http://www.pewresearch.org...] That's a whole decade.

Moreover, if you look at the "big issues," the Democrats are winning more of them than are Republicans. Plus, Republican approval ratings on the issues of taxes, terrorism, and guns have fallen relative to the Democrats, so the Republicans are losing on the big issues too (see No. 4).

On foreign policy the more aggressive actions by nations like Russia and China have probably made the GOP stance on military more popular (at least a little bit).

Actually, with decreasing support for Republicans on the issue of terrorism, I would be surprised if they are as popular on foreign policy as they used to be.

This isn't really about terrorism. It's about China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and the likes. The more these countries assert themselves (as they certainly will do over the coming years) the more GOP support on this issue will grow.

Foriegn policy is not JUST about those countries. My point was that on other FP areas, the GOP is suffering.

Americans are actually against abortion more than they used to be (or so I've heard).

Democrats beat Republicans on the issues of abortion and contraception 50% to 31%. That's an advantage of 19 points for Democrats. I think that's pretty commanding...

I think you confuse the question of whether or not one's Pro-choice with whether or not they think abortion is okay. A surprisingly high number of Pro-Choice people think abortion is immoral, whereas there's virtually nobody in the anti-abortion crowd who doesn't see abortion as immoral.

Whatever. The point is that Democrats DOMINATE the field on that issue. Whether or not you think it's immoral, voters prefer how Democrats handle the issue.

As for gay marriage, shockingly, after Obergefell vs. Hodges support for it actually declined considerably, and the media probably exaggerated its support a little bit.

Actually, that dip was temporary--if it happened at all. Support for gay marriage is at a record high [http://www.pewforum.org...] [http://www.washingtonpost.com...] Frankly, the Republicans have lost this issue; and a majority of people going to the polls will not agree with them on that matter in 2016.

The dip did in fact happen, even if only temporarily.

Whatever. Again, obviously gay rights are not in danger of losing their supporters.

The GOP kicked butt in 2014; I wouldn't say that the majority disagrees with them on the issues all that much.

Midterm elections have low turnout. 2016 will be different, Vox.
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7/25/2015 11:36:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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7/26/2015 12:03:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 8:15:12 PM, wsmunit7 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 7:51:23 PM, Mirza wrote:
I find this deeply disappointing. I try so hard to like America, and then I hear GOP is less popular than before? Not good news.

Depends on one's point of view.

I may be mistaken but think he is using sarcasm?
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7/26/2015 5:50:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 10:28:58 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:22:52 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 6:28:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
4. On the Issues. Republican ratings on key issues are eroding: "On foreign policy, taxes, policies about abortion and contraception, and terrorism the Democratic Party has improved its position since February...The Democratic Party"s advantage on abortion and contraception has increased 16 points since February; currently 50% say Democrats could do the better job dealing with policies on abortion and contraception, while just 31% say the GOP could." Meanwhile, Democrats lead on a slew of other topics, including the environment, education, and healthcare (despite GOP grumblings over Obamacare.)

These are also traditional Democratic areas of advantage. The GOP has considerable leads in gun control (R+12) and terrorism (R+12), marginal ones in budget deficit (R+4) and taxes (R+1), and is within 3 of the Democrats on immigration (D+2), economy (D+3) and foreign policy (D+3).

Sure, the leads are large, but they've been in a decline for awhile. And, most people I know prefer to vote on the economy over gun control. Similarly, key groups like Hispanics agree with the Democrats on the issues that matter most to those groups (e.g. immigration).

That's the kicker. After Nixon won re-election in 1972, Pauline Kael is quoted as saying that "she didn't know anybody that voted for him". It doesn't matter how many people you know, you may well be in the minority and not understand why. Personally, I don't understand why any people are considering voting for Trump. But they exist.

Thoughts? How will this impact 2016, if at all?

Not much.

I don't just mean the Presidential election, but the election more broadly.

Well, the House definitely isn't flipping back. I think the Senate is also likely to stay R, in the event of a GOP win or close loss.
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7/26/2015 7:56:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 10:27:02 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:19:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.

That's your opinion, not objective fact.

That maybe so, but there are objective facts that I can point to in support of it.

Send me a challenge 'America is not what the founding fathers envisioned it to be'

I certainly doubt they envisioned nuclear power, Boeing 747s, the Internet, flat screen TVs, hour news cycle, instant communications around the world ( I am video Skyping with my fianc"e right now) ,,,, a LOT of things!
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7/26/2015 9:56:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 9:59:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:

However, I agree that the Democratic Party will probably win.

I can imagine that Hillary Clinton would beat Jeb Bush in a general election matchup, but I don't know how she would do against Marco Rubio or Scott Walker. There are a few other wildcards in the GOP field that could possibly stage a surprise.
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7/26/2015 10:00:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/25/2015 10:01:35 PM, Mhykiel wrote:

Why Obama isn't considered responsible for more of the woes in this country is beyound understanding.

President Obama inherited a mess, and while I disagree with most of his policies, America seems to be doing better under his watch. Mostly despite the pork-barrel stimulus legislation, tax increases, and general unwillingness to cut spending by a significant degree.

America is a country nothing like the Republic envisioned. It's commiting suicide.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan