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The Left is Dead - All Hail the Right

Wocambs
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8/8/2015 9:46:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Jeremy Corbyn decides to stand for Labour leadership, and the ridiculous right-wing slant of the political spectrum becomes apparent.

This completely non-threatening sixty six year old was immediately attacked as part of the 'hard left', a 'Marxist', for suggesting the mildest of left wing policies. Stop austerity, stop the wars, nationalise the rail and energy industries - this, apparently, is the modern equivalent of having a hammer and sickle tattooed on your chest. Only in a world where we regard a president who supports the mass surveillance of his own citizens and the use of torture as a 'liberal' could this make any sense.

The explanation for this of course is not that people are being stupid but simply that once you define people like Corbyn as the 'hard left', you can get away with doing anything on the right. You can say "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone", and not be thrown out of office - a statement so insanely authoritarian only an equally insane ideology could permit it. To be honest, this was apparent when Ed Miliband was called 'Red Ed'. The man had no problems with austerity measures and refused to support the nationalisation of rail and energy despite popular support. The right is so strong is doesn't even need to justify itself anymore. Osborne sells RBS shares simply for the reason that RBS ought to be privately owned, a statement of ideology not 'pragmatism'.
mic4ael
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8/9/2015 5:17:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/8/2015 9:46:20 PM, Wocambs wrote:
Jeremy Corbyn decides to stand for Labour leadership, and the ridiculous right-wing slant of the political spectrum becomes apparent.

This completely non-threatening sixty six year old was immediately attacked as part of the 'hard left', a 'Marxist', for suggesting the mildest of left wing policies.

Totally agree! We all know socialism do not work in the long run, but what do you think we should do to make capitalism work even better?
Wocambs
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8/12/2015 9:08:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/9/2015 5:17:06 PM, mic4ael wrote:
At 8/8/2015 9:46:20 PM, Wocambs wrote:
Jeremy Corbyn decides to stand for Labour leadership, and the ridiculous right-wing slant of the political spectrum becomes apparent.

This completely non-threatening sixty six year old was immediately attacked as part of the 'hard left', a 'Marxist', for suggesting the mildest of left wing policies.

Totally agree! We all know socialism do not work in the long run, but what do you think we should do to make capitalism work even better?

Capitalism does not work, let alone well, let alone with justice. My post was just commenting on how being vaguely left-wing gets you condemned as a hardline anarcho-communist.
Davey180
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8/21/2015 4:47:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
If you had come here ranting about the abuse Corbyn has received from the media then I may have understood that. However, if you don't think Corbyn's policies - and here I assume you actually understand them in greater detail than you have thus far provided - are strongly left-wing then I am afraid to say that you may just be the most politically naive commentator I've ever come across.
Emilrose
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8/21/2015 3:35:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hm, I've been following the labour race for leader a lot and have been particularly interested in his campaign due to the media attention on him.

In fairness, I think *most* of the criticism towards him is totally valid and you are incorrect in assuming that it is exclusively related to anti left-wing bias and anti-Socialist rhetoric, even liberal news outlets such as the Guardian have taken issue with Corbyn.

The biggest problem with him (something many Labour politicians have noted) is that his policies are entirely outdated and unrealistic, perhaps in the 1970's/1980's they would have had more value, but not now.

Why some leftist young people and other labour voters are so enthused about him I do not know...as once again, he has nothing to new or contemporary to offer. It's almost like a post-Blair rebellion, people see him as not being a careerist politician and as having traditionally far-left views, thus *thinking* that he will make a good leader. Which is of course, entirely misguided.
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