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8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

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I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.
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8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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8/20/2015 3:41:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.

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I am kinda a Kasich fanboy. I mean my first choice is Rubio, but I really do like Kasich a lot. I mean when I vote in my (useless) NM primary, doing my protest vote (since Jeb is prolly gonna win, though rubio might) for one of them will be hard. Bubble in both :P
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8/20/2015 3:42:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 3:41:58 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am kinda a Kasich fanboy. I mean my first choice is Rubio, but I really do like Kasich a lot. I mean when I vote in my (useless) NM primary, doing my protest vote (since Jeb is prolly gonna win, though rubio might) for one of them will be hard. Bubble in both :P

worded that like sh!t but whatever m8
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8/20/2015 3:54:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.

1) Compared to what other country?

2) How would getting rid of teachers lounges, the place for teachers to go to in their very limited time off in between classes, somehow address ANY problem? Just about every major profession has breakrooms for employees, why should teachers have theirs taken away?
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8/20/2015 4:14:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 3:54:23 AM, imabench wrote:
At 8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.

1) Compared to what other country?

Tenure, for example, is weaker in a lot of European countries (it doesn't even really exist in England in any official form since 1988, and the contractual replacements have been weakening, and is applied only to a small minority of teachers in Germany). Standards in England are also higher (strict testing requirements being a big one). Both have highly efficient education systems.

2) How would getting rid of teachers lounges, the place for teachers to go to in their very limited time off in between classes, somehow address ANY problem? Just about every major profession has breakrooms for employees, why should teachers have theirs taken away?

That's why it's farcical; I don't think that he was really being literal in any sense, it just isn't even feasible to do. I think that it was a general statement against teachers' unions, and their death-grip on education in this country.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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8/20/2015 4:26:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/20/2015 4:14:46 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 3:54:23 AM, imabench wrote:
At 8/20/2015 3:05:59 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 8/20/2015 2:42:25 AM, imabench wrote:
"If I were not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers' lounges, where they sit together and worry about, oh woe is us," Kasich, who is running for the GOP nomination for president, said Wednesday, during an appearance at an education summit in New Hampshire."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

I had a same issue with Jeb Bush earlier saying something I didnt like even though I wanted to be able to like him, and now im having the same issue with John Kasich. Again, i WANT to like him and want to consider voting for him, but when he says things like this it makes it difficult for me to do so.

Why? It's a bit of a farcical proposition, but teachers' unions in this country ARE ridiculous.

1) Compared to what other country?

Tenure, for example, is weaker in a lot of European countries (it doesn't even really exist in England in any official form since 1988, and the contractual replacements have been weakening, and is applied only to a small minority of teachers in Germany). Standards in England are also higher (strict testing requirements being a big one). Both have highly efficient education systems.

2) How would getting rid of teachers lounges, the place for teachers to go to in their very limited time off in between classes, somehow address ANY problem? Just about every major profession has breakrooms for employees, why should teachers have theirs taken away?

That's why it's farcical; I don't think that he was really being literal in any sense, it just isn't even feasible to do. I think that it was a general statement against teachers' unions, and their death-grip on education in this country.

Yeah, I think it was a joke. The way he phrased it (about how they go, as a group, to complain) seems, to me anyway, to be a reference to collective bargaining.
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