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8/22/2015 1:37:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Week One: Mommy, I am only 8 inches long, but I have all my organs. I love the sound of your voice. Every time I hear it, I wave my arms and legs. The sound of your heart beat is my favorite lullaby.
Week Two: Mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb. If you could see me, you could definitely tell that I am a baby. I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though. It is so nice and warm in here.
Week Three: You know what Mommy, I'm a girl!! I hope that makes you happy. I always want you to be happy. I don't like it when you cry. You sound so sad. It makes me sad too, and I cry with you even though you can't hear me.
Week Four: Mommy, my hair is starting to grow. It is very short and fine, but I will have a lot of it. I spend a lot of my time exercising. I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes, and stretch my arms and legs. I am becoming quite good at it too.
Week Five: You went to the doctor today. Mommy, he lied to you. He said that I'm not a baby. I am a baby Mommy, your baby. I think and feel. Mommy, what's abortion?
Week Six: I can hear that doctor again. I don't like him. He seems cold and heartless. Something is intruding my home. The doctor called it a needle. Mommy what is it? It burns! Please make him stop! I can't get away from it! Mommy!! HELP me!! No...
Week Seven: Mommy, I am okay. I am in Jesus' arms. He is holding me. He told me about abortion. Why didn't you want me Mommy? We would have been so happy together.
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8/22/2015 3:50:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Ok... that was depressing. Not that this post is going to get through to the more intellectual and emotionally hardened members of this website. Emotional appeals like this are better off on Facebook.
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8/22/2015 3:56:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
How...unsatisfying.
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8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...
"See now Oblivion shimmering all around us, its very tranquility deadlier than tempest. How little all our keels have troubled it. Time in its deeps swims like a monstrous whale; and, like a whale, feeds on the littlest things -- small tunes and little unskilled songs of the olden, golden evenings -- and anon turneth whale-like to overthrow whole ships."
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8/22/2015 5:40:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...

+1.
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8/22/2015 5:53:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...

Excellent
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8/22/2015 9:01:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Why would the baby think it would be happier with it's mom who murdered it than with Jesus? Is Jesus really that bad of a guy?
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8/22/2015 9:31:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 1:37:02 AM, Hardtruthmerchant wrote:
Week One: Mommy, I am only 8 inches long, but I have all my organs. I love the sound of your voice. Every time I hear it, I wave my arms and legs. The sound of your heart beat is my favorite lullaby.
Week Two: Mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb. If you could see me, you could definitely tell that I am a baby. I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though. It is so nice and warm in here.
Week Three: You know what Mommy, I'm a girl!! I hope that makes you happy. I always want you to be happy. I don't like it when you cry. You sound so sad. It makes me sad too, and I cry with you even though you can't hear me.
Week Four: Mommy, my hair is starting to grow. It is very short and fine, but I will have a lot of it. I spend a lot of my time exercising. I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes, and stretch my arms and legs. I am becoming quite good at it too.
Week Five: You went to the doctor today. Mommy, he lied to you. He said that I'm not a baby. I am a baby Mommy, your baby. I think and feel. Mommy, what's abortion?
Week Six: I can hear that doctor again. I don't like him. He seems cold and heartless. Something is intruding my home. The doctor called it a needle. Mommy what is it? It burns! Please make him stop! I can't get away from it! Mommy!! HELP me!! No...
Week Seven: Mommy, I am okay. I am in Jesus' arms. He is holding me. He told me about abortion. Why didn't you want me Mommy? We would have been so happy together.

So more abortions = more babies in Jesus arms.

Well that's the best Pro abortion argument I have ever heard.
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8/22/2015 11:03:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 9:01:02 AM, Wylted wrote:
Why would the baby think it would be happier with it's mom who murdered it than with Jesus? Is Jesus really that bad of a guy?

+1

Best argument for abortion -- people who want abortions are heartless, so they should have abortions to save the babies from their heartlessness.
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8/22/2015 11:04:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...

Week Seven should be more like ____ , but I agree.
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8/22/2015 11:13:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
You know where you at when people have to use factually wrong appeals to emotion to defend their superstitions.
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8/22/2015 11:36:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...

The first amendment applies to fetuses as well, you know. You can't just arbitrarily suppress their speech like that.
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8/22/2015 12:39:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 11:36:26 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:21:32 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I think that my version is a bit more realistic:

Week One: ...
Week Two: ...
Week Three: ...
Week Four: ...
Week Six: ...
Week Seven: ...

The first amendment applies to fetuses as well, you know. You can't just arbitrarily suppress their speech like that.

If those libs are willing to murder a baby they sure as hell aren't going to care about the bastards constitutional rights.
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8/22/2015 12:39:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 11:13:30 AM, Fkkize wrote:
You know where you at when people have to use factually wrong appeals to emotion to defend their superstitions.

Superstitions?
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8/22/2015 12:43:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 12:39:27 PM, Philocat wrote:
At 8/22/2015 11:13:30 AM, Fkkize wrote:
You know where you at when people have to use factually wrong appeals to emotion to defend their superstitions.

Superstitions?

I count the idea that a fetus, only a handful of weeks into gestation, is a thinking person as a superstition.
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8/22/2015 1:11:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
"Technically, your baby is still considered an embryo and has something of a small tail, which is an extension of her tailbone. The tail will disappear within a few weeks, but that's the only thing getting smaller. Your baby has doubled in size since last week and now measures half an inch long, about the size of a blueberry".

http://www.babycenter.com...

Hm.
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8/22/2015 4:11:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 1:37:02 AM, Hardtruthmerchant wrote:
Week One: Mommy, I am only 8 inches long, but I have all my organs. I love the sound of your voice. Every time I hear it, I wave my arms and legs. The sound of your heart beat is my favorite lullaby.
Week Two: Mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb. If you could see me, you could definitely tell that I am a baby. I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though. It is so nice and warm in here.
Week Three: You know what Mommy, I'm a girl!! I hope that makes you happy. I always want you to be happy. I don't like it when you cry. You sound so sad. It makes me sad too, and I cry with you even though you can't hear me.
Week Four: Mommy, my hair is starting to grow. It is very short and fine, but I will have a lot of it. I spend a lot of my time exercising. I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes, and stretch my arms and legs. I am becoming quite good at it too.
Week Five: You went to the doctor today. Mommy, he lied to you. He said that I'm not a baby. I am a baby Mommy, your baby. I think and feel. Mommy, what's abortion?
Week Six: I can hear that doctor again. I don't like him. He seems cold and heartless. Something is intruding my home. The doctor called it a needle. Mommy what is it? It burns! Please make him stop! I can't get away from it! Mommy!! HELP me!! No...
Week Seven: Mommy, I am okay. I am in Jesus' arms. He is holding me. He told me about abortion. Why didn't you want me Mommy? We would have been so happy together.

So many issues, I don't even know where to start.

How about you look at fetal development and adjust the time-line a bit before we get too far into this schmaltz.

http://www.parents.com...
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8/22/2015 4:15:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 3:50:24 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Ok... that was depressing. Not that this post is going to get through to the more intellectual and emotionally hardened members of this website. Emotional appeals like this are better off on Facebook.

They like to act emotionally distant because they think it will make them sound tough and conceal the fact that they spent the majority of their high school years with their head in a toilet. Sadly, the ruse is transparent
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8/22/2015 4:15:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I see, you have cut and pasted this... inane crap. Well, I suggest you get some actual information on fetal development before posting this any more.
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8/22/2015 4:39:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 1:37:02 AM, Hardtruthmerchant wrote:
Week One: Mommy, I am only 8 inches long, but I have all my organs. I love the sound of your voice. Every time I hear it, I wave my arms and legs. The sound of your heart beat is my favorite lullaby.
Week Two: Mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb. If you could see me, you could definitely tell that I am a baby. I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though. It is so nice and warm in here.
Week Three: You know what Mommy, I'm a girl!! I hope that makes you happy. I always want you to be happy. I don't like it when you cry. You sound so sad. It makes me sad too, and I cry with you even though you can't hear me.
Week Four: Mommy, my hair is starting to grow. It is very short and fine, but I will have a lot of it. I spend a lot of my time exercising. I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes, and stretch my arms and legs. I am becoming quite good at it too.
Week Five: You went to the doctor today. Mommy, he lied to you. He said that I'm not a baby. I am a baby Mommy, your baby. I think and feel. Mommy, what's abortion?
Week Six: I can hear that doctor again. I don't like him. He seems cold and heartless. Something is intruding my home. The doctor called it a needle. Mommy what is it? It burns! Please make him stop! I can't get away from it! Mommy!! HELP me!! No...
Week Seven: Mommy, I am okay. I am in Jesus' arms. He is holding me. He told me about abortion. Why didn't you want me Mommy? We would have been so happy together.

At week 6 the fetus doesn't have the proper facilities to feel pain. It also can't suck its thumb until week 12. Of course, none of this is realistic at all because it wouldn't actually be conscious nor would it understand it was a separate entity even if it was.

Also, I doubt they would've been happy together, since if she wanted the baby she would've kept it. Keeping it despite not wanting it would unlikely create joy. Although possible, it seems it would more likely create a sense of duty. The mother would have to abandon her past life to take care of the child.
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8/22/2015 5:05:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/22/2015 4:15:05 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 8/22/2015 3:50:24 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Ok... that was depressing. Not that this post is going to get through to the more intellectual and emotionally hardened members of this website. Emotional appeals like this are better off on Facebook.

They like to act emotionally distant because they think it will make them sound tough and conceal the fact that they spent the majority of their high school years with their head in a toilet. Sadly, the ruse is transparent

Why do you think this way? I certainly don't think that. Of course I do think a general lack of emotional and personal experience makes it easier for them to believe things like infanticide is morally permissable.
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8/22/2015 5:55:55 PM
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At 8/22/2015 5:30:11 PM, TBR wrote:
The majority of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

If that's what you think then you have clearly not read philosophical pro life literature.
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8/22/2015 6:07:32 PM
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At 8/22/2015 5:55:55 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:30:11 PM, TBR wrote:
The majority of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

If that's what you think then you have clearly not read philosophical pro life literature.

the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.
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8/22/2015 6:16:10 PM
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At 8/22/2015 6:07:32 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:55:55 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:30:11 PM, TBR wrote:
The majority of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

If that's what you think then you have clearly not read philosophical pro life literature.

the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

Making arguments showing the immorality of something =/= appeal to emotion.
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8/22/2015 6:21:36 PM
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the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

Making arguments showing the immorality of something =/= appeal to emotion.

I am not disagreeing with that. I am saying, rightly, the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion. Want to look at what started this thread and make the case for how it is NOT an emotional appeal? How about a look through the AHA site? Can you find the philosophical argument for me?
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8/22/2015 6:25:16 PM
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At 8/22/2015 6:07:32 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:55:55 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 8/22/2015 5:30:11 PM, TBR wrote:
The majority of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

If that's what you think then you have clearly not read philosophical pro life literature.

the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

Even if this was correct, what would it matter if there were legitimate philosophical reasons to be pro-life? Anyways, the general population argues from emotion on any issue.
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8/22/2015 6:27:53 PM
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If that's what you think then you have clearly not read philosophical pro life literature.

the MAJORITY of the pro-life argument is an appeal to emotion.

Even if this was correct, what would it matter if there were legitimate philosophical reasons to be pro-life? Anyways, the general population argues from emotion on any issue.

It matters because a large portion of the population are basing their understanding of the issue on Halmark card sentiment. They are manipulated by bumper stickers and nonsense like this OP.
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8/22/2015 6:28:38 PM
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If you have to resort to dishonesty, and blatantly appealing to emotion to make your case resonate, then how strong is it?