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Do you support suicide rights?

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8/24/2015 4:48:05 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:

How do you know their life will turn out bad? Maybe it'll suddenly get better and suicide would have been a bad idea.
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8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM
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I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.
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8/24/2015 4:52:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 4:48:05 AM, Varrack wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:

How do you know their life will turn out bad? Maybe it'll suddenly get better and suicide would have been a bad idea.

How do you know that it will turn out good? A life with suffering is no life at all. God is worse than a rapist.
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8/24/2015 4:54:16 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

Lol. That might actually go over her head to be honest.
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8/24/2015 4:55:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 4:52:50 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:48:05 AM, Varrack wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:

How do you know their life will turn out bad? Maybe it'll suddenly get better and suicide would have been a bad idea.

How do you know that it will turn out good? A life with suffering is no life at all. God is worse than a rapist.

Suffering is good for us. It builds character. There's no reason to commit suicide just because of a few wrong things.
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8/24/2015 4:55:29 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

People have the right to die with dignity> You dont have the right to force people to suffer.
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8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.
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8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM
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At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering.
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8/24/2015 5:07:52 AM
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At 8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering. : :

I have many friends and relatives who have committed suicide and none of them give a damn about their rights today.
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8/24/2015 5:14:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 5:07:52 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering. : :

I have many friends and relatives who have committed suicide and none of them give a damn about their rights today.
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8/24/2015 6:10:17 AM
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At 8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering.

So you're encouraging people to have weak countenances? If everything isn't kittens and rainbows just kill yourself because it's not worth it to see where things are in a week, a month? What degree of "suffering" is deemed worthy of suicide in your book?
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8/24/2015 6:51:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

There's a solid case to be made in favor of a right to death, but that's a terrible argument lolz

The vast majority of people who either attempted to commit suicide or seriously considered it (myself included) are glad that they didn't go through with it. Life gets better - it rarely stays "shitty" forever.
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8/24/2015 1:03:39 PM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

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8/24/2015 4:56:26 PM
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Let me pose a slightly different.but relevent question.

If you saw a person about to jump from a cliff or throw themselves from.a train would you try to talk them out of it or save them?
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8/25/2015 1:54:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

The strange thing about me is as follows.

I do not support
-Abortion
-Euthanasia

I support
-Death Penalty
-Right to suicide (by own means)
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8/25/2015 1:55:03 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

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8/26/2015 3:58:04 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

I do support this. It is their right. Many times in war, soldiers were given the "suicide pill". Think about why for a moment. Do I like the idea? No. But come on now. What if it's death or sickening torture?
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8/26/2015 4:00:40 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:48:05 AM, Varrack wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:

How do you know their life will turn out bad? Maybe it'll suddenly get better and suicide would have been a bad idea.

What if they have a suicide pill and it's that or be thrown in an oven alive or perhaps then face the Batan Death March? Just food for thought. I get your thinking but there are two sides to this coin in my humbled opinion.
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8/26/2015 4:05:12 AM
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At 8/26/2015 4:00:40 AM, Sooner wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:48:05 AM, Varrack wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:

How do you know their life will turn out bad? Maybe it'll suddenly get better and suicide would have been a bad idea.

What if they have a suicide pill and it's that or be thrown in an oven alive or perhaps then face the Batan Death March? Just food for thought. I get your thinking but there are two sides to this coin in my humbled opinion.

I would support assisted suicide before non-assisted suicide, although I am hesitant about suicide as a whole. The "thrown in an oven alive" scenario is a little extreme, and I don't think it's fair to use that as an example.
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8/26/2015 4:07:37 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

Then suicide desiring people should do something worthy of the death penalty to get their wish. Just saying. It's easy to say unless you have faced something that pushes you towards suicidal thinking. My uncle had PTSD from WWII bad. His young son woke him up, triggering his trauma. He killed his son. Once he realized what he had done, he killed himself. Not everything is black and white. To me this subject spells out "grey". Wait until you're 93 in a nursing home and have Anhedinia(spelling?) And are in agonizing, torturing pain. Views can change with experience.
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8/26/2015 4:10:42 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:52:14 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think we ought to punish attempted suicide with the death penalty. Since the death penalty deters crime--that was we'll bring down the suicide rate.

Nevermind. I thought u were saying anyone who aids a suicide like Dr. Kavorkian(spelling). Yeah. Your method would work.
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8/26/2015 4:13:12 AM
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At 8/24/2015 6:10:17 AM, Mr_Anderson wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering.

So you're encouraging people to have weak countenances? If everything isn't kittens and rainbows just kill yourself because it's not worth it to see where things are in a week, a month? What degree of "suffering" is deemed worthy of suicide in your book?

Being put through devices used to torture people and having an out like a suicide pill. Do you take it?
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8/26/2015 4:16:21 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

Do I think people have the right to take their own life? To the extent that people have property in their body, yes. I would argue, however, that people do not have property in their bodies to the extent that would be required to allow them to kill themselves.
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8/26/2015 4:16:51 AM
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At 8/24/2015 6:10:17 AM, Mr_Anderson wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:05:05 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 8/24/2015 5:01:40 AM, xtra wrote:
At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die. : :

It's very difficult to explain to those who committed suicide that they don't have the right to do it.

Suicide is a right if people are suffering.

So you're encouraging people to have weak countenances? If everything isn't kittens and rainbows just kill yourself because it's not worth it to see where things are in a week, a month? What degree of "suffering" is deemed worthy of suicide in your book?

Not to toss religious thoughts in here but think of Roman crucifixion. While you are hanging there do you not have the right to sayto a nearby soldier,"hey man, could you go ahead and take me out now with one of your weapons?"
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8/26/2015 4:23:08 AM
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What if they are a vegetable? Who knows if a person is still in there? I think if they've signed the papers to have the plug pulled that is their right, not that I would ever want that choice. And the Bible doesn't say suicides go to be burned for eternity. Cut that crap out.
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8/26/2015 4:24:17 AM
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And if they are a vegetable? Who knows if a person is still in there? I think if they've signed the papers to have the plug pulled that is their right, not that I would ever want that choice. And the Bible doesn't say suicides go to be burned for eternity. Cut that crap out.
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8/26/2015 6:03:11 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

Of course not, we can't let the unwashed make important decisions for themselves.
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8/26/2015 11:18:24 AM
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At 8/24/2015 4:32:44 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I do. If people are going to have a shitty life, they might as well die.

I support suicide rights.