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No Foreign Born Person Can be POTUS

Thalightguy
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9/20/2015 10:55:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
1. All U.S. Constitutional natural born citizens are born citizens of the United States.
2. Since the beginning of the U.S. not all persons born outside the U.S. to U.S. citizen parents have acquired U.S. citizenship at birth.
3. Since the beginning of the U.S. all persons born in the U.S. to two U.S. citizen parents have been born citizens of the United States.

Conclusion, All persons born in the United States to two U.S. citizens parents are Constitutional natural born citizens. No person born outside the U.S. to U.S. citizen parents are Constitutional natural born citizens. If they were, then all persons born outside the U.S. (Since the beginning of the U.S.) to U.S. citizen parents would have been born citizens of the United States.

See: [U.S. Supreme Court] Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308 (1961) Syllabus "Petitioner"s mother is a native-born citizen of the United States, and his father is an Italian citizen who has never been naturalized. They were married in the United States, and their marital relationship has never been terminated. Petitioner was born in Italy in 1906, while his parents were residing there temporarily, and his mother brought him to the United States later in the same year. He has since resided continuously in the United States, and has never been naturalized. Held: Petitioner is not a citizen of the United States.
xus00HAY
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9/21/2015 3:06:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
The Republicans are playing some kind of game with the media.
There seems to be all these fake candidates. Look this guy was born north of the border, he can't be president, no matter how much of a US citizen he is. Have you seen a republican candidate that you think can win the election? Sometime next year there will be a new candidate who looks good when compared to these guys
Berend
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9/22/2015 7:17:28 AM
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By law, if you are born outside the US with a parent who is a US citizen, you are also. Anyone who was born with a parent who is an American is also an American and generally have two citizenship unless they live on a base or otherwise denied. That is the law that is in effect and as such is legal.
xus00HAY
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9/22/2015 12:05:12 PM
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To be president you have to be born in the USA Being a US citizen and the child of citizens is not good enough.
FaustianJustice
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9/22/2015 1:36:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/22/2015 7:17:28 AM, Berend wrote:
By law, if you are born outside the US with a parent who is a US citizen, you are also. Anyone who was born with a parent who is an American is also an American and generally have two citizenship unless they live on a base or otherwise denied. That is the law that is in effect and as such is legal.

In terms of citizenship, yes. But what a "natural born" citizen is, however is subject to discussion. I would consider that to follow being born on US land/Territory. That is the most immediate way to establishing citizenship in the way of natural process.
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GeoLaureate8
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9/22/2015 5:03:35 PM
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At 9/21/2015 3:06:54 AM, xus00HAY wrote:
The Republicans are playing some kind of game with the media.
There seems to be all these fake candidates. Look this guy was born north of the border, he can't be president, no matter how much of a US citizen he is. Have you seen a republican candidate that you think can win the election? Sometime next year there will be a new candidate who looks good when compared to these guys

No. There will be no new candidates. The filing deadline for President is this month.
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Berend
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9/22/2015 7:42:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/22/2015 1:36:47 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 9/22/2015 7:17:28 AM, Berend wrote:
By law, if you are born outside the US with a parent who is a US citizen, you are also. Anyone who was born with a parent who is an American is also an American and generally have two citizenship unless they live on a base or otherwise denied. That is the law that is in effect and as such is legal.

In terms of citizenship, yes. But what a "natural born" citizen is, however is subject to discussion. I would consider that to follow being born on US land/Territory. That is the most immediate way to establishing citizenship in the way of natural process.

Yes, it is subject to discussion and can be taken how the reader sees it.