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10/4/2015 4:08:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I am prolife.

Really?!? I didn't realize!
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10/4/2015 4:09:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 4:08:13 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I am prolife.

Really?!? I didn't realize!

The sarcasm...lol...
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10/4/2015 4:18:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 4:08:13 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
I am prolife.

Really?!? I didn't realize!

LOL
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10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.
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10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 3:49:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?

Just ignore him, lol
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10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.
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10/5/2015 4:20:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:49:53 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?

Just ignore him, lol
You do not need to be rude. I have done nothing wrong.
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10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 4:37:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
LiberalProlifer
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10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.
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10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...
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10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.
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10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.
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10/5/2015 9:04:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 3:49:53 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?

Just ignore him, lol

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10/5/2015 10:32:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

LiberalProlifer, Yes, abortion kills a fetus. Now, move on.
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10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.
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10/6/2015 10:34:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.

I think it's absurd that a persons (an actual thinking, feeling, conscious) persons bodily autonomy is demanded to be given up for a few cells because "life" begins at conception.

Explain to me why something being designated "life" in general terms means the woman get no choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/6/2015 11:08:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 10:34:56 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.

I think it's absurd that a persons (an actual thinking, feeling, conscious) persons bodily autonomy is demanded to be given up for a few cells because "life" begins at conception.

Explain to me why something being designated "life" in general terms means the woman get no choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.

What about the baby's right to bodily autonomy? Abortion is selfish. If you don't want a baby, use contraception. The baby is not part of the mother. The baby has her own genetic code.
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10/6/2015 11:11:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 11:08:47 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 10:34:56 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.

I think it's absurd that a persons (an actual thinking, feeling, conscious) persons bodily autonomy is demanded to be given up for a few cells because "life" begins at conception.

Explain to me why something being designated "life" in general terms means the woman get no choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.

What about the baby's right to bodily autonomy? Abortion is selfish. If you don't want a baby, use contraception. The baby is not part of the mother. The baby has her own genetic code.

And when exactly does this "baby" begin to exist ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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10/6/2015 11:13:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I am conceding the point so you may move on. Abortion kills a fetus. A human fetus. A human fetus with its own DNA. A human fetus with its own DNA with a heartbeat.

What else do you want?
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10/6/2015 11:21:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 11:11:45 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 11:08:47 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 10:34:56 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.

I think it's absurd that a persons (an actual thinking, feeling, conscious) persons bodily autonomy is demanded to be given up for a few cells because "life" begins at conception.

Explain to me why something being designated "life" in general terms means the woman get no choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.

What about the baby's right to bodily autonomy? Abortion is selfish. If you don't want a baby, use contraception. The baby is not part of the mother. The baby has her own genetic code.

And when exactly does this "baby" begin to exist ?

Life begins at conception when the BABY has her own genetic code.
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10/6/2015 11:36:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/6/2015 11:21:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 11:11:45 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 11:08:47 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 10:34:56 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/6/2015 8:06:16 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/6/2015 6:30:34 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 9:02:33 PM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:09:47 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 5:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:55:21 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:49:27 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:43:15 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:40:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:36:43 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 4:19:04 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:46:58 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/5/2015 3:30:01 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
At 10/5/2015 2:55:01 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 10/4/2015 4:01:18 AM, LiberalProlifer wrote:
Where do you stand? I am prolife. http://www.cnn.com...

I might be willing to grant that no abortions should be allowed generally from some point based on ability to feel pain etc

But I think the claim that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion from the moment of conception requires all sorts of mental gymnastics that can't be defended.
If a woman does not want a baby, she is free to use contraception or give the baby up for adoption, but abortion is murder.

You want to back that up ?
Prove me wrong. It is well known that abortion kills a living child. Google "aborted baby" and see for yourself.

Killing and murder are not the same thing.

Do you think that ANY abortion (except where womans life is in danger) is murder ?

You have the right to your opinion. Abortion murders babies.

So it's just that simple ? just keeping screaming abortion murders babies.

How about abortion in the EARLY stages of pregnancy does not kill babies ? Ergo you can allow woman to have abortions in those such cases since it doesn't violate your no killing babies rule eh ?

Win/win right ?
It is a fact that abortion murders babies. This is what you support: https://www.google.com...

H*ly f*cking sh*t balls, abortion murder babies, abortion murder babies................

Humor me with something, and I want you to respond to this and not just say ABORTION MURDERS BABIES.

Lets assume that we have technology to perform an abortion 24 hours after conception.

Would the destruction of this organism constitute "murder" in your view ?
Killing a fetus is murder.

Cool story bro, say you would like to answer my question about an abortion 24 hours after conception ?

Your fetus comment doesn't do you any good here................."In human development, a fetus (/G2;fiH0;təs/; plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization"
I have answered your question. It is murder to kill the unborn at any time unless the pregnancy is ectopic.

And is there a reason as to why we should regard abortion at say 24 hours or a 3 day embryo as murder ? Sure you can scream all day that all abortion is murder, and I can scream back well actually not all abortions are murder.

So...........................got a justification there ?
Life begins at conception, that is why.

I think it's absurd that a persons (an actual thinking, feeling, conscious) persons bodily autonomy is demanded to be given up for a few cells because "life" begins at conception.

Explain to me why something being designated "life" in general terms means the woman get no choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.

What about the baby's right to bodily autonomy? Abortion is selfish. If you don't want a baby, use contraception. The baby is not part of the mother. The baby has her own genetic code.

And when exactly does this "baby" begin to exist ?

Life begins at conception when the BABY has her own genetic code.

Well I see your error. You use the term "baby" in a much more different way than the person on the street thinks of a baby.

But of course you have to do that, cause without that lie your whole arguments crumbles.

Not a baby........http://www.advancedfertility.com...

So what matters more to you here ? addressing a deception ? or doing what ever is necessary to see that woman get no choice with a pregnancy from the moment of conception ?

Your move.........
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12