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10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.
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10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?
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10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?
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10/16/2015 4:31:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

Mourning is an exaggeration. The point is that media is making it look like the the Palestinians who died were the real victims, when really they were the cause of the outbreak to begin with. It really always is the Palestinians who start sh1t. If memory serves, A Palestinian who murdered a few Israeli civilians in Gaza (or somewhere) was ultimately responsible for the spiraling deaths that led to 2014's summer war.
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10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.
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10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?
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10/16/2015 4:43:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
And the other thing is that people are so enamoured with numbers that they forget about every other relevant detail. Namely, when they see that more Palestinians died than Israelis, they fail to realize that Palestinians are caught in their actions and neutralized before they could kill their victim(s). Or, simply - in the case of war - that Israel can actually defend its citizens.
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10/16/2015 4:46:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'd agree that the large majority of media outlets are biased and *only* give a predominantly one-sided perspective.

For example, if Palestinians are killed, the *reason* on as to why it happens is often completely overlooked or distorted in some way. Additionally I'm amazed by how much the western media attempts to excuse the behaviour of Palestinians that kill or indeed attempt to kill Israeli civilians. The BBC more or less says that they are perfectly normal individuals who are simply expressing their frustration at living in supposedly 'occupied territory', which I think is hugely irresponsible if not rather disgraceful.

Of course, Israel is by no means perfect and it perhaps could use more diplomatic measures in dealing with the Palestinians. But this conflict has been going on for around 90 years now (since the British were in control of Palestine) and there is no easy solution. Especially with a people that are not really prepared to compromise, an indication of that is the fact that the Palestinians have (on more than one occasion) been proposed peace deals and offered sizable portions of land.

Regarding the media again, another point is the visual propaganda that they constantly put forward, such as photographs and videos of Palestinians seemingly appearing as a victim. It's highly manipulative and does nothing to properly educate people about the conflict.
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10/16/2015 4:47:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

Probably articles like this http://www.haaretz.com...
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10/16/2015 4:47:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

I certainly wasn't saying it was good ;) More so that it just receives a lot of coverage.
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10/16/2015 4:49:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:47:28 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

Probably articles like this http://www.haaretz.com...

I sure don't see that as an example of media over playing the Palestinian deaths.
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10/16/2015 4:50:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:49:58 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:47:28 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

Probably articles like this http://www.haaretz.com...

I sure don't see that as an example of media over playing the Palestinian deaths.

I didn't make the OP. I just went and found the first example of a horribly biased article I could find and used that.
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10/16/2015 4:52:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:50:56 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:49:58 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:47:28 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

Probably articles like this http://www.haaretz.com...

I sure don't see that as an example of media over playing the Palestinian deaths.

I didn't make the OP. I just went and found the first example of a horribly biased article I could find and used that.

I don't see that as having any real bias.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.
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10/16/2015 4:53:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:52:27 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:50:56 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:49:58 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:47:28 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

Probably articles like this http://www.haaretz.com...

I sure don't see that as an example of media over playing the Palestinian deaths.

I didn't make the OP. I just went and found the first example of a horribly biased article I could find and used that.

I don't see that as having any real bias.

Really? Do they name or give the age of one Israeli soldier or citizen who died or was injured? It's pretty clear which side they want you to sympathize with.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.
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10/16/2015 4:54:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

http://www.nytimes.com...

Done.
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10/16/2015 4:56:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago

Really? Do they name or give the age of one Israeli soldier or citizen who died or was injured? It's pretty clear which side they want you to sympathize with.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.

Perhaps you get more content with a Subscription. I don't see any names - Israelis or Palestinians.
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10/16/2015 4:57:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:56:11 PM, TBR wrote:

Really? Do they name or give the age of one Israeli soldier or citizen who died or was injured? It's pretty clear which side they want you to sympathize with.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.

Perhaps you get more content with a Subscription. I don't see any names - Israelis or Palestinians.

Can you not see the whole article?
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10/16/2015 4:58:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:54:47 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

http://www.nytimes.com...

Done.

Seriously? This sounds like the NYT setting the record straight.
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10/16/2015 4:59:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:57:44 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:56:11 PM, TBR wrote:

Really? Do they name or give the age of one Israeli soldier or citizen who died or was injured? It's pretty clear which side they want you to sympathize with.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.

Perhaps you get more content with a Subscription. I don't see any names - Israelis or Palestinians.

Can you not see the whole article?

No. It is truncated with no way (without subscription) to view.
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10/16/2015 5:00:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:59:20 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:57:44 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:56:11 PM, TBR wrote:

Really? Do they name or give the age of one Israeli soldier or citizen who died or was injured? It's pretty clear which side they want you to sympathize with.

I'm not saying its not there, I am asking for examples.

Perhaps you get more content with a Subscription. I don't see any names - Israelis or Palestinians.

Can you not see the whole article?

No. It is truncated with no way (without subscription) to view.

Huh. I don't have a subscription and I saw the whole thing.
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10/16/2015 5:03:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 4:58:21 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:54:47 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

http://www.nytimes.com...

Done.

Seriously? This sounds like the NYT setting the record straight.

Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents
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10/16/2015 5:04:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:03:45 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:58:21 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:54:47 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:43:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:38:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:28:00 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:24:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 4:21:01 PM, ben2974 wrote:
After roughly a dozen attacks by Palestinians on Israelis in the past week, the media has made sure that everyone mourn the Palestinians who died . . . WHILE TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS OOOOOPS.

Fkin ridiculous.

Where are your links?

They're referring to actual events--if not in the most descriptive way. As far as I'm aware the situation between Israel and Palestine is quite well-reported in the U.S? Or perhaps not?

Skewed more than well-reported.

All I am asking for is any example of this complaint. If it is so obvious, should be able to find at-least one, right?

http://www.nytimes.com...

Done.

Seriously? This sounds like the NYT setting the record straight.

Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Not all incidents, but many.
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10/16/2015 5:05:46 PM
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Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Well, the article does point the the government messing with story's, but not "the media". unless you count Facebook and YouTube as "the media".
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10/16/2015 5:25:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:05:46 PM, TBR wrote:
Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Well, the article does point the the government messing with story's, but not "the media". unless you count Facebook and YouTube as "the media".

http://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com...

This is just in.
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10/16/2015 5:27:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:25:32 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 5:05:46 PM, TBR wrote:
Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Well, the article does point the the government messing with story's, but not "the media". unless you count Facebook and YouTube as "the media".

http://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com...

This is just in.

Americans are stupid, we don't know what the hell is going on way over there.
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10/16/2015 5:31:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:25:32 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 5:05:46 PM, TBR wrote:
Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Well, the article does point the the government messing with story's, but not "the media". unless you count Facebook and YouTube as "the media".

http://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com...

This is just in.

OK. Just what is your problem? The eye-witness puts a ton of caveats out with his report - basically saying "I don't know". Guy in studio (with video at hand) immediately clarifies and corrects. This is a HUGE jump to "the media hates Israel"
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10/16/2015 5:38:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:31:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/16/2015 5:25:32 PM, ben2974 wrote:
At 10/16/2015 5:05:46 PM, TBR wrote:
Well that's a point to be made. This article shows you that journalists (an worse - governments!) are intentionally trying to skew information, making one side look worse than it actually is. The main point behind this article can be applied to all incidents

Well, the article does point the the government messing with story's, but not "the media". unless you count Facebook and YouTube as "the media".

http://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com...

This is just in.

OK. Just what is your problem? The eye-witness puts a ton of caveats out with his report - basically saying "I don't know". Guy in studio (with video at hand) immediately clarifies and corrects. This is a HUGE jump to "the media hates Israel"

He's committing to false conjecture on live television. He's either reporting on something he truly knows nothing about (in which he shouldn't say anything at all) or he's bold enough to create a believable story off of available "facts."
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10/16/2015 5:43:29 PM
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OK. Just what is your problem? The eye-witness puts a ton of caveats out with his report - basically saying "I don't know". Guy in studio (with video at hand) immediately clarifies and corrects. This is a HUGE jump to "the media hates Israel"

He's committing to false conjecture on live television. He's either reporting on something he truly knows nothing about (in which he shouldn't say anything at all) or he's bold enough to create a believable story off of available "facts."

Look. This is open to interpretation, but... He was reporting with only the information he had, and preface each with a disclaimer. As quick as the better detail could be reported (not minutes into the report) it was.

"The Media" has issues, no doubt. In this case, I think its a case of you being too close to the situation, or having a bias to start with.
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10/16/2015 6:05:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/16/2015 5:43:29 PM, TBR wrote:
OK. Just what is your problem? The eye-witness puts a ton of caveats out with his report - basically saying "I don't know". Guy in studio (with video at hand) immediately clarifies and corrects. This is a HUGE jump to "the media hates Israel"

He's committing to false conjecture on live television. He's either reporting on something he truly knows nothing about (in which he shouldn't say anything at all) or he's bold enough to create a believable story off of available "facts."

Look. This is open to interpretation, but... He was reporting with only the information he had, and preface each with a disclaimer. As quick as the better detail could be reported (not minutes into the report) it was.

"The Media" has issues, no doubt. In this case, I think its a case of you being too close to the situation, or having a bias to start with.

But why would a reporter report aftermath details conclusively (it would then make sense that someone in the news room felt the need to jump in to correct an otherwise false report. If it really was limited info, that news room guy would have no problem with the reporter concluding things with the info the reporter had) That's a major point in the issue with all this. A lot of reports often focus on the end result, not on how it got there and why it started, etc etc. Those pieces of information are crucial to developing a full and unbiased story. Without the whole picture, we'll always be misled. Also, apparently, this reporter has had various bias reportings in the past.

On another note, yes I am pro-Israel. I believe in Israel and their peaceful intentions. There is a lot of clear evidence suggesting they have the best intentions (from targeted strikes, healing wounded enemies, taking preventative measures against civilian casualties, etc).

The only thing that has me completely flustered is the governments west bank settlement agenda. It's tearing Israel foreign relations and just straight up angering the PLO.
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10/16/2015 6:21:47 PM
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But why would a reporter report aftermath details conclusively (it would then make sense that someone in the news room felt the need to jump in to correct an otherwise false report. If it really was limited info, that news room guy would have no problem with the reporter concluding things with the info the reporter had) That's a major point in the issue with all this. A lot of reports often focus on the end result, not on how it got there and why it started, etc etc. Those pieces of information are crucial to developing a full and unbiased story. Without the whole picture, we'll always be misled. Also, apparently, this reporter has had various bias reportings in the past.

1) He just didn't report conclusively. He said things like "as best we know" "I did not see" etc. These are anything BUT conclusive.
2) You are conjecturing. Do you have those "other" incidents to look at?

On another note, yes I am pro-Israel. I believe in Israel and their peaceful intentions. There is a lot of clear evidence suggesting they have the best intentions (from targeted strikes, healing wounded enemies, taking preventative measures against civilian casualties, etc).
Fine. No problem with that. Just starting with "the media hates Israel" is not showing non-basis


The only thing that has me completely flustered is the governments west bank settlement agenda. It's tearing Israel foreign relations and just straight up angering the PLO.

Yup