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Immigration is destroying Europe.

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11/11/2015 2:15:39 AM
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Most migrants aren"t even from Syria, and have not been affected by the Syrian civil war. They are pretending to be Syrian in order to get to Western Europe.According to the Serbian boarder police 90% of those arriving in Macedonia claim they are Syrian even though they have no documents to prove it. The chief of the European Union border agency Frontex said that trafficking in fake Syrian passports has increased. According to the EU only 21% of migrants coming to Europe are Syrian. http://ec.europa.eu...... Many others who are Syrian or are fleeing conflict in another country aren"t refugees. A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. They were refugees when they left Syria and came to Turkey. They were safe in Turkey but have left and are coming to Western Europe for a higher standard of living. This makes them economic migrants. 72 % of the migrants are men. 15 % are women and 13% are children
2. Economics. Many immigrants come to European countries to abuse their welfare system. http://www.infowars.com......
Economist Tino Sanandaji, immigrant, told Wente, that the "generous" country is facing huge problems, particularly when it comes to employment and crime
"There has been a lack of integration among non-European refugees," [Sanandaji] told me. Forty-eight per cent of immigrants of working age don"t work, he said. Even after 15 years in Sweden, their employment rates reach only about 60 per cent. Sweden has the biggest employment gap in Europe between natives and non-natives.
In Sweden, where equality is revered, inequality is now entrenched. Forty-two per cent of the long-term unemployed are immigrants, Mr. Sanandaji said. Fifty-eight per cent of welfare payments go to immigrants. Forty-five per cent of children with low test scores are immigrants. Immigrants on average earn less than 40 per cent of Swedes. The majority of people charged with murder, rape and robbery are either first- or second-generation immigrants. "Since the 1980s, Sweden has had the largest increase in inequality of any country in the OECD," Mr. Sanandaji said.
3. Education Another point that Mr. Sanadaji brings up is education. 45 per cent of children in Sweden who do poorly on tests are immigrants. https://en.wikipedia.org...... according to Wikipedia 86 per cent of men in Syria and 73 percent of women in Syria and 79 per cent of the general population in Syria are literate. So European school kids will have to be in class rooms with other children who don"t speak their language, many of whom can"t even read or write"which will obviously be detrimental to the education systems in European countries. http://www.breitbart.com... The German interior minister recently announced his plan to drop educational standards in the country to help migrants get into school or find a training place

4. Assimilation . Taking in thousands and thousands of people from a different country, with a different religion, a different culture and a different language all within a year is committing cultural suicide. When so many people come in a short period of time assimilation is nearly impossible. When you come to a country you assimilate to their standards, not the other way around. This is why many people were bothered when German school girls were told not to wear miniskirts to avoid attacks from migrants. http://www.infowars.com...... http://www.i24news.tv...... When Hungarian minster Viktor Orban made this point about assimilation and cultural preservation he was called a xenophobe. When Israel and Kuwait"s prime ministers made the same pints they were not shamed or called xenophobic. Appearing on Middle Eastern television, a Kuwaiti politician stated, "In the end you cannot accept people from a different ethnicity, culture and environment."http://www.infowars.com...... There appears to be a double standard where European countries who have taken more people than they can handle are shamed for not taking enough but non European countries who"ve taken in 0 migrants aren"t shamed.
5. Crime. While most of the migrants have been peaceful, many were caught on camera assaulting Europeans. In one case they shouted "alauhu akbar f you" Also an eyewitness at the Italy-Austrian border she saw an elderly Italian woman grabbed by her hair and pulled from her car by a group of "aggressive young men" who wanted to steal the car to get to Germany, while others threw excrement at bystanders. Other compilation videos show African migrants tearing down traffic lights, eating people up and attacking stores. http://www.infowars.com....... Migrants were also caught on camera throwing rocks at Hungarianshttp://www.infowars.com....... Another video shows migrants in Macedonia refusing to take water from Red Cross workers. Another video migrants at a train station in Hungary throwing bottled water onto train tracks that was being handed out by police. Another video shows migrants robbing a Hungarian man who was attempting to equally distribute donated giftshttp://www.infowars.com....... In a Danish refugee camp near Copenhagen an arab man stabbed a police officerhttps://www.washingtonpost.com...... In the town of Kassel-Calden, near Frankfurt, Germany, groups of Pakistani and Albanian migrants attacked each other."Between 60 and 70 people were involved. They attacked each other with clubs and threw things at each other," a police spokesman reported, according to the Independent. http://www.independent.co.uk...... At an asylum center near Leipzig 200 Syrian and Afghan migrants attacked each other with table legs, bed frames and sticks after an argument over use of a bathroom. German police union official, Rainer Wendt, said violence between groups of illegal migrants in German hostels is common "We"ve been seeing this violence for weeks and even months," Wendt said . "Groups join forces based on ethnicity, religion or clan structures and attack each other with knives and even weapons they have made themselves." "Sunnis fight Shiites, there are Salafists of varying kinds" Women are being forced to wear veils. Men are forced to pray. Islamists want to impose their values."
http://en.europeonline-magazine.eu...... German police in Hemer reported that an Algerian Muslim had attacked an Eritrean Christian and his pregnant wife with a bottle. The pregnant woman was hospitalized http://www.presseportal.de......
In a refugee area in Suhl, Germany, an Afghan man who had torn pages from a Koran was attack by a Syrian mob. The riot resulted in , 17 people being injured, including six police officera and members of the press. The mob ransacked the refugee center office and, the following day, smashed car windows and vandalized property. On the Greek Island of Lesbos , a group of 200 illegal immigrants attacked police and threw stones after they were not allowed to board a ferry to the mainland.http://www.dailymail.co.uk......
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1.http://www.infowars.com... A nineteen year-old girl at Magdeburg University was gang raped by migrants. In Ellwangen, Germany migrants have been defecating on peoples gardens, walking into stores and taking stuff, rioting during the town church service, sexually harassing young girls, and even attempting to rape women. http://www.infowars.com...
A girl in Kent says she was gang raped by Syrian migrants http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.breitbart.com...... a female no borders activist was raped in a shower by Sudanese migrants. This incident is not nearly as bad as the one that happened in Germany a couple weeks before where a 7 year old German white gir
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11/11/2015 2:21:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2015 2:15:39 AM, Dilara wrote:

WHOA! Nice. Give me a couple of days, I'll try to find a chance to respond here. ;)
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11/11/2015 2:38:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2015 2:25:59 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/11/2015 2:23:49 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Lol. Not really sure where to start in this.
I rolled number 5 for you.

I typed this out before, but you helped.
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11/11/2015 5:50:30 AM
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Infowars is terrible
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11/11/2015 6:17:24 AM
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At 11/11/2015 5:50:30 AM, 16kadams wrote:
Infowars is terrible

Yes-- contrary to the name's implication, it doesn't so much fight a war with information as it does fight one against it.
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11/11/2015 5:30:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2015 2:38:12 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 11/11/2015 2:25:59 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/11/2015 2:23:49 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Lol. Not really sure where to start in this.
I rolled number 5 for you.

I typed this out before, but you helped.

Yes i agree that the huge wave of migration from the middle east and africa has had a detrimental effect on europe and is a major threat to the future of its society, culture and economy. I am from the UK which is fortunate enough to have a government that refuses to take any migrants apart from the few who risk their lives walking through the channel tunnel, sneaking into lorries or bribing lorry drivers to let them in. The sea is a great way to prevent migration as immigrants have to take significant risks to cross it. Therefore few people attempt to get here and the few that do although expensive and detrimental to the country are not a big problem. However in much of south east Europe migrants are causing chaos stampeding through areas at an unstoppable rate in huge numbers. Countries have no choice but to let people through their borders as they are not able to cope with the huge numbers of asylum seekers who want to get to Germany. The situation of Germany is particularly bad. The amount of immigrants arriving will almost certainly damage its economy, culture and society. There is no way it can effectively amalgamate 1 million refugees into its population. The points u made about low employment, linguistic skills, motivation and education levels are entirely correct. In my view it is essential that Europe acts in a United way to tackle the problem and prevent future migration.

Here are my ideas for how to solve the problem.

1. Bashar al Assad, his family and the regime in general are clearly far from the ideal government. However it seems to me logical that with Islamic state as the alternative and Russian supporting Assad militarily Europe should pursuade the us to change its strategy in Syria to supporting Assads regime. Reinstalling Assad to full control Wil weaken Islamicstate and al Qaeda and hopefully end the war in the the country. Ending the war will significantly reduce the number of people leaving the country.

2. European countries need to establish a border defence force in the Mediterranean sea and along its southern coast. All migrants intercepted should be arrested and deported back to their country of origin. Harsh I know but if people realize entry is impossible they will stop coming. The reason many come at the moment is they can just claim to be Syrian and get easy access to western Europe.

3. Arrest all migrants currently without permission to be in Europe and deport them back to their country of origin.

4. End the process of giving visas to people claiming to be refugees already in the continent. If somebody wants to come to Europe they should go through official application processes to come here legally.

5. Increase police focus on detecting and arresting illegal migrants.

6. Encourage people who want to enter Europe to use legal methods to apply for visas, citizenship or asylum.

I am not anti immigration. It's just my view that allowing a few people to migrate from one country to another does not solve anything. Investment and resources should instead be focused on improving conditions in the areas these people are from. Whether it be ending a conflict, reducing poverty or tackling extremism. A country should only in my view allow migration that effects it in a positive way. Migrants who help a country should be welcomed but it's simply illogical to welcome unskilled people with no money who are unable to communicate with the native population.