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Maccabee
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11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

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11/17/2015 1:53:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Against. Criminals don't obey laws. Most people with guns are the good guys. People will be good or bad regardless of the tools they use. It's a constitutional right.
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11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?
Maccabee
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11/17/2015 2:46:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?

Yes to both of those. Anybody could be considered a felon nowadays. If we execute murderers, rapist, and kidnappers and those who attempt to do such, make thieves pay from double to quadruple of what they stolen, and make victimless crimes misdemeanors. With children, it was not too long ago when children would bring there rifles to school and after school they will go hunting.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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11/17/2015 2:48:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Gun control =/= Against the right to keep and bare arms.

When we can start recognizing what we are actually talking about perhaps we can have a productive discussion.
TBR
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11/17/2015 4:54:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 2:48:57 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Gun control =/= Against the right to keep and bare arms.

When we can start recognizing what we are actually talking about perhaps we can have a productive discussion.

Yup. That is the point, right.
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11/17/2015 6:18:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 2:48:57 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Gun control =/= Against the right to keep and bare arms.

When we can start recognizing what we are actually talking about perhaps we can have a productive discussion.

I hear you there, but the ideas that walk the line between control and rights will never get mentioned on a large scale. It seems only extremism on both sides garners support.
TBR
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11/17/2015 2:40:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 6:18:44 AM, Mr_Anderson wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:48:57 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Gun control =/= Against the right to keep and bare arms.

When we can start recognizing what we are actually talking about perhaps we can have a productive discussion.

I hear you there, but the ideas that walk the line between control and rights will never get mentioned on a large scale. It seems only extremism on both sides garners support.

They get talked about all the time. They get drowned out with "they want to take all the gunns"
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11/17/2015 3:19:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 2:46:19 AM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?

Yes to both of those. Anybody could be considered a felon nowadays. If we execute murderers, rapist, and kidnappers and those who attempt to do such, make thieves pay from double to quadruple of what they stolen, and make victimless crimes misdemeanors. With children, it was not too long ago when children would bring there rifles to school and after school they will go hunting.

I am asking honestly. You would like any and all existing restrictions eliminated? I can put a gun store next to the jail, and offer a prisoner special? Come in with release paperwork for a free box of ammo with any handgun purchase?
Objectivity
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11/17/2015 3:48:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 3:19:08 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:46:19 AM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?

Yes to both of those. Anybody could be considered a felon nowadays. If we execute murderers, rapist, and kidnappers and those who attempt to do such, make thieves pay from double to quadruple of what they stolen, and make victimless crimes misdemeanors. With children, it was not too long ago when children would bring there rifles to school and after school they will go hunting.

I am asking honestly. You would like any and all existing restrictions eliminated? I can put a gun store next to the jail, and offer a prisoner special? Come in with release paperwork for a free box of ammo with any handgun purchase?

I think most (rational) people agree certain people, like violent felons, shouldn't be allowed to own guns. But when it comes to what guns can and can't be restricted, especially since you said you agree that the constitution should be respected in an earlier discussion, that Heller already resolved the issue of what gun control is constitutional and what gun control isn't?
Maccabee
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11/17/2015 4:22:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 3:19:08 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:46:19 AM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?

Yes to both of those. Anybody could be considered a felon nowadays. If we execute murderers, rapist, and kidnappers and those who attempt to do such, make thieves pay from double to quadruple of what they stolen, and make victimless crimes misdemeanors. With children, it was not too long ago when children would bring there rifles to school and after school they will go hunting.

I am asking honestly. You would like any and all existing restrictions eliminated? I can put a gun store next to the jail, and offer a prisoner special? Come in with release paperwork for a free box of ammo with any handgun purchase?

Of course not. But violent criminals should be punished violently. Actually, there's little need for prisons. You either fine them, beat them, or execute them depending on the crime.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
TBR
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11/17/2015 4:48:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 3:48:16 PM, Objectivity wrote:
At 11/17/2015 3:19:08 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:46:19 AM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:25:10 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Are you against all gun control? Ex-felons can get guns? Children?

Yes to both of those. Anybody could be considered a felon nowadays. If we execute murderers, rapist, and kidnappers and those who attempt to do such, make thieves pay from double to quadruple of what they stolen, and make victimless crimes misdemeanors. With children, it was not too long ago when children would bring there rifles to school and after school they will go hunting.

I am asking honestly. You would like any and all existing restrictions eliminated? I can put a gun store next to the jail, and offer a prisoner special? Come in with release paperwork for a free box of ammo with any handgun purchase?

I think most (rational) people agree certain people, like violent felons, shouldn't be allowed to own guns. But when it comes to what guns can and can't be restricted, especially since you said you agree that the constitution should be respected in an earlier discussion, that Heller already resolved the issue of what gun control is constitutional and what gun control isn't?

Agreed. You know my stance, I am probing this question is all.

I don't like the narrative that "gun control = no guns". This hinders honest discussion
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11/18/2015 2:01:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

I support Gun Control, and also support the right to bear arms. Just because I support common sense regulations like universal background checks, doesn't mean I want to take away guns from law abiding people.
"In Guns We Trust" Tajshar2k
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11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM
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At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.
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11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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11/18/2015 6:38:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.
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11/18/2015 9:02:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 6:38:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

Crimes rose in UK when they banned carrying of firearms. We have an unalienable right to keep and bare arms.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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11/19/2015 1:23:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 9:02:02 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:38:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

Crimes rose in UK when they banned carrying of firearms. We have an unalienable right to keep and bare arms.

Crime rates fall here every year. How is carrying a loaded gun good for society? I acknowledge I'm used to a different culture but as I see it its simply a case of the uk being further down the line in terms of civilization and development then the usa. It's true people like what they are used too but it's interesting no debate about gun control happens in the UK. It's a settled matter. In the USA however it's a divisive issue. I think the presence of guns in society sends out the wrong message. Ultimately they are dangerous weapons designed to kill people. It's just not sensible for people to carry them round. It's like carrying a grenade or an axe. I oppose uncontrolled gun ownership and oppose the carrying of guns in public places.
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11/19/2015 1:39:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/17/2015 6:18:44 AM, Mr_Anderson wrote:
At 11/17/2015 2:48:57 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Gun control =/= Against the right to keep and bare arms.

When we can start recognizing what we are actually talking about perhaps we can have a productive discussion.

I hear you there, but the ideas that walk the line between control and rights will never get mentioned on a large scale. It seems only extremism on both sides garners support.

I really hope your joking here, because most of the gun control debate revolves around simple background checks, you know, to make sure the guy buying a full auto AR with a drum magazine isn't a serial rapist.
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11/19/2015 1:47:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Last I checked, the Second Amendment clarified that the intent of firearms was to form a militia in the case of a tyrannical government- not just protection from home invaders. Submitting our guns would quite literally be submitting ourselves to government's authority and manipulation. And that is how we become a police state.
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11/19/2015 3:34:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
http://gunssavelives.net...
Guns are used hundreds of thousands of times a year to save lives. Criminals will get them anyways and will use them against defenseless law abiding citizens if we ban them. Look at what happened in Paris. They have gun control but terrorists got them anyways.
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11/19/2015 3:35:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/18/2015 6:38:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

But you guys have so much violent crime.
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11/19/2015 3:45:03 AM
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At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com...

Its pretty clear: gun regulation works. No question about it.
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11/19/2015 3:47:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/19/2015 3:34:25 AM, Dilara wrote:
http://gunssavelives.net...
Guns are used hundreds of thousands of times a year to save lives. Criminals will get them anyways and will use them against defenseless law abiding citizens if we ban them. Look at what happened in Paris. They have gun control but terrorists got them anyways.

Then why have laws at all?

I mean, people murder people all the time. Really, what we ought to do is simply turn around and legalize murder.

because really, if murder was legal, no one would murder for fear of being murdered!

*that was sarcasm.*
Thank you for voting!
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11/19/2015 4:40:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/19/2015 3:47:43 AM, TheHitchslap wrote:
At 11/19/2015 3:34:25 AM, Dilara wrote:
http://gunssavelives.net...
Guns are used hundreds of thousands of times a year to save lives. Criminals will get them anyways and will use them against defenseless law abiding citizens if we ban them. Look at what happened in Paris. They have gun control but terrorists got them anyways.

Then why have laws at all?

I mean, people murder people all the time. Really, what we ought to do is simply turn around and legalize murder.

because really, if murder was legal, no one would murder for fear of being murdered!

*that was sarcasm.*
Gun laws only take guns from law abiding citizens. Take a look at Chicago and its crime rate.
Scripture, facts, stats, and logic is how I argue

Evolutionism is a religion, not science

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

"If guns are the cause of crimes then aren't matches the cause of arson?" D. Boys

"If the death penalty is government sanctioned killing then isn't inprisonment is government sanction kidnapping?" D. B

"Why do you trust the government with machine guns but not honest citizens?" D. B

All those who are pro-death (abortion) is already born
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11/19/2015 4:44:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
That's actually true. The only person who can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. If we give all of the teachers at schools a gun, then people won't try to shoot schools. They only shoot schools now because they're easy targets.
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11/19/2015 8:47:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/19/2015 3:35:24 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:38:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/18/2015 6:00:52 PM, Maccabee wrote:
At 11/18/2015 2:13:42 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 11/17/2015 12:08:37 AM, Maccabee wrote:
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

But you guys have so much violent crime.

I wouldent say the way to reduce violent crime is to take away gun laws and allow everyone to carry guns around. The only people pleased about a change to that law would be violent gangs and criminals.
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11/19/2015 12:15:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

But you guys have so much violent crime.

I wouldent say the way to reduce violent crime is to take away gun laws and allow everyone to carry guns around. The only people pleased about a change to that law would be violent gangs and criminals.

Again, how does that make sense? They do that anyways, a criminal by its nature isn't concerned with the law.

Honestly, please explain to me how a criminal, some one interested in using force of arms with which to gain compliance for self enrichment wants their victim to have legal recourse to be armed.
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11/19/2015 12:17:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm for the right to keep and bare arms. Guns have been used in defense about 1 million times per year. Usually without firing a shot. I also think that just like driver's licenses, carry permits should be recognized everywhere in the USA.

Quite simply it is essential for gun licences to be issued for everyone wishing to possess a firearm and accurate records kept of the ownership and location of firearms.

And hitler thought the same thing. How else did they got rid of all the guns if he didn't knew who owned them?

I live in the UK where a system is in place where you have to apply for a gun licence showing what you want it for and have to renew it every three years. Medical and mental health checks are made as well to insure a person is safe to be trusted with a firearm. It's a good system. A person with a licence is allowed to supervise someone without a licence while using a gun but has to take responsibility to ensure the person without a licence uses it safely and appropriately. Records are also kept about where guns are stored so police can find them if needed. Guns have to be kept in locked gun cabinets when not in use. It is illegal to carry a firearm in public place without a legitimate reason. In the uk everyone is happy with the laws including gun users and people with generally right wing political views like myself.

But you guys have so much violent crime.

I wouldent say the way to reduce violent crime is to take away gun laws and allow everyone to carry guns around. The only people pleased about a change to that law would be violent gangs and criminals.

Ignore my reply, I feel as though I misread your post, apologies.
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