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SuperRobotWars
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9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Should children be the ones who vote on any policy that deals with the environment because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.
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9/29/2010 6:49:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
More important: future debt. Who's going to have to pay it? People who currently can't vote!
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9/29/2010 6:51:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:49:52 PM, mongoose wrote:
More important: future debt. Who's going to have to pay it? People who currently can't vote!
Following the OP, fetuses should be able to vote on taxes.
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lovelife
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9/29/2010 6:53:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:51:13 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:49:52 PM, mongoose wrote:
More important: future debt. Who's going to have to pay it? People who currently can't vote!
Following the OP, fetuses should be able to vote on taxes.

Then they'd vote on higher taxes for abortions I'm sure.
But no the OP makes a semi-valid point I think. I'm not entirely sure if I should laugh or agree...
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9/29/2010 6:58:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:53:39 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:51:13 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:49:52 PM, mongoose wrote:
More important: future debt. Who's going to have to pay it? People who currently can't vote!
Following the OP, fetuses should be able to vote on taxes.
Then they'd vote on higher taxes for abortions I'm sure.
But no the OP makes a semi-valid point I think. I'm not entirely sure if I should laugh or agree...
It's entirely invalid:
-Children are not competent to vote.
-The majority has no right to govern something it doesn't own.
-Not every environmental issue is concerns the future.
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lovelife
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9/29/2010 7:02:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:58:53 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:53:39 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:51:13 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:49:52 PM, mongoose wrote:
More important: future debt. Who's going to have to pay it? People who currently can't vote!
Following the OP, fetuses should be able to vote on taxes.
Then they'd vote on higher taxes for abortions I'm sure.
But no the OP makes a semi-valid point I think. I'm not entirely sure if I should laugh or agree...
It's entirely invalid:
-Children are not competent to vote.
-The majority has no right to govern something it doesn't own.
-Not every environmental issue is concerns the future.

Which is most of why I feel I should laugh but also its a good point because I don't want to have to live with things others decide just cause it doesn't affect them. Like NCLB is BS and I want to be able to vote that out. then again most kids would see it as good until its put in effect...I still want it removed.
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9/29/2010 7:04:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 7:02:35 PM, lovelife wrote:
I don't want to have to live with things others decide just cause it doesn't affect them.

Back to my initial response, that there shouldn't be a vote over this issue at all.
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lovelife
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9/29/2010 8:09:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 7:04:47 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 7:02:35 PM, lovelife wrote:
I don't want to have to live with things others decide just cause it doesn't affect them.

Back to my initial response, that there shouldn't be a vote over this issue at all.

Then what happens?
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9/29/2010 8:12:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Anyone that votes is not educated enough to vote.
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9/30/2010 8:29:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Should children be the ones who vote on any policy that deals with the environment because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.

Yes. But they should also be the ones to vote on how much of their incomes (ie. their time and life) they willing to have confiscated by the fed to pay for their parents' and grandparents' foolish spending habits.
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9/30/2010 8:36:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 8:09:18 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 9/29/2010 7:04:47 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/29/2010 7:02:35 PM, lovelife wrote:
I don't want to have to live with things others decide just cause it doesn't affect them.
Back to my initial response, that there shouldn't be a vote over this issue at all.
Then what happens?

Liability. Court system. Arbitration.
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USAPitBull63
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9/30/2010 11:53:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Should children be the ones who vote on any policy that deals with the environment because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.

Legal adults inherit this rock, too. And depending on age gap, they get it first.

Plus, children are driven by emotions even more so than adults. Not good for voting.
lovelife
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10/1/2010 7:47:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/30/2010 11:53:32 PM, USAPitBull63 wrote:
At 9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Should children be the ones who vote on any policy that deals with the environment because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.

Legal adults inherit this rock, too. And depending on age gap, they get it first.

Plus, children are driven by emotions even more so than adults. Not good for voting.

I turn 18, 4 days after election day, I should be allowed to vote. If you are a legal adult that must pay taxes and whatnot anytime in the 4 years, you should be allowed to vote. Otherwise you shouldn't have to pay taxes or anything until you are 22.
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USAPitBull63
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10/2/2010 3:00:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/1/2010 7:47:33 AM, lovelife wrote:

If you are a legal adult that must pay taxes and whatnot anytime in the 4 years, you should be allowed to vote. Otherwise you shouldn't have to pay taxes or anything until you are 22.

I applaud the spirit of your comment. But then again, if not voting could curb taxation, that might cripple the democratic/representative republican process itself.

Nevertheless, kudos for already thinking of ways to make taxation equitable---other than just taxing (certain) people more. :)
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10/2/2010 4:50:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Should children be the ones who vote on any policy that deals with the environment because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.:

They can form opinions, I would encourage that. But children are too easily manipulated. They'd be used as political pawns by some agenda-hungry lobbyist. They should vote when they legally have recognition to vote.
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10/2/2010 5:21:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/29/2010 6:23:40 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Should children be the ones who vote

Never. Let the 26th amendment remain the way it is.

on any policy that deals with the environment

What are some pragmatic ideas that you can present.

because we are the ones who will inherit this rock and I personally want it in good condition.

This is not a good reason.