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frbnsn
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12/5/2015 9:03:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
A leader must firstly effort for his people, to make more welfare.
But Putin likes fighting other countries and occupying, instead.
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12/5/2015 9:16:28 AM
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At 12/5/2015 9:03:28 AM, frbnsn wrote:
A leader must firstly effort for his people, to make more welfare.
But Putin likes fighting other countries and occupying, instead.

- He is just trying to imitate Murica.
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12/5/2015 9:17:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Trying to fight off NATO.

NATO promised not to allow any more eastern countries into it, since Russia felt compromised and threatened (and rightly so!) by them. They ended the cold war on those terms. Gorbachev was eager for peace, but still loved his country and didn't want it to be threatened or destroyed by the West.

Then, less than a decade later, against these peace terms, NATO accepted Poland into it. That's why Putin hates us and thinks we are traitors and scum. And we are, pretty much.

He just wants to make his country greater, whereas the West wants to fill the rich men in glass tower's pockets with Third World oil.
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12/5/2015 9:18:25 AM
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West: CURIOUSLY, have not bombed ISIS oil refineries.
Russia: Have bombed oil refineries.

I think that says it all, really.
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12/5/2015 9:26:36 AM
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Pretty much. He is (understandably) trying to subvert the unipolar world that the US & allies have control over. Problem is, he's trying to take it too far and a multipolar world with such leaders would just end in world war. Not to mention that he attacks society too (as if the LGBT movement is western propaganda and not a universal human struggle).
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12/5/2015 9:27:53 AM
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At 12/5/2015 9:26:36 AM, Candide1 wrote:
Pretty much. He is (understandably) trying to subvert the unipolar world that the US & allies have control over. Problem is, he's trying to take it too far and a multipolar world with such leaders would just end in world war. Not to mention that he attacks society too (ex: he treats LGBT movements as western propaganda and not a universal human struggle).
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12/5/2015 9:28:43 AM
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He does have interesting arguments against Homosexuality, though. And we shouldn't forget that it's not Putin who is personally against the LGBT community. So is the Kremlin, and the Russian people (if that is through choice or propaganda, who knows?).

I think homosexuality should (and is in the West, more or less) be accepted, since it's natural and happens to other animals. I'm much more on the fence with transgenderism, though.
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12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM
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To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.
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12/5/2015 9:37:58 AM
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At 12/5/2015 9:03:28 AM, frbnsn wrote:
A leader must firstly effort for his people, to make more welfare.
Who are you to tell him what he must do?

On what grounds?

Does the very gravity of every star pull him toward it?

Or do are you trying to identify some incentive he has?
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12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM
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At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.
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12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM
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At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?
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12/5/2015 11:43:28 AM
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At 12/5/2015 9:18:25 AM, smelisox wrote:
West: CURIOUSLY, have not bombed ISIS oil refineries.
Russia: Have bombed oil refineries.

I think that says it all, really.

Bombing refineries would anger Turkey.
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12/5/2015 11:44:43 AM
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At 12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?

The scarcity is caused by problems like this. The Earth is plentiful, and can provide.

Even in matters where the materials are getting dangerously low (petrol), we've come so far in Science that we can create Petrol artificially. We will never have 0 of a certain material.
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12/5/2015 11:46:17 AM
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At 12/5/2015 11:44:43 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?

The scarcity is caused by problems like this. The Earth is plentiful, and can provide.

Scarcity is caused by overpopulation, unrestricted immigration, and declining education.
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12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM
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At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".
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12/5/2015 11:49:34 AM
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At 12/5/2015 11:46:17 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:44:43 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?

The scarcity is caused by problems like this. The Earth is plentiful, and can provide.

Scarcity is caused by overpopulation, unrestricted immigration, and declining education.

Overpopulation is not a problem at all. The Earth is big enough to accomodate and feed about 60 billion people, if handled properly. Unrestricted immigration is healthy for a country, and education isn't declining (the opposite, in fact).
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12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.
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12/5/2015 11:52:54 AM
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The greatest advancements in Science, Psychology and Medicine were made in a few years under the Nazi dictatorship. The best place to live on Earth, rivalling Denmark, was Libya under Gadhaffi (before the US had him assassinated and his corpse raped).
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12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM
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At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.
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12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM
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At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.
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12/5/2015 12:07:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.

A highly centralized society - totalitarian society,is extremely prone to corruption, but a highly decentralized society - libertarian/anarchist society,is much more resistant to corruption because the power is spread around and it's impossible to centralize it. It's not a utopia,not by a long shot,but it's still better than the current system.
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12/5/2015 12:11:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 12:07:23 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.

A highly centralized society - totalitarian society,is extremely prone to corruption, but a highly decentralized society - libertarian/anarchist society,is much more resistant to corruption because the power is spread around and it's impossible to centralize it. It's not a utopia,not by a long shot,but it's still better than the current system.

Keep in mind that when I say "libertarian" I mean the one who upholds liberty as his principal political objective. Not free market fundamentalists who hijacked the word. They would probably go nuts if they learned that the first guy to use the word "libertarian" to describe himself in a political sense was a communist...
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12/5/2015 12:28:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 12:11:53 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:07:23 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.

A highly centralized society - totalitarian society,is extremely prone to corruption, but a highly decentralized society - libertarian/anarchist society,is much more resistant to corruption because the power is spread around and it's impossible to centralize it. It's not a utopia,not by a long shot,but it's still better than the current system.

Keep in mind that when I say "libertarian" I mean the one who upholds liberty as his principal political objective. Not free market fundamentalists who hijacked the word. They would probably go nuts if they learned that the first guy to use the word "libertarian" to describe himself in a political sense was a communist...

My understanding of Libertarian was that equality is dolled out by your wealth. Wealthy people who can afford 100,000$ chemotherapy can get it, but Mr Johnson, who is poor, and has no friends or charities who can help him pay it, dies of cancer and the Libertarians approve.
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12/5/2015 12:32:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 12:28:27 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:11:53 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:07:23 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.

A highly centralized society - totalitarian society,is extremely prone to corruption, but a highly decentralized society - libertarian/anarchist society,is much more resistant to corruption because the power is spread around and it's impossible to centralize it. It's not a utopia,not by a long shot,but it's still better than the current system.

Keep in mind that when I say "libertarian" I mean the one who upholds liberty as his principal political objective. Not free market fundamentalists who hijacked the word. They would probably go nuts if they learned that the first guy to use the word "libertarian" to describe himself in a political sense was a communist...

My understanding of Libertarian was that equality is dolled out by your wealth. Wealthy people who can afford 100,000$ chemotherapy can get it, but Mr Johnson, who is poor, and has no friends or charities who can help him pay it, dies of cancer and the Libertarians approve.

Free market fundamentalists who call themselves "libertarians" really believe that's OK. Like Ron Paul who was asked should the society let a guy,who was in an automobile accident and was uninsured,die. He said yes... It's a murderous,illogical social Darwinist philosophy.
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12/5/2015 12:35:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 12:32:48 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:28:27 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:11:53 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 12:07:23 PM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:58:11 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:55:58 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:51:01 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:48:41 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

Apparently,you missed the "socialist" part of "libertarian socialism".

Sounds more like Liberal Socialism.

"Liberal" Socialists are authoritarian Socialists because they believe it's possible to use the state to bring about socialism. Marxists also share this view. Libertarian socialists believe that the state is incapable of creating true socialism and want instead direct social control of the means of production,not state control,like "Liberal" Socialists.

But that's utopic, one corrupt person and the system would fail.

A highly centralized society - totalitarian society,is extremely prone to corruption, but a highly decentralized society - libertarian/anarchist society,is much more resistant to corruption because the power is spread around and it's impossible to centralize it. It's not a utopia,not by a long shot,but it's still better than the current system.

Keep in mind that when I say "libertarian" I mean the one who upholds liberty as his principal political objective. Not free market fundamentalists who hijacked the word. They would probably go nuts if they learned that the first guy to use the word "libertarian" to describe himself in a political sense was a communist...

My understanding of Libertarian was that equality is dolled out by your wealth. Wealthy people who can afford 100,000$ chemotherapy can get it, but Mr Johnson, who is poor, and has no friends or charities who can help him pay it, dies of cancer and the Libertarians approve.

Free market fundamentalists who call themselves "libertarians" really believe that's OK. Like Ron Paul who was asked should the society let a guy,who was in an automobile accident and was uninsured,die. He said yes... It's a murderous,illogical social Darwinist philosophy.

I like the idea of everyone having full liberties within the limits of the law. Unfortunately, in practice, I think it could get a bit out of hand, like KKK or Nazi rallies in public like in the US.
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12/5/2015 1:54:41 PM
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At 12/5/2015 9:03:28 AM, frbnsn wrote:
A leader must firstly effort for his people, to make more welfare.
But Putin likes fighting other countries and occupying, instead.

If I kicked you in the groin, I assume you'd wait to be kicked a 2nd, 3rd, and 12th time without challenging me. Heck, why not make it 13. You let me go for 12? False "ethics" is not ethics at all. If one attacks you and you dilly dally around acting all peaceful and then your family is raped and beheaded by extremists, you were not "peaceful". You were a coward who allowed your family's destruction. To not stare down your enemy when he challenges your life and the lives of your country, is simply fear.
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12/5/2015 10:36:03 PM
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At 12/5/2015 11:44:43 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?

The scarcity is caused by problems like this.
What is "this?"

The Earth is plentiful, and can provide.
The Earth doesn't provide healthcare. The most scarce part of it is the labor. You're dodging the question. TANSTAAFL.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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12/5/2015 10:37:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 11:46:17 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:44:43 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 11:27:30 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 12/5/2015 10:48:20 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 12/5/2015 9:35:03 AM, ghastly1302 wrote:
To become a dictator,and please,I am not some American who believes that America is a democracy and Russia is a dictatorship. I am a libertarian socialist,so you will understand my opposition to dictators. Also,being popular does not mean you are not acting like a dictator. Power corrupts.

Libertarians, who think that people should not receive free healthcare.

How are you going to make free healthcare appear? Are you unfamiliar with the existence of scarcity, or the labor, materials, land, energy, etc consumed by healthcare?

The scarcity is caused by problems like this. The Earth is plentiful, and can provide.

Scarcity is caused by overpopulation, unrestricted immigration, and declining education.

Don't be silly. Scarcity existed for the entirety of human history, regardless of education, population, and immigration policy. Scarcity is the basic economic fact. Desires always exceed that which is available, and always will.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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12/5/2015 10:40:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 11:52:54 AM, smelisox wrote:
The greatest advancements in Science, Psychology and Medicine were made in a few years under the Nazi dictatorship.
The medicine one is a widespread myth. There is perhaps one bit of Nazi medical research that has stood the test of time to still be used in treatment today (their hypothermia protocol).

The other claims I've never heard and you'll need to provide evidence.

The best place to live on Earth, rivalling Denmark, was Libya under Gadhaffi (before the US had him assassinated and his corpse raped).

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12/5/2015 10:42:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/5/2015 12:35:17 PM, smelisox wrote:
I like the idea of everyone having full liberties within the limits of the law. Unfortunately, in practice, I think it could get a bit out of hand, like KKK or Nazi rallies in public like in the US.

Both of those are legal today, protected by the First Amendment. They're generally harmless, far less harmful than the chilling effects of European-style censorship regimes.
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