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12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.
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12/6/2015 6:18:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Is this the same guy who called "death to America," while work was being done of a nuclear deal? Sounds like a real peaceful man...

Also, do you have a link to these letters? I'd be interested in reading them.
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12/6/2015 6:31:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:18:28 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Is this the same guy who called "death to America," while work was being done of a nuclear deal? Sounds like a real peaceful man...
The term "Death to America" is not a newly made term. It has been 30 years that Iranians are saying that when your positions supported Iran's tyrant kings to kill Iranians and supported Saddam Husain to invade Iran. The things got worst when your navy killed many innocent Iranians in the airplane on Persian golf claiming "We thought it was a fighter" and even worse when USA put heavy sanctions on Iranians. What do you expect Iranians say? Do you want us say "We like American positions"?!! It is almost your politions fault to stop a revolution.

By the way, never forget this "Death to America" is just related to USA government and NOT American nation.

Also, do you have a link to these letters? I'd be interested in reading them.
I wish you put prejudice away and think.

http://english.khamenei.ir...
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12/6/2015 6:39:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:31:30 PM, shalal12 wrote:
Is this the same guy who called "death to America," while work was being done of a nuclear deal? Sounds like a real peaceful man...
The term "Death to America" is not a newly made term. It has been 30 years that Iranians are saying that when your positions supported Iran's tyrant kings to kill Iranians and supported Saddam Husain to invade Iran.

30 years of different US governments and different situations doesn't mean you can encourage crowds to chant "death to America" in the middle of important negotiations with America. It's almost like they don't want any reconciliations.

The things got worst when your navy killed many innocent Iranians in the airplane on Persian golf claiming "We thought it was a fighter" and even worse when USA put heavy sanctions on Iranians. What do you expect Iranians say? Do you want us say "We like American positions"?!! It is almost your politions fault to stop a revolution.

None of this actually justifies saying "death to America" when there are serious negotiations taking place that are being observed by and have effects on the entire world.

By the way, never forget this "Death to America" is just related to USA government and NOT American nation.

Just a call kill the entire US government, that's great, really peaceful.

But never the less, this guy seems better than Ruhollah Khomeini at least.
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12/6/2015 6:47:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Quick question? Is that the Iranian State News Network?
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12/6/2015 6:49:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:39:32 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:31:30 PM, shalal12 wrote:
Is this the same guy who called "death to America," while work was being done of a nuclear deal? Sounds like a real peaceful man...
The term "Death to America" is not a newly made term. It has been 30 years that Iranians are saying that when your positions supported Iran's tyrant kings to kill Iranians and supported Saddam Husain to invade Iran.

30 years of different US governments and different situations doesn't mean you can encourage crowds to chant "death to America" in the middle of important negotiations with America. It's almost like they don't want any reconciliations.
This is what your politicians say even during the deal "All the options are on the table, even military options", and we hear that.

The things got worst when your navy killed many innocent Iranians in the airplane on Persian golf claiming "We thought it was a fighter" and even worse when USA put heavy sanctions on Iranians. What do you expect Iranians say? Do you want us say "We like American positions"?!! It is almost your politions fault to stop a revolution.

None of this actually justifies saying "death to America" when there are serious negotiations taking place that are being observed by and have effects on the entire world.
All do.

By the way, never forget this "Death to America" is just related to USA government and NOT American nation.

Just a call kill the entire US government, that's great, really peaceful.
"All the options are on the table, even military options"=> We are peacful but NOT timid.

But never the less, this guy seems better than Ruhollah Khomeini at least.
Both are dominant leaders. And we are proud of them.
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12/6/2015 6:51:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:47:40 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Quick question? Is that the Iranian State News Network?
I live in Iran and I both hear and see the facts.
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12/6/2015 6:53:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:51:39 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:47:40 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Quick question? Is that the Iranian State News Network?
I live in Iran and I both hear and see the facts.

Bro... You didn't answer my question. Is that the Iranian State News Network? I'm just curious.
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12/6/2015 7:00:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 6:53:51 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:51:39 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:47:40 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Quick question? Is that the Iranian State News Network?
I live in Iran and I both hear and see the facts.

Bro... You didn't answer my question. Is that the Iranian State News Network? I'm just curious.

Yes it is.
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12/6/2015 7:16:29 PM
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At 12/6/2015 6:49:25 PM, shalal12 wrote:
This is what your politicians say even during the deal "All the options are on the table, even military options", and we hear that.

Of course military options are on the table when you're talking about a country like Iran developing nuclear weapons. This is a serious matter. Any nation that considers defying the international community to develop nuclear weapons needs to know it will be met with resistance.

All do.

I actually don't know what these two words have to do in response to what I said.

"All the options are on the table, even military options"=> We are peacful but NOT timid.
Military options are always on the table for any country, don't act like Iran is a nation full of pacifists.

But never the less, this guy seems better than Ruhollah Khomeini at least.
Both are dominant leaders. And we are proud of them.

Ruhollah is one of the worst scum that ever existed on the planet. Unless you forgot about his order political prisoners and kill them if they were found guilty of "apostasy." Or his fatwa calling for the death of Salman Rushdie. This was a cowardly man who was deathly afraid of ideas different from his own. Not to mention it's actually illegal to insult him now...
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12/6/2015 7:28:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/6/2015 7:16:29 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:49:25 PM, shalal12 wrote:
This is what your politicians say even during the deal "All the options are on the table, even military options", and we hear that.

Of course military options are on the table when you're talking about a country like Iran developing nuclear weapons. This is a serious matter. Any nation that considers defying the international community to develop nuclear weapons needs to know it will be met with resistance.
If nuclear bomb is bad, then why USA and its allies own them!! If it's good then why others shouldnt have it!!
On the other hand, Ayatollah khamenei has prohibited nuclear bomb and no one dares to disagree his fatwa as he is religious head, army head and government head.

All do.

I actually don't know what these two words have to do in response to what I said.
I just mentioned the reasons which make Iranians have such an attitude toward USA. You need to understand that we care about history.

"All the options are on the table, even military options"=> We are peacful but NOT timid.
Military options are always on the table for any country
You need to understand our culture. When and individual Iranian hears that sentence, then the answer is known.
don't act like Iran is a nation full of pacifists.
You dont know what is really going on here in the Middle east.

But never the less, this guy seems better than Ruhollah Khomeini at least.
Both are dominant leaders. And we are proud of them.

Ruhollah is one of the worst scum that ever existed on the planet. Unless you forgot about his order political prisoners and kill them if they were found guilty of "apostasy." Or his fatwa calling for the death of Salman Rushdie. This was a cowardly man who was deathly afraid of ideas different from his own. Not to mention it's actually illegal to insult him now...
Ayatollah Khomeini is seriously respected by Iranians.
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12/6/2015 7:33:53 PM
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At 12/6/2015 7:28:42 PM, shalal12 wrote:
If nuclear bomb is bad, then why USA and its allies own them!! If it's good then why others shouldnt have it!!

Research was done during the world wars to prevent many worse enemies from getting them. The US and it's allies had actual need from them. Whereas Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons. Also, do you think that every country can just dispose of it's nuclear weapons now? Do you have any idea how disastrous of an idea that is?

You dont know what is really going on here in the Middle east.

I know just as much as you do, partly because the country I live in doesn't restrict freedom of speech and press.

Ruhollah is one of the worst scum that ever existed on the planet. Unless you forgot about his order political prisoners and kill them if they were found guilty of "apostasy." Or his fatwa calling for the death of Salman Rushdie. This was a cowardly man who was deathly afraid of ideas different from his own. Not to mention it's actually illegal to insult him now...
Ayatollah Khomeini is seriously respected by Iranians.
Because it's actually against the law to insult him, and you can be, and people have been, charged for it.
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12/6/2015 7:42:35 PM
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At 12/6/2015 7:33:53 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:28:42 PM, shalal12 wrote:
If nuclear bomb is bad, then why USA and its allies own them!! If it's good then why others shouldnt have it!!

Research was done during the world wars to prevent many worse enemies from getting them. The US and it's allies had actual need from them. Whereas Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Israel can be trusted?!!!

Also, do you think that every country can just dispose of it's nuclear weapons now? Do you have any idea how disastrous of an idea that is?
The one who make and design it can also dispose it.
And the thing which is for sure is that, NO one, NO one should have such weapons. We are all humans we are not wild animals.
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12/6/2015 10:23:06 PM
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At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

We can't trust Iran with nuclear weapons, sorry, but that's just the fact. The U.S has only used nuclear weapons twice in WW2, and since then has regretted it. The reason we have it, is to make sure other countries fear us. It's a scare tactic. I do not trust Iran one bit.
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12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM
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At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.
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12/6/2015 11:29:46 PM
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At 12/6/2015 7:42:35 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:33:53 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:28:42 PM, shalal12 wrote:
If nuclear bomb is bad, then why USA and its allies own them!! If it's good then why others shouldnt have it!!

Research was done during the world wars to prevent many worse enemies from getting them. The US and it's allies had actual need from them. Whereas Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Israel can be trusted?!!!

Yes, Israel can be trusted more than any other country in that region. Israel also has defensive uses for them because they're being threatened by middle eastern terrorists and state governments.

The one who make and design it can also dispose it.
And the thing which is for sure is that, NO one, NO one should have such weapons. We are all humans we are not wild animals.

That's not how it works. Not all countries with nuclear weapons are signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty [Pakistan, India, etc.]. They aren't bound to any commitments regarding the disposal of their nuclear weapons, so if the west [all the trustworthy countries] got rid of their nuclear weapons, we would be leaving power in the likes of countries that would be more likely to abuse it.
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12/6/2015 11:31:39 PM
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At 12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.

Why would he set them free? This is the second ayatollah, and the first one was the one who drafted the constitution of Iran that essentially turned it into a theocracy in the first place. It's impossible to think that anyone in the position of "supreme leader," a religious position that has more power than the actual government would want to do any real good.
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12/7/2015 2:36:43 AM
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At 12/6/2015 11:29:46 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:42:35 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:33:53 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 7:28:42 PM, shalal12 wrote:
If nuclear bomb is bad, then why USA and its allies own them!! If it's good then why others shouldnt have it!!

Research was done during the world wars to prevent many worse enemies from getting them. The US and it's allies had actual need from them. Whereas Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Israel can be trusted?!!!

Yes, Israel can be trusted more than any other country in that region. Israel also has defensive uses for them because they're being threatened by middle eastern terrorists and state governments.
It can be trusted for you NOT for us. The thing which is for sure is that they may use nuclear bombs. On the other hand, It's Israel which has invaded Palestine and we even dont regard Israel as a country.

The one who make and design it can also dispose it.
And the thing which is for sure is that, NO one, NO one should have such weapons. We are all humans we are not wild animals.

That's not how it works. Not all countries with nuclear weapons are signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty [Pakistan, India, etc.]. They aren't bound to any commitments regarding the disposal of their nuclear weapons, so if the west [all the trustworthy countries] got rid of their nuclear weapons, we would be leaving power in the likes of countries that would be more likely to abuse it.
It was USA itself which made Pakistan a nuclear power.
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12/7/2015 2:44:34 AM
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At 12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.
Well, you should be respecting Iranians decision. It was 98.3% of Iranians who voted for Islamic republic and you can check 22nd Bahman that millions of Iranians support the Islamic revolution in each year. Of course we have today almost many Iranians who are not religious but the fact is that they are NOT in majority at all. Even not comparable with the ones who are religious. It's like comparing a glass of water with the ocean.
We do enjoy Islamic rules they are crystal and I understand your views however cultures are so different and you have been influenced by Islam phobia I suppose
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12/7/2015 2:47:58 AM
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At 12/6/2015 10:23:06 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

We can't trust Iran with nuclear weapons, sorry, but that's just the fact. The U.S has only used nuclear weapons twice in WW2, and since then has regretted it. The reason we have it, is to make sure other countries fear us. It's a scare tactic. I do not trust Iran one bit.

Make sure USA will use nuclear bombs to kill many innocent people once again in the future just when it's needed. We also dont trust USA. No one should have such weapons.
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12/7/2015 3:01:33 AM
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At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Interesting. If you are, as you hold yourself out to be, the mouthpiece of the Ayatollah, I have these messages to relay to him:

1. The west has no intention of pursuing any kind of conflict with Iran. Just as Iran has within its borders fringe lunatics (of which the examples are many, such as the former president), so too does the United States (of which the examples are proportionally voluminous, and on similar levels... e.g. the republican field).

2. It is in our strategic best interests to work together. I know, as surely you do as well, that the United States did some things that caused many problems for Iran. It is indeed the case that the US once intended to co-opt Iran as part of a tripartite geopolitical strategy to advance its regional goals, and that relations between the US and Iran have been deeply sour since 1979. Pre-1979 Iran however was, without question, more free and an objectively more desirable place to live. For example, there was less political repression, more free speech, better educational opportunities, and more thorough and mutually beneficial economic integration with the West.

3. It is better to be a client state of the United States than an enemy, of which you are surely aware. As you are also surely aware, Egypt made a pretty monumental transition in the 1980s and 1990s, and Iran could do the same (and should, for Iran's sake).

4. Even though it is clear that neither country particularly cares about human rights, we both desire to prevent terrorism around the world, for economic and political reasons, as well as practical ones. Our interests in world peace are, without question, mutually aligned. Iran wants to protect its regional and domestic interests; and the US does as well. (And there will be many instances where our assessments of regional actors are alike. For example, what we, I think, can both agree on is that Saudi Arabia is worse than Iran ever was.) However, Iran must--and this is not a point of negotiation--stop executing, torturing, and etc. gays, lesbians, and other sexual minorities. It has to stop, because the US has every reason to use Iran's human rights abuses as a pretext for ongoing and indefinite sanctions (as severe or worse as previous sanctions) unless Iran does otherwise.

5. All of these things being accounted for, pursuit of nuclear technology (even though it is clear that the reason Iran wants nuclear technology is as a means to resist Western regional influence) will force the West's hand... which is something that neither of us want. We do not want war. You do not want war. If your government pursues nuclear weapons, you do so at the risk of war. So stop. Work with us, in the region. We will be reasonable.

6. Foreign relations aside, We, and by "we" I mean "the informed people of the United States" recognize the considerable progress that has been made in the last few years to repair US-Iranian relations. Culturally, we may be very different, but both cultures have much to offer the world. Iran's history is both remarkable and respectable, and Iranian food, is, without question, among the best in the world. (I say that having experienced it many times, in many different contexts.) As an outsider, it seems to me that Iran's culinary tradition is perhaps the country's strongest point of pride.
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12/7/2015 3:26:35 AM
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At 12/7/2015 2:36:43 AM, shalal12 wrote:
It can be trusted for you NOT for us. The thing which is for sure is that they may use nuclear bombs. On the other hand, It's Israel which has invaded Palestine and we even dont regard Israel as a country.

Israel so far hasn't shown any interest in using nuclear weapons on any country, not even Iran, which threatens Israel with death and destruction on a regular basis. Israel hasn't invaded Palestine, it's terrorists within that region who threaten Israel's security, and Israel has a right to defend itself. Also, it doesn't really matter whether or not your regard Israel as a country, because the overwhelming majority of the international community does, which is the only real certification you need to be considered a country.

It was USA itself which made Pakistan a nuclear power.

Look, I think it's great how you're trying to be inclusive by tying in the US to everything, but the fact is that, there are countries that have nuclear weapons who we cannot trust to be the only nuclear powers in the world should we choose to discard our own.

The thing with nuclear weapons is that they have created a nice balance of power, it would be foolish to discard our own weapons and give our [potential] enemies a free pass to destroying us.
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12/7/2015 11:47:21 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 3:01:33 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:

Interesting. If you are, as you hold yourself out to be, the mouthpiece of the Ayatollah, I have these messages to relay to him:

1. The west has no intention of pursuing any kind of conflict with Iran. Just as Iran has within its borders fringe lunatics (of which the examples are many, such as the former president), so too does the United States (of which the examples are proportionally voluminous, and on similar levels... e.g. the republican field).

Iran has also no intention of pursuing any kind of conflict with USA. However, there are serious problems which may lead to conflicts. These problems do exist and there is almost no solution to them unless Israel poses threat to Muslims. I am not sure how much you know about Shia Muslims but the fact is Iranians are basically all Shia Muslims and we have got our own rules. Israel's actions are 100% against Shia rules and NO one can change the beliefs of Iranians. Here are some rules to Shia Muslims:

1. Shia nation should never attack a country except to save the lives of Mahdi and Christ (peace be upon them both) who will come in the future. However, if the mentioned country attacks first then Shia nation is allowed to attack.
=>According to this rule, Iran will never attack a nation unless it attacks first. This a serious rule and even if government decides to attack, Iranians will not attend in the war. Expect they prove the mentioned predictions in our books.

2. If a nation kills Muslims and the innocent Muslims ask for help Shia Muslims MUST help them and MUST fight with the mentioned nation. If Shia Muslims dont fight them, then, they are NOT Muslims and they will be punished in the day of judgment.

=>According to this rule we have no choice but to fight with Israel as it kills Muslims in Muslim lands.

3. The true kings are Christ(pbuh) and Mahdi(pbuh), they are both alive and waiting to Allah's permission to appear on Earth one more time. Any other kingdoms or nations which pose threat them must be regarded as true enemy of Shia.

=>According to history and Shia predictions, Zionists are real threat to both Christ (pbuh) and Mahdi(pbuh). Israel is Jewish nation and 100% against Chrsit (pbuh) and Mahdi (pbuh) will go to the holy land al-Quds. Hence, Israel is our true enemy. That's why Iranians make Sipah al-Quds (Quds forces) to give it to Chist(pbuh) and Mahdi(pbuh) when needed.

2. It is in our strategic best interests to work together. I know, as surely you do as well, that the United States did some things that caused many problems for Iran. It is indeed the case that the US once intended to co-opt Iran as part of a tripartite geopolitical strategy to advance its regional goals, and that relations between the US and Iran have been deeply sour since 1979. Pre-1979 Iran however was, without question, more free and an objectively more desirable place to live. For example, there was less political repression, more free speech, better educational opportunities, and more thorough and mutually beneficial economic integration with the West.
To be frank the Iranian society now is much better than it was 30 years ago. There was no free speech as king would kill you. Educational opportunities were so weak and not comparable with this time. If an American harmed an innocent Iranians Iranians had no choice to take him to court and....
But about economic fields you are right.

3. It is better to be a client state of the United States than an enemy, of which you are surely aware. As you are also surely aware, Egypt made a pretty monumental transition in the 1980s and 1990s, and Iran could do the same (and should, for Iran's sake).

We dont wanna fight with USA. The problem is that USA is supporting our worst enemy Israel.

4. Even though it is clear that neither country particularly cares about human rights, we both desire to prevent terrorism around the world, for economic and political reasons, as well as practical ones. Our interests in world peace are, without question, mutually aligned. Iran wants to protect its regional and domestic interests; and the US does as well. (And there will be many instances where our assessments of regional actors are alike. For example, what we, I think, can both agree on is that Saudi Arabia is worse than Iran ever was.) However, Iran must--and this is not a point of negotiation--stop executing, torturing, and etc. gays, lesbians, and other sexual minorities. It has to stop, because the US has every reason to use Iran's human rights abuses as a pretext for ongoing and indefinite sanctions (as severe or worse as previous sanctions) unless Iran does otherwise.

So strange!!! USA and its allies kill innocent nations to give them human rights!!! You need to understand this that USA just uses "human rights" as means to put pressure on its enemies. The human rights in Iran is much better than countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and...But the pressure is just on Iran. Dont you wanna think?!

You also need to respect cultural differences. Homosexuality is just a shame in our culture and both culture and logic reject it. In fact American people are ruining their society and family foundation by their own hands. Just check your society, when you chose a girl to marry you are almost sure she has experienced many men before you!! Your families are not as warm as ours!! Po*r*.n videos and channels has strongly influenced American childeren and...
Please dont ask us to be like you in this case! We dont regard it human right but in fact human enemy! Above all, didnt God punish the nation of Prophet Lout (pbuh) because of that great sin?!

5. All of these things being accounted for, pursuit of nuclear technology (even though it is clear that the reason Iran wants nuclear technology is as a means to resist Western regional influence) will force the West's hand... which is something that neither of us want. We do not want war. You do not want war. If your government pursues nuclear weapons, you do so at the risk of war. So stop. Work with us, in the region. We will be reasonable.

Nuclear weapon is taboo and against Shia rules. Make sure even if my government wants to make it we, Shia Muslims, will not let them.
"Work with us, in the region."=>To do what?! Let me tell you that there is just one and one thing which is important for us. We, Iranian Shia Muslims, will never work for your government and we will just work for Christ(pbuh) and Mahdi (pbuh). If the price of helping them is to give our lives then it's OK. If the price of God's prophet is to be nuked by Israel then we will pay it. No matter what the price is. I just wonder when I see Christians ignoring their alive prophet. Didnt Jesus (pbuh) mention that he would come in the future one more time?! What makes you think that we shouldnt have a prophet in 2015?!
Isnt it in Gospel that a woman with 12 stars appeared in the heaven and the red dragon with the mentioned heads and horns took the third star? Who is that woman?Who are those 12 stars? who is the dragon? why red? why 3rd star?...
Just check Arbaeen 2015, 26 million Shia Muslims were in Iraq to visit the third star (Husain) and they promised him that they will protect the 12th star (Mahdi or 12th Imam or Son of man).


6. Foreign relations aside, We, and by "we" I mean "the informed people of the United States" recognize the considerable progress that has been made in the last few years to repair US-Iranian relations. .....
Indeed, we also rely on the progresses which have been achieved in few years. If you come Iran you can eat more.
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12/7/2015 11:58:58 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 3:26:35 AM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/7/2015 2:36:43 AM, shalal12 wrote:
It can be trusted for you NOT for us. The thing which is for sure is that they may use nuclear bombs. On the other hand, It's Israel which has invaded Palestine and we even dont regard Israel as a country.

Israel so far hasn't shown any interest in using nuclear weapons on any country, not even Iran, which threatens Israel with death and destruction on a regular basis. Israel hasn't invaded Palestine, it's terrorists within that region who threaten Israel's security, and Israel has a right to defend itself. Also, it doesn't really matter whether or not your regard Israel as a country, because the overwhelming majority of the international community does, which is the only real certification you need to be considered a country.

It was USA itself which made Pakistan a nuclear power.

Look, I think it's great how you're trying to be inclusive by tying in the US to everything, but the fact is that, there are countries that have nuclear weapons who we cannot trust to be the only nuclear powers in the world should we choose to discard our own.

The thing with nuclear weapons is that they have created a nice balance of power, it would be foolish to discard our own weapons and give our [potential] enemies a free pass to destroying us.

I dont your views however I understand them.
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12/7/2015 3:47:55 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 3:26:35 AM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 12/7/2015 2:36:43 AM, shalal12 wrote:
It can be trusted for you NOT for us. The thing which is for sure is that they may use nuclear bombs. On the other hand, It's Israel which has invaded Palestine and we even dont regard Israel as a country.

Israel so far hasn't shown any interest in using nuclear weapons on any country, not even Iran, which threatens Israel with death and destruction on a regular basis. Israel hasn't invaded Palestine, it's terrorists within that region who threaten Israel's security, and Israel has a right to defend itself. Also, it doesn't really matter whether or not your regard Israel as a country, because the overwhelming majority of the international community does, which is the only real certification you need to be considered a country.

It was USA itself which made Pakistan a nuclear power.

Look, I think it's great how you're trying to be inclusive by tying in the US to everything, but the fact is that, there are countries that have nuclear weapons who we cannot trust to be the only nuclear powers in the world should we choose to discard our own.

The thing with nuclear weapons is that they have created a nice balance of power, it would be foolish to discard our own weapons and give our [potential] enemies a free pass to destroying us.

*I dont endorse your views however I understand them
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12/7/2015 4:58:14 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 2:44:34 AM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.
Well, you should be respecting Iranians decision. It was 98.3% of Iranians who voted for Islamic republic and you can check 22nd Bahman that millions of Iranians support the Islamic revolution in each year. Of course we have today almost many Iranians who are not religious but the fact is that they are NOT in majority at all. Even not comparable with the ones who are religious. It's like comparing a glass of water with the ocean.
We do enjoy Islamic rules they are crystal and I understand your views however cultures are so different and you have been influenced by Islam phobia I suppose

I don't accept the term "islamaphobia". It was coined by the Muslim brotherhood to shut people up from questioning Islam and particularly islamists. I have concerns about your religion and they are justified. You try to paint too rosy a picture of Iran. There are many human rights abuses that go on there. There's no doubt your numbers are wrong and electoral fraud is rampant. A dictatorship doesn't give up any power. Your President is a puppet of his masters.
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12/7/2015 5:50:32 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 4:58:14 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/7/2015 2:44:34 AM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.
Well, you should be respecting Iranians decision. It was 98.3% of Iranians who voted for Islamic republic and you can check 22nd Bahman that millions of Iranians support the Islamic revolution in each year. Of course we have today almost many Iranians who are not religious but the fact is that they are NOT in majority at all. Even not comparable with the ones who are religious. It's like comparing a glass of water with the ocean.
We do enjoy Islamic rules they are crystal and I understand your views however cultures are so different and you have been influenced by Islam phobia I suppose

I don't accept the term "islamaphobia". It was coined by the Muslim brotherhood to shut people up from questioning Islam and particularly islamists. I have concerns about your religion and they are justified.
You have problem with Islam itslef.

You try to paint too rosy a picture of Iran.
I as an Iranian do enjoy Islamic rules and I enjoy such a safe country in the most unsafe region of the world. I live in here after all but you dont live here!

There are many human rights abuses that go on there.
There are much more in yours. The definition of human right is different. You call legal abortion a human right we may call it anti-human action. You call homosexuality human right we call it anti-human action. And the thing which is for sure is that we are right.

There's no doubt your numbers are wrong and electoral fraud is rampant.
No it's NOT. Make sure it's just like what I said.

A dictatorship doesn't give up any power. Your President is a puppet of his masters.
It's clear that you are wrong. President in Iran plays a dominant role especially in foreign policy. Just compare Ahmadinejad with Rouhani and analyze foreign policy of Iran in the age of both presidents.
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12/7/2015 8:08:00 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 5:50:32 PM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/7/2015 4:58:14 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/7/2015 2:44:34 AM, shalal12 wrote:
At 12/6/2015 11:20:19 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/6/2015 6:13:15 PM, shalal12 wrote:
It's the second letter of Ayatollah Khameni to the youth in Western countries.
Ayatollah Khamenei is the head of Iran and one of the dominant religious heads of Shia Muslims in the region. He as the military head of Iran was the one who stopped Iranians reach their missiles to USA saying "We have no problem with American people". Also he was the one who let Iran's president to make nuclear deal with USA saying "Nuclear bomb is taboo in Islam and it's just barbarism to have such weapons". The one who founded a lot to fight with ISIS, al-Qaidah and Taliban.

When Sunni radical Muslims (ISIS and related terrorist groups) started killing Shia Muslims, it was he who made Shia Muslims calm not to harm their fellow Sunni Muslims and kept both sides in peace. And .... And ... And ...

No one can deny his peaceful and valuable actions in the world. By writing these letters he just tries to make peace between western and Middle eastern youth and remove hater from both sides.

Maybe he should set his own people free from their suffocating religion. I've never met a Persian in the West who is religious. They just want to be free. That is impossible under a Theocracy.
Well, you should be respecting Iranians decision. It was 98.3% of Iranians who voted for Islamic republic and you can check 22nd Bahman that millions of Iranians support the Islamic revolution in each year. Of course we have today almost many Iranians who are not religious but the fact is that they are NOT in majority at all. Even not comparable with the ones who are religious. It's like comparing a glass of water with the ocean.
We do enjoy Islamic rules they are crystal and I understand your views however cultures are so different and you have been influenced by Islam phobia I suppose

I don't accept the term "islamaphobia". It was coined by the Muslim brotherhood to shut people up from questioning Islam and particularly islamists. I have concerns about your religion and they are justified.
You have problem with Islam itslef.

You try to paint too rosy a picture of Iran.
I as an Iranian do enjoy Islamic rules and I enjoy such a safe country in the most unsafe region of the world. I live in here after all but you dont live here!

There are many human rights abuses that go on there.
There are much more in yours. The definition of human right is different. You call legal abortion a human right we may call it anti-human action. You call homosexuality human right we call it anti-human action. And the thing which is for sure is that we are right.

There's no doubt your numbers are wrong and electoral fraud is rampant.
No it's NOT. Make sure it's just like what I said.

A dictatorship doesn't give up any power. Your President is a puppet of his masters.
It's clear that you are wrong. President in Iran plays a dominant role especially in foreign policy. Just compare Ahmadinejad with Rouhani and analyze foreign policy of Iran in the age of both presidents.

I think that this, from Human Rights Watch speaks volumes about a typical Islamic state. You are delusional.

"Although Iran elected a moderate candidate, Hassan Rouhani, to be president in 2013, the country has seen no significant improvements in human rights. Repressive elements within the security and intelligence forces and the judiciary retain wider powers and continue to be the main perpetrators of rights abuses. In 2014 Iran had the second highest number of executions in the world after China, and executed the largest number of juvenile offenders. The country remains one of the biggest jailers in the world of journalists, bloggers, and social media activists. Prominent opposition figures Mir Hossein Mousavi, Zahra Rahnavard, and Mehdi Karroubi, held without charge or trial since February 2011, remain under house arrest".


Canada is on a totally different level as is most of the western world. We are the ones who have led humanity upwards with regards to human rights. This is why Muslims including Iranians (most prefer Persian) flock by the millions to Western countries. Islam has contributed nothing except to lead as example of what not to be.
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12/7/2015 8:46:25 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
I think that this, from Human Rights Watch speaks volumes about a typical Islamic state. You are delusional.
Not really!

"Although Iran elected a moderate candidate, Hassan Rouhani, to be president in 2013, the country has seen no significant improvements in human rights. Repressive elements within the security and intelligence forces and the judiciary retain wider powers and continue to be the main perpetrators of rights abuses.
President in Iran is the head of Mojriyya and has his own duties. Qazaiyya (judiciary ) has its own head. Thus, president has nothing to do with judiciary. The president can influence of economy and policy of Iran alot but it cannot change anything about judiciary.

In 2014 Iran had the second highest number of executions in the world after China, and executed the largest number of juvenile offenders. The country remains one of the biggest jailers in the world of journalists, bloggers, and social media activists.
Thats really nice that you care about human rights!! Make sure I can mention more about USA. Go on then...
1. Quantanamo prison abuse.
2. USA had used prohibited weapons in Fallujah of Iraq. Just check this link:
http://www.aljazeera.com...
3....
4....
5...
You will be a loser if we compare one by one.

Prominent opposition figures Mir Hossein Mousavi, Zahra Rahnavard, and Mehdi Karroubi, held without charge or trial since February 2011, remain under house arrest".
They deserve punishments even worse than that.

Before election : Hossein Mousavi's party announced that there might be fraud in the election.

During the election: Hossein Mousavi himself announced that he is the winner of the election and he is the president (The election was not finished and no one had counted the votes!!!)

After election: Hossein Mousavi asked his fans to make a revolution in Iran!!!

So funny and idiotic plan!!!

Canada is on a totally different level as is most of the western world. We are the ones who have led humanity upwards with regards to human rights. This is why Muslims including Iranians (most prefer Persian) flock by the millions to Western countries. Islam has contributed nothing except to lead as example of what not to be.
Dont be so much sure. There are many Muslims who leave Islam and go to West on the other hand there are so many Westerns who become Muslims!!
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12/8/2015 2:22:18 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/7/2015 8:46:25 PM, shalal12 wrote:
I think that this, from Human Rights Watch speaks volumes about a typical Islamic state. You are delusional.
Not really!

Yes, you are delusional and possibly an Islamist if you want to live in an Islamic state.

"Although Iran elected a moderate candidate, Hassan Rouhani, to be president in 2013, the country has seen no significant improvements in human rights. Repressive elements within the security and intelligence forces and the judiciary retain wider powers and continue to be the main perpetrators of rights abuses.
President in Iran is the head of Mojriyya and has his own duties. Qazaiyya (judiciary ) has its own head. Thus, president has nothing to do with judiciary. The president can influence of economy and policy of Iran alot but it cannot change anything about judiciary.

Iran still is a brutal state, much to the chagrin of the western looking populace, who just want to be free.:

In 2014 Iran had the second highest number of executions in the world after China, and executed the largest number of juvenile offenders. The country remains one of the biggest jailers in the world of journalists, bloggers, and social media activists.
Thats really nice that you care about human rights!! Make sure I can mention more about USA. Go on then...

The U.S. has done some things that are against their constitution because the U.S. has been hijacked by greedy bully banker and their puppets, including many of the U'S' presidents since WW2. The Bushes were evil maniacs and Obama is a puppet. The American people believe in freedom and they will have it again. Muslims, unless they live in the west do not know freedom.

1. Quantanamo prison abuse.

Was a disgrace and illegal for a western country but business as usual for most Muslim countries

2. USA had used prohibited weapons in Fallujah of Iraq. Just check this link:

Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on the Kurds.

http://www.aljazeera.com...
3....
4....
5...
You will be a loser if we compare one by one.

Sure. whatever

Prominent opposition figures Mir Hossein Mousavi, Zahra Rahnavard, and Mehdi Karroubi, held without charge or trial since February 2011, remain under house arrest".
They deserve punishments even worse than that.

Please tell me what they did to deserve this archaic treatment? What did they Do????

Before election : Hossein Mousavi's party announced that there might be fraud in the election.

During the election: Hossein Mousavi himself announced that he is the winner of the election and he is the president (The election was not finished and no one had counted the votes!!!)

After election: Hossein Mousavi asked his fans to make a revolution in Iran!!!

So funny and idiotic plan!!!

Iran needs a revolution. The government has useful idiots (not calling you an idiot-just a strong expression) much like yourself who want someone to control them. Their aren't enough so they rig the election. I live in a democracy so I know how an election and vote should be run to prevent fraud. You do not. See below.

:The problem with this election, according to London-based Mideast analyst Amir Taheri, is that there is no independent monitoring at all in Iran with the interior ministry arguing that the Council of the Guardians of the Constitution, a "star chamber" of 12 mullahs, would have that role.
"Candidates are not allowed to be present at polling stations during voting or counting. Many voters are illiterate and officials help them fill in their ballot papers, so the possibilities for rigging are immense. And there are no booths in the polling stations so voting is done in public, not in private -- a major obstacle for transparency,"
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Canada is on a totally different level as is most of the western world. We are the ones who have led humanity upwards with regards to human rights. This is why Muslims including Iranians (most prefer Persian) flock by the millions to Western countries. Islam has contributed nothing except to lead as example of what not to be.

Dont be so much sure. There are many Muslims who leave Islam and go to West on the other hand there are so many Westerns who become Muslims!!

Some (not many) do and many Musllms convert to Christianity. Many Muslims leave Islam. Many can't because of threats to their lives if they do.