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Reasoning
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10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
does not deserve his lofty reputation.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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10/7/2010 9:17:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

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10/7/2010 9:17:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 9:17:08 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

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Fail.

That was a smile, anyway. More accurately: This.
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10/7/2010 9:43:23 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

Thirded.
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10/7/2010 10:46:20 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'll see what Rothbard thinks of Mill, but I'd be surprised if it was positive.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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10/7/2010 1:57:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard

Quick... what does Rothbard have to say about pizza?
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10/7/2010 2:17:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 1:57:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard

Quick... what does Rothbard have to say about pizza?

Too late. What were Rothbards opinions on breast size?
Pizza. I have enormous respect for Pizza.
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10/7/2010 2:22:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 10:46:20 AM, Reasoning wrote:
I'll see what Rothbard thinks of Mill, but I'd be surprised if it was positive.

Sigged.
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10/7/2010 2:55:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

Brilliant inasmuch as he was of high intelligence? Sure. Otherwise--how so?
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10/7/2010 4:22:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard

J.S. Mill isn't overrated, Kant is. Nietzsche was probably a little off when he called Kant an idiot, but still.
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10/7/2010 4:40:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 2:55:21 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

Brilliant inasmuch as he was of high intelligence? Sure. Otherwise--how so?

i wasn't trying to imply anything else.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
comoncents
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10/7/2010 4:55:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

He was more "on to something great" then most.
He was smart, and gets what he deserves if you ask me.
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10/7/2010 5:08:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 1:57:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
Quick... what does Rothbard have to say about pizza?

I'd care more if he was a pizza connoisseur. As far as I know, he was not.

He was, however, an Economist who wrote two books on the history of economic thought and so his thoughts on Mill, an economist, are valuable.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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10/7/2010 5:09:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 4:22:09 PM, Freeman wrote:

J.S. Mill isn't overrated, Kant is. Nietzsche was probably a little off when he called Kant an idiot, but still.

Kant > Mill. Truth.
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10/7/2010 5:12:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 4:40:22 PM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 2:55:21 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

Brilliant inasmuch as he was of high intelligence? Sure. Otherwise--how so?

i wasn't trying to imply anything else.

Even people of high intelligence have to earn their reputation.
belle
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10/7/2010 5:24:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 5:12:50 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/7/2010 4:40:22 PM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 2:55:21 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/7/2010 6:38:04 AM, belle wrote:
At 10/7/2010 12:50:07 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/6/2010 11:41:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
does not deserve his lofty reputation.

Wasn't aware he had one.

he does. and i think you'll find that he does deserve it because he was a brilliant man.

Brilliant inasmuch as he was of high intelligence? Sure. Otherwise--how so?

i wasn't trying to imply anything else.

Even people of high intelligence have to earn their reputation.

by demonstrating their intelligence, not by being proven right 200 years later.

i dunno if you read a lot of books on evolutionary theory, but theres an extremely amusing phenomenon, whereby pretty much EVERYONE mentions how brilliant stephen jay gould was, and how much he is respected in the world of biology etc.... and then goes on to rip his views to shreds. he has a great reputation, not because he was always right (if anything most biologists think he was almost always wrong) but because he was brilliant despite being wrong.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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10/7/2010 5:28:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard

I'll see what Rothbard thinks of people quoting him constantly, but I'd be surprised it it was positive.
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10/7/2010 5:51:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/7/2010 5:28:50 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 10/7/2010 1:34:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
"John Stuart was the quintessence of soft rather than hardcore,a woolly minded man of mush in striking contrast to his steel-edged father [James Mill]. . . . John [Stuart] Mill's enormou spopularity and stature in the British intellectual world was partially due to his very mush-headedness." - Murray Rothbard

I'll see what Rothbard thinks of people quoting him constantly, but I'd be surprised it it was positive.

"...w...a...t..." - Rothbard