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UtherPenguin
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12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '

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Geogeer
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12/13/2015 3:06:45 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '


http://www.metronews.ca...

It is so sad that all you can do is laugh (it keeps us Albertans from weeping). The longstanding centre right party was voted out after over 4 decades governing. Why? They were tired of a party that wouldn't listen to the people and acted as if governing was a right rather than a duty. What happens? In less than 6 months the far left party, that claimed it was about listening to the people, is ramming through legislation faster than Europe can let the middle east swarm though their borders.

Times were too good here and people forgot that the government you choose can have serious ramifications. The fact that we chose the worst possible party as the economy took a massive hit is just the icing on the cake.
lotsoffun
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12/13/2015 3:13:06 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '


http://www.metronews.ca...

It's obvious that not many people outside of Canada care or know about Canadian issues so, being Canadian, I'll answer. I was horrified and shocked when Albertans voted in these clowns. It was obviously a protest vote that went awry. It reminds me of when Ontario, which had a Conservative government for over 40 years went NDP. We know how that turned out. But alas, after a decade of Conservatives again, we now have the most despicable, corrupt, condescending, patronizing and incompetent Liberal government in the history of Canada. Worry not about Alberta, because the NDP will be voted out in the next election, after great damage, but hold a vigil for Ontario, because the government is literally destroying this once great province. It is so bizarre that they got re-elected after their first 8 years of corruption.
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12/13/2015 3:18:54 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/13/2015 3:06:45 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '


http://www.metronews.ca...

It is so sad that all you can do is laugh (it keeps us Albertans from weeping). The longstanding centre right party was voted out after over 4 decades governing. Why? They were tired of a party that wouldn't listen to the people and acted as if governing was a right rather than a duty. What happens? In less than 6 months the far left party, that claimed it was about listening to the people, is ramming through legislation faster than Europe can let the middle east swarm though their borders.

Times were too good here and people forgot that the government you choose can have serious ramifications. The fact that we chose the worst possible party as the economy took a massive hit is just the icing on the cake.

I could imagine them being elected out almost as quickly as them being elected in, only in a more predictable manner.
"Praise Allah."
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12/13/2015 5:56:41 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/13/2015 3:18:54 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 12/13/2015 3:06:45 AM, Geogeer wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '


http://www.metronews.ca...

It is so sad that all you can do is laugh (it keeps us Albertans from weeping). The longstanding centre right party was voted out after over 4 decades governing. Why? They were tired of a party that wouldn't listen to the people and acted as if governing was a right rather than a duty. What happens? In less than 6 months the far left party, that claimed it was about listening to the people, is ramming through legislation faster than Europe can let the middle east swarm though their borders.

Times were too good here and people forgot that the government you choose can have serious ramifications. The fact that we chose the worst possible party as the economy took a massive hit is just the icing on the cake.

I could imagine them being elected out almost as quickly as them being elected in, only in a more predictable manner.

Their fate is already sealed. The question is, is Alberta's already sealed.
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12/13/2015 3:10:39 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
Further proof the NDP is incapable of governing. The were given Albera on a silver paler and rather than so the logical thing (build a centrist coalition) they are just jamming through as much stuff as possible. Never mind at everything they are doing can and will be repealed by the next government.

Then again, you'd expect he Tories and Wildrose (who got well over 55% of the vote combined) to reach some kind of coalition or stand-down agreement, and they haven't. They have plenty of time, but another split vote means another NDP government.
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12/13/2015 4:12:17 PM
Posted: 12 months ago
I can't say I know of the issue facing Alberta other than the oil crash. As I understand the farm bill just brings AB up to worker safety standards that the other provinces have had for some time.

Recession will break any party in terms of favor ability.
Geogeer
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12/14/2015 8:32:14 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/13/2015 3:13:06 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 12/12/2015 4:53:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Provincial polls show NDP support dropped to 29% from the 36% high since the previous election. Support for the Wildrose Party rising back to 33%.

'ThinkHQ president Marc Henry said the NDP retreat mimics the wave of support that took them to a majority government.

That wave's receding and it's almost receding in the same fashion it went out, said Henry.
Henry said recent legislation put out by the NDP - controversial Bill 6 and the climate change legislation - played some role in the party's decline, but he said the state of Alberta's economy is putting downward pressure on popularity.

'People in Alberta are anxious about the economy. It's not as though people blame the government for the straits that we're in" it's not their fault that oil's at $37 per barrel, '


http://www.metronews.ca...

It's obvious that not many people outside of Canada care or know about Canadian issues so, being Canadian, I'll answer. I was horrified and shocked when Albertans voted in these clowns. It was obviously a protest vote that went awry. It reminds me of when Ontario, which had a Conservative government for over 40 years went NDP. We know how that turned out. But alas, after a decade of Conservatives again, we now have the most despicable, corrupt, condescending, patronizing and incompetent Liberal government in the history of Canada. Worry not about Alberta, because the NDP will be voted out in the next election, after great damage, but hold a vigil for Ontario, because the government is literally destroying this once great province. It is so bizarre that they got re-elected after their first 8 years of corruption.

I've always wondered who in their right mind voted Wynn in? Maybe it was all the migrants from down east to Alberta that resulted in the NDP. ;-)
Geogeer
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12/14/2015 8:39:04 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/13/2015 3:10:39 PM, TN05 wrote:
Further proof the NDP is incapable of governing. The were given Albera on a silver paler and rather than so the logical thing (build a centrist coalition) they are just jamming through as much stuff as possible. Never mind at everything they are doing can and will be repealed by the next government.

Then again, you'd expect he Tories and Wildrose (who got well over 55% of the vote combined) to reach some kind of coalition or stand-down agreement, and they haven't. They have plenty of time, but another split vote means another NDP government.

It isn't that simple. You have to realize that the Wild Rose is a rejection of the previous party just as the PCs were of the Social Credit before them. I firmly believe that the rise of the NDP was primarily 3 fold.

1) Prentice came in promising difference and immediately began playing politics.

2) The Wild Rose lost all credibility of forming government when the leader of the party crossed the floor with a bunch of other candidates. Who in their right mind crosses the floor when your the leader of the Opposition who had was gaining in the polls? (Preston Manning's worst advise ever!)

3) The economy had been doing too well for too long and soon everybody feels that there should be a feed trough instead of realizing that spikes in the economy are cyclical and shouldn't be considered a norm that can continue.
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12/14/2015 8:45:16 AM
Posted: 12 months ago
At 12/13/2015 4:12:17 PM, slo1 wrote:
I can't say I know of the issue facing Alberta other than the oil crash. As I understand the farm bill just brings AB up to worker safety standards that the other provinces have had for some time.

Recession will break any party in terms of favor ability.

And it is poor legislation that was implemented without consultation. WCB is really one of the worst programs. Many farmers already have superior plans for their employees, which will now have to be cut because of forced integration into WCB - which there is continual complaints with from people who are supposed to be receiving compensation.

You'll find down the road that the primary objective of this bill will have been to make unionization of farm workers easier.