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lotsoffun
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12/20/2015 2:54:45 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

It's so typical how the interviewer was so uncomfortable and so afraid of calling a spade a spade. What a coward. Bill Maher speaks the truth. I wish the west would wake up to the cowardly lies it tells itself about Islam.
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12/20/2015 5:05:53 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
Islam was founded and developed within the context of a tribal society. Christianity was not; in fact, Judea was subjugated by a foreign power: the Roman Empire.
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12/20/2015 12:01:34 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
The significant difference is not between religions per se but between theocracy and secularism. If - may if never happen - the religious right gained full political power in the US (so it could pass what laws it liked and so on), I fear America would soon resemble Saudi Arabia.

It is perfectly possible to interpret Christianity (with its OT roots) in a way practically indistinguishable from Sharia. We don't interpret our religion that because the west always maintained a secular counter-balance to the power of the priesthood, historically in the form of kings and queens and more recently in the form of democratic, secular institutions. For historical reasons, the secular counter-weight to the priests was lost in the Islamic world, with disasterous consequences.

In my view, a Judeo-Christian theocracy would be little or no better than an Islamic theocracy, and a secularised Muslim state can be as liberal as any country in the west. Indeed, the real enemy of Islamic extremism is not America or Christians but moderate, secularist Muslims. Jihadists have probably killed 10 moderate Muslims for every Christian they have killed.

That is not so say that the doctrine and dogma of Islam is defensible - it isn't. But neither is the doctrine and dogma of Judaeo-Christianity. It is only that we in the west have been spared the worst excesses of theocracy that there is such an apparent difference.
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12/20/2015 2:41:13 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 12:01:34 PM, kp98 wrote:
The significant difference is not between religions per se but between theocracy and secularism. If - may if never happen - the religious right gained full political power in the US (so it could pass what laws it liked and so on), I fear America would soon resemble Saudi Arabia.

It is perfectly possible to interpret Christianity (with its OT roots) in a way practically indistinguishable from Sharia. We don't interpret our religion that because the west always maintained a secular counter-balance to the power of the priesthood, historically in the form of kings and queens and more recently in the form of democratic, secular institutions. For historical reasons, the secular counter-weight to the priests was lost in the Islamic world, with disasterous consequences.

This isn't true at all. The line was pretty much erased by Byzantine caesaropapism, and in the Islamic world the ulama (scholarly class) were very much separate from the ruling political class. The mihna crisis during the Abbasid caliphate was an example of an attempted blended of religious and political authority, and it was clearly resolved in favor of separation. Contrast that to how medieval Christendom worked, and you see the opposite outcome: Rome had such influence over monarchs that it literally launched Crusades aimed at purging dissident sects (Hussite and Albigensian crusades). Look at the Concordat of 1516, which gave the French Kings the power to appoint bishops, leading to widespread abuse and decadence as the property of the church was turned into a private retirement fund for well-connected nobility. At the same time, it obligated the King to support the church against both Protestant heretics and reformers who challenged the politically entrenched, corrupt establishment, fomenting hundreds of years of religious warfare. The problems in the Middle East, by contrast, have gotten much worse only in recent years, with the rise of a sect (Salafism/Wahabbism) which rejects the traditional doctrinal pluralism embraced by Islam. Did Europe have secular justice? Yes, but it was still modeled after religious codes of behavior. Islam, on the other hand, never engaged in the political entanglements necessary to police doctrine and enforce orthodoxy, with two exceptions: one dissident sect which perished in Islam's infancy, and one which is a relatively recent invention (about 200 years old).

In my view, a Judeo-Christian theocracy would be little or no better than an Islamic theocracy, and a secularised Muslim state can be as liberal as any country in the west. Indeed, the real enemy of Islamic extremism is not America or Christians but moderate, secularist Muslims. Jihadists have probably killed 10 moderate Muslims for every Christian they have killed.

Traditional Muslims are a much more effective enemy. It's why the few traditional Muslims states remaining, like Morocco, have resisted Salafism so strongly.

That is not so say that the doctrine and dogma of Islam is defensible - it isn't. But neither is the doctrine and dogma of Judaeo-Christianity. It is only that we in the west have been spared the worst excesses of theocracy that there is such an apparent difference.

We really haven't; that requires an incredibly selective reading of both Middle Eastern and European history.
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12/20/2015 9:03:02 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
Very good. Your post amplifies and improves on what I said rather than contradicting it. Unfortunately it takes more than a few paragraphs to the history justice, although you did better than me! I hope people check it out for themselves.

I want to emphasise that the difference between Christianity (or 'Christian societies') and Islam (or 'Islamic societies') lies less in doctrinal differences but in the difference between how the relationship between religion and politics have developed in the two cases.

I think this can be well illustrated by imagining what an America run by the religious right would look like, for example its attitudes to abortion, homosexuality and the death penalty. Stoning for adultery is mandated biblically - that 'we' don't stone adulters but 'they' do is not because Judeo-Christianity is 'better' or 'nicer' than Islam but because we have a far less theocratic tradition and so have been able to conveniently ignore inconvenient aspects of our nominal religion.

While I have no desire to live under Sharia law, I do not imagine that living in a theocratic Christian regime would be any better. Indeed, because religions can be interpreted in any number of ways which nominal religion it is matters less than the way it is manifested in the political and social arena.
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12/20/2015 10:25:01 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 12:01:34 PM, kp98 wrote:
The significant difference is not between religions per se but between theocracy and secularism. If - may if never happen - the religious right gained full political power in the US (so it could pass what laws it liked and so on), I fear America would soon resemble Saudi Arabia.

It is perfectly possible to interpret Christianity (with its OT roots) in a way practically indistinguishable from Sharia. We don't interpret our religion that because the west always maintained a secular counter-balance to the power of the priesthood, historically in the form of kings and queens and more recently in the form of democratic, secular institutions. For historical reasons, the secular counter-weight to the priests was lost in the Islamic world, with disasterous consequences.

In my view, a Judeo-Christian theocracy would be little or no better than an Islamic theocracy, and a secularised Muslim state can be as liberal as any country in the west. Indeed, the real enemy of Islamic extremism is not America or Christians but moderate, secularist Muslims. Jihadists have probably killed 10 moderate Muslims for every Christian they have killed.

That is not so say that the doctrine and dogma of Islam is defensible - it isn't. But neither is the doctrine and dogma of Judaeo-Christianity. It is only that we in the west have been spared the worst excesses of theocracy that there is such an apparent difference.

Jesus was attacked by the Pharisees with the Old Testament. He didn't allow it rule over him. He even deflected it. There is a reason Christians do not practice animal sacrifice, we do eat anything we want, and we hang out with whomever we want. Him.
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12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.
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12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it.
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12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.
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12/21/2015 12:34:25 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.

There is a difference whether created by man or not. The hierarchial leader of Christianity is Christ. The hierarchial leader of Islam is Muhammed. And their two concepts of ideology are polar opposite. It's like saying Naziism, , Democracy, and anarchy are the same because man created them.
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12/21/2015 12:43:52 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:34:25 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.

There is a difference whether created by man or not. The hierarchial leader of Christianity is Christ. The hierarchial leader of Islam is Muhammed. And their two concepts of ideology are polar opposite. It's like saying Naziism, , Democracy, and anarchy are the same because man created them. : :

You're still being influenced by the Beast where all religious thoughts came from. Jesus and the rest of us saints came to teach what the Beast is. It was religious people who stole the ideas from our testimonies and started Christianity. Christians continued to build objects ( church buildings, altars, etc. ) with their human hands until the end of this first age.

God planned on destroying everything we observe in this world on the last day of this first age. All the visible objects including all flesh will be burned up with fire.

Matthew 24
14: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11: Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
12: waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
13: But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
8: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."
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12/21/2015 12:50:16 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:43:52 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:34:25 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.

There is a difference whether created by man or not. The hierarchial leader of Christianity is Christ. The hierarchial leader of Islam is Muhammed. And their two concepts of ideology are polar opposite. It's like saying Naziism, , Democracy, and anarchy are the same because man created them. : :

You're still being influenced by the Beast where all religious thoughts came from. Jesus and the rest of us saints came to teach what the Beast is. It was religious people who stole the ideas from our testimonies and started Christianity. Christians continued to build objects ( church buildings, altars, etc. ) with their human hands until the end of this first age.

God planned on destroying everything we observe in this world on the last day of this first age. All the visible objects including all flesh will be burned up with fire.

Matthew 24
14: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11: Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
12: waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
13: But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
8: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you."
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12/21/2015 12:52:19 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:50:16 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:43:52 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:34:25 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.

There is a difference whether created by man or not. The hierarchial leader of Christianity is Christ. The hierarchial leader of Islam is Muhammed. And their two concepts of ideology are polar opposite. It's like saying Naziism, , Democracy, and anarchy are the same because man created them. : :

You're still being influenced by the Beast where all religious thoughts came from. Jesus and the rest of us saints came to teach what the Beast is. It was religious people who stole the ideas from our testimonies and started Christianity. Christians continued to build objects ( church buildings, altars, etc. ) with their human hands until the end of this first age.

God planned on destroying everything we observe in this world on the last day of this first age. All the visible objects including all flesh will be burned up with fire.

Matthew 24
14: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11: Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
12: waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
13: But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
8: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so.
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12/21/2015 12:53:02 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
You have said I am under the beast which is a declaration that I am going to Hell. In Revelation it says that any who follow after the beast were thrown into the Lake of fire. You say I am of the beast but know nothing of my heart or actions. It makes me very weary of you. Wolves in sheeps clothing were one of his warnings.
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12/21/2015 12:55:39 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:53:02 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
You have said I am under the beast which is a declaration that I am going to Hell. In Revelation it says that any who follow after the beast were thrown into the Lake of fire. You say I am of the beast but know nothing of my heart or actions. It makes me very weary of you. Wolves in sheeps clothing were one of his warnings. : :

Only the flesh of man which is of this world will be destroyed. The spirit of man is information called the Word of the Lord. This is our true created existence and out of that information will be all kinds of visible objects for us to experience in Paradise ( New Heaven and Earth ).

Don't worry about anything that happens in the future. Our Creator is responsible for everything He created and formed for us to observe.
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12/21/2015 12:55:48 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

The punishments for Apostasy, homosexuality, unbelief and adultery in Islam are death. In Christianity the punishment or lackthereof is in God's hands.

Both beliefs believe in an Armageddonlike event. The difference is in Christianity only God himself can fulfill. In Islam it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they can bring on themselves. In Islam, women are subjegated to their husband, cannot go in public without a man, and cannot deny their husband sex if he wants it. : :

There's no difference between the various religions of this world. All religions came from the building of objects with human hands through God's program called the Beast. For every object built with human hands, there gets to be several different sets of language ( knowledge ) that goes along with it.

The higher level of language is the thoughts that came into the architects mind directly from our Creator to build something on this earth that has never been seen before. The next level of language is the one that is used by the slaves who build the objects. The next level after that is the language of the slaves who clean and maintain the object. The bottom levels are those who use and live with the object.

Every religion has a hierarchy with a leader, who is usually the one who gets the ideas to build an object with human hands. All the rest of the people who surround the object are the slaves.

Judaism is a religion that came out of the Beast that the Jews were involved in after their release by the Babylonians who captured many of them and brought them back to Babylon. It was there that the children of the Jews got the Beast in their minds as it was taught to them by the leaders of Babylon. Those who learned to build objects with their human hands went back to Jerusalem to start building objects ( tabernacles, altars, etc. ).

When the first saints began testifying to the knowledge of God, the Beast was revealed to them. So all us saints learn how the religions of the world were formed and why God needed them to build objects until we have the modern computer technology today so that God could teach us how He created everything with his voice.

There is a difference whether created by man or not. The hierarchial leader of Christianity is Christ. The hierarchial leader of Islam is Muhammed. And their two concepts of ideology are polar opposite. It's like saying Naziism, , Democracy, and anarchy are the same because man created them. : :

You're still being influenced by the Beast where all religious thoughts came from. Jesus and the rest of us saints came to teach what the Beast is. It was religious people who stole the ideas from our testimonies and started Christianity. Christians continued to build objects ( church buildings, altars, etc. ) with their human hands until the end of this first age.

God planned on destroying everything we observe in this world on the last day of this first age. All the visible objects including all flesh will be burned up with fire.

Matthew 24
14: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11: Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
12: waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
13: But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
8: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so

YOU are? That says it all now doesn't it?

It is a logical fallacy to denounce religion, then get your information
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12/21/2015 12:59:39 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:55:48 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...


Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so.

YOU are? That says it all now doesn't it? : :

The one who is writing this post is not our Creator but is being used by our Creator as His writer and speaker.

It is a logical fallacy to denounce religion, then get your information.

I don't need a book to get my information. I AM where all information ( thoughts ) comes from. All the writer of this post had to do was write and speak for Me to witness the information I revealed through those testimonies.
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12/21/2015 1:02:36 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:59:39 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:55:48 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...


Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so.

YOU are? That says it all now doesn't it? : :

The one who is writing this post is not our Creator but is being used by our Creator as His writer and speaker.

It is a logical fallacy to denounce religion, then get your information.

I don't need a book to get my information. I AM where all information ( thoughts ) comes from. All the writer of this post had to do was write and speak for Me to witness the information I revealed through those testimonies.

And the words revealed were from Christianity, yet you denounce the very religion your so called revelation came from. Do you know what a troll smells like?
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12/21/2015 1:06:25 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:02:36 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:59:39 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:55:48 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...


Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so.

YOU are? That says it all now doesn't it? : :

The one who is writing this post is not our Creator but is being used by our Creator as His writer and speaker.

It is a logical fallacy to denounce religion, then get your information.

I don't need a book to get my information. I AM where all information ( thoughts ) comes from. All the writer of this post had to do was write and speak for Me to witness the information I revealed through those testimonies.

And the words revealed were from Christianity, yet you denounce the very religion your so called revelation came from. Do you know what a troll smells like? : :

All the ORIGINAL words that us saints and prophets wrote and spoke for our Creator were stolen from God's religious people who have no clue who He is. They are the one's who produced the holy books and added all their religious dogma to them. This is why everyone who reads those holy books remain confused as to how God created everything with His voice.
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12/21/2015 1:38:32 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:06:25 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:02:36 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:59:39 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:55:48 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:24:11 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 12:14:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...


Ezekiel 22
19: Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have all become dross, therefore, behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.
20: As men gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into a furnace, to blow the fire upon it in order to melt it; so I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath, and I will put you in and melt you.
21: I will gather you and blow upon you with the fire of my wrath, and you shall be melted in the midst of it.
22: As silver is melted in a furnace, so you shall be melted in the midst of it; and you shall know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath upon you."
23: And the word of the LORD came to me:

Then a NEW HEAVEN and EARTH will be revealed to His created beings as they awaken in new flesh;

Ezekiel 37:

1: The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
2: And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
3: And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, thou knowest."
4: Again he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5: Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD."

False religion is evil yes. But if religion is evil, period then why are you quoting it? And if youbelieve the book that you have quoted why have you not applied: "judge not lest ye be judged. For by the measure you judge, so shall ye be judged." "Even Michael whenarguing with Satan over the body of Moses did not judge but said"God judge you." : :

I AM the judge and the author of all knowledge. If you listen to My voice and believe it to be true, then you were chosen to do so.

YOU are? That says it all now doesn't it? : :

The one who is writing this post is not our Creator but is being used by our Creator as His writer and speaker.

It is a logical fallacy to denounce religion, then get your information.

I don't need a book to get my information. I AM where all information ( thoughts ) comes from. All the writer of this post had to do was write and speak for Me to witness the information I revealed through those testimonies.

And the words revealed were from Christianity, yet you denounce the very religion your so called revelation came from. Do you know what a troll smells like? : :

All the ORIGINAL words that us saints and prophets wrote and spoke for our Creator were stolen from God's religious people who have no clue who He is. They are the one's who produced the holy books and added all their religious dogma to them. This is why everyone who reads those holy books remain confused as to how God created everything with His voice.

Without one of those religious books you'd have none of your quotes or concepts to begin with. It's a good thing that Christianity preserved the Bible for you to quote in the first place. The words are life when YOU hear them but death when a Christian hears them?
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12/21/2015 3:01:57 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:36:42 PM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/19/2015 6:55:32 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
http://youtu.be...

When a Christian kills several innocent people, the Christian media does not look at it as an act of terror.

When a Muslim kills several innocent people, it is a terrorist act.

The difference between Christianity and Islam in the U.S. is that one of the religions is more acceptable than the other.

When a Christian kills it's because he is a killer, whether a premeditated or accidental one. It's not done in the name of Christianity. Although there are Muslim killers who are similar, there are many who kill for Islam. These clowns actually believe God wants them to kill for him. Christianity is more acceptable in the U.S. because it is the dominant religion. Islam is very minor and not trusted at this point in time.
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12/21/2015 9:39:24 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
If we keep in mind that religions are human inventions and reflect the conditions under which they developed there are some clues as to some aspects of the difference between Judaeo-Christianity and Islam.

The Hebrews/Jews were a small nation, constantly under threat from stonger neighbours. Thus - apart from the occupation of Israel - it is not too concerned with expansionist politics; it is more concerned with defence and the preservation of their national culture, particularly its YHWHist religion. Christianity developed at a time when the Jews were politicailly impotent. They were - and had been for sometime - oppressed by a series of foreign oppressors, and there was no realistically foreseeable prospect of any improvement. That is why Christianity concentrates on a world other than this one (quite unlike traditional Judaism) - Christianity is a religion that makes a virtue out of political weakness, economic poverty, and of being oppressed. It is a religion for those without hope of improvement in their earthly lot.

Islam however seems to have arisen as a tool of Mohammedan imperialist expansion, as a method of uniting an expanding empire of many different tribes and faiths. It shows signs being artificially designed for that purpose, taking Judaism as as starting point, but to suit its political purpose it Islam emphasises aggressive war and conquest. For example, it explicitly demands loyalty, decreeing capital punishment for apostasy in precise analogy to the usual punisment for betraying one's nation and casts non-Muslims very much as enemies as at the time they were the enemy in resisiting Muhammedan expansion.

I don't propose the above lines as a complete statement of the complex historical, social and political forces that shape all religions, but I would like people to think in terms of religions as reflections of the social conditions of their time.