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allansthunder
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12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?
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12/25/2015 3:38:17 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

http://www.debate.org...

Most are Conservative

Merry Christmas :D
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12/25/2015 1:32:09 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

I'm a Moderate, and I am the "aggressor" a lot because I find Liberalism and Consrvatism both extremist points of view. I believe in the right to a firearm, support gay rights, support some abortion, and do not agree with bringing in Syrian refugees for matters of nationalsecurity.
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12/25/2015 5:00:04 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 3:38:17 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

http://www.debate.org...

Most are Conservative

Merry Christmas :D
I don't know if that is necessarily true though, if you're just saying that because of the 17%-16% conservative to liberal ratio.

Socialists, Greens, and Progressives, for example, might be grouped in with the "left" side of the political spectrum, and those ideologies account for 6%, 3%, and 7% of the user base respectively. Even communists fall on the "left" side of the political spectrum, so to speak, so I think it is misleading to say that the 'conservatives' are the most populated and pronounced group on the site.

Really, it'd be more accurate to take this:

Right - 17%
Left - 16% (+ 16% from progressives, greens, socialists) = 32%

Now, of course, it's obvious that these statistics can never be completely accurate because a) listing your political ideology isn't mandatory, nor something that a majority of members even do and b) it could be argued that the 'right' side is being shafted because libertarians also tend to be more conservative than liberal, which steals from conservative support just as the other liberal ideologies did.

But all in all, I think it's (probably unintentionally) misleading when people use this demographics page to prove that DDO is conservative.
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Daltonian
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12/25/2015 5:02:08 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
And really, trying to classify such a diverse user base with terms so broad, vague, and really, inapplicable as "left or right" or "liberal or conservative" isn't really productive, because political views - especially in intellectual communities like this - tend to have a deeper complexity to them than that. We just let that idea of "left vs right" divide us in that sense.
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12/25/2015 5:12:40 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 5:00:04 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:38:17 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

http://www.debate.org...

Most are Conservative

Merry Christmas :D
I don't know if that is necessarily true though, if you're just saying that because of the 17%-16% conservative to liberal ratio.

Socialists, Greens, and Progressives, for example, might be grouped in with the "left" side of the political spectrum, and those ideologies account for 6%, 3%, and 7% of the user base respectively. Even communists fall on the "left" side of the political spectrum, so to speak, so I think it is misleading to say that the 'conservatives' are the most populated and pronounced group on the site.

Really, it'd be more accurate to take this:

Right - 17%
Left - 16% (+ 16% from progressives, greens, socialists) = 32%

Now, of course, it's obvious that these statistics can never be completely accurate because a) listing your political ideology isn't mandatory, nor something that a majority of members even do and b) it could be argued that the 'right' side is being shafted because libertarians also tend to be more conservative than liberal, which steals from conservative support just as the other liberal ideologies did.

But all in all, I think it's (probably unintentionally) misleading when people use this demographics page to prove that DDO is conservative.

I would say that Libertarian could be put under right wing. Most Libertarians are right wing - as in, you won't see too many Libertarians voting Democrat, which is left wing.

Socially they may be liberal, but fiscally they are conservative, and in politics, at least for educated people, fiscal is what matters most.

In that case, if you were to add up the numbers, you would get 27% on the right side of the spectrum.

In terms of Democrats or Republicans, there are 4% more Dems then there are Republicans.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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12/25/2015 5:20:02 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 5:12:40 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 12/25/2015 5:00:04 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:38:17 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

http://www.debate.org...

Most are Conservative

Merry Christmas :D
I don't know if that is necessarily true though, if you're just saying that because of the 17%-16% conservative to liberal ratio.

Socialists, Greens, and Progressives, for example, might be grouped in with the "left" side of the political spectrum, and those ideologies account for 6%, 3%, and 7% of the user base respectively. Even communists fall on the "left" side of the political spectrum, so to speak, so I think it is misleading to say that the 'conservatives' are the most populated and pronounced group on the site.

Really, it'd be more accurate to take this:

Right - 17%
Left - 16% (+ 16% from progressives, greens, socialists) = 32%

Now, of course, it's obvious that these statistics can never be completely accurate because a) listing your political ideology isn't mandatory, nor something that a majority of members even do and b) it could be argued that the 'right' side is being shafted because libertarians also tend to be more conservative than liberal, which steals from conservative support just as the other liberal ideologies did.

But all in all, I think it's (probably unintentionally) misleading when people use this demographics page to prove that DDO is conservative.

I would say that Libertarian could be put under right wing. Most Libertarians are right wing - as in, you won't see too many Libertarians voting Democrat, which is left wing.

Socially they may be liberal, but fiscally they are conservative, and in politics, at least for educated people, fiscal is what matters most.
And I would tend to agree, but I don't think that it is necessarily true to put ALL of them under right wing. Leftist libertarianism exists, and, depending on what issues are priorities for them as voters and as people, it's entirely plausible and reasonable that someone who identifies simply as "libertarian" could have sufficient reason to align themselves with the left and the Democratic Party. It isn't really fair to assess all of those who identify as libertarians as universally conservative voters, as we have no way of truly identifying the proportionality of Conservative Libertarians to Left Wing Libertarians, even if we can speculate that there are probably significantly more of the former.

In that case, if you were to add up the numbers, you would get 27% on the right side of the spectrum.

In terms of Democrats or Republicans, there are 4% more Dems then there are Republicans.
I think we can then agree that, even if in accurate, unreflective, or imprecise, these statistics indicate that there are more left-wing users and Democrats on the site.
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12/25/2015 5:27:44 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 5:20:02 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 12/25/2015 5:12:40 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 12/25/2015 5:00:04 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:38:17 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

http://www.debate.org...

Most are Conservative

Merry Christmas :D
I don't know if that is necessarily true though, if you're just saying that because of the 17%-16% conservative to liberal ratio.

Socialists, Greens, and Progressives, for example, might be grouped in with the "left" side of the political spectrum, and those ideologies account for 6%, 3%, and 7% of the user base respectively. Even communists fall on the "left" side of the political spectrum, so to speak, so I think it is misleading to say that the 'conservatives' are the most populated and pronounced group on the site.

Really, it'd be more accurate to take this:

Right - 17%
Left - 16% (+ 16% from progressives, greens, socialists) = 32%

Now, of course, it's obvious that these statistics can never be completely accurate because a) listing your political ideology isn't mandatory, nor something that a majority of members even do and b) it could be argued that the 'right' side is being shafted because libertarians also tend to be more conservative than liberal, which steals from conservative support just as the other liberal ideologies did.

But all in all, I think it's (probably unintentionally) misleading when people use this demographics page to prove that DDO is conservative.

I would say that Libertarian could be put under right wing. Most Libertarians are right wing - as in, you won't see too many Libertarians voting Democrat, which is left wing.

Socially they may be liberal, but fiscally they are conservative, and in politics, at least for educated people, fiscal is what matters most.
And I would tend to agree, but I don't think that it is necessarily true to put ALL of them under right wing. Leftist libertarianism exists, and, depending on what issues are priorities for them as voters and as people, it's entirely plausible and reasonable that someone who identifies simply as "libertarian" could have sufficient reason to align themselves with the left and the Democratic Party. It isn't really fair to assess all of those who identify as libertarians as universally conservative voters, as we have no way of truly identifying the proportionality of Conservative Libertarians to Left Wing Libertarians, even if we can speculate that there are probably significantly more of the former.

In that case, if you were to add up the numbers, you would get 27% on the right side of the spectrum.

In terms of Democrats or Republicans, there are 4% more Dems then there are Republicans.
I think we can then agree that, even if in accurate, unreflective, or imprecise, these statistics indicate that there are more left-wing users and Democrats on the site.

It's still pretty safe to assume that most Libertarians will be right wing. Regardless, there's more identified leftists on here than rightists.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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12/26/2015 1:13:27 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 1:32:09 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

I'm a Moderate, and I am the "aggressor" a lot because I find Liberalism and Consrvatism both extremist points of view. I believe in the right to a firearm, support gay rights, support some abortion, and do not agree with bringing in Syrian refugees for matters of nationalsecurity.

A moderate Republican, I like it. Who is your preferred candidate for the 2016 race right now?
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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12/26/2015 1:37:41 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

I'm an independent however most of my views align with the republican party although I do not agree with all of their beliefs. I consider myself a conservative independent.
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12/26/2015 4:30:40 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/26/2015 1:13:27 AM, Contra wrote:
At 12/25/2015 1:32:09 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

I'm a Moderate, and I am the "aggressor" a lot because I find Liberalism and Consrvatism both extremist points of view. I believe in the right to a firearm, support gay rights, support some abortion, and do not agree with bringing in Syrian refugees for matters of nationalsecurity.

A moderate Republican, I like it. Who is your preferred candidate for the 2016 race right now?

Democrat would be Bernie. Republican would be Christie.

I'm a registered Republican, but I supported Bill Clinton and think he was a fine President overall. I supported Bush but ridiculed him quite a bit about the handling of Iraq. I have not supported the current President at all..
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12/27/2015 2:31:37 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/26/2015 4:30:40 AM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 12/26/2015 1:13:27 AM, Contra wrote:
At 12/25/2015 1:32:09 PM, IntellectVsSpirit5000 wrote:
At 12/25/2015 3:32:14 AM, allansthunder wrote:
I am just curious if the majority of People who take interest in debating (as i assume includes everyone on this site) are democrats or republicans?

Which side likes to debate more than the other? Which is the primary aggressor in debating?

I'm a Moderate, and I am the "aggressor" a lot because I find Liberalism and Consrvatism both extremist points of view. I believe in the right to a firearm, support gay rights, support some abortion, and do not agree with bringing in Syrian refugees for matters of nationalsecurity.

A moderate Republican, I like it. Who is your preferred candidate for the 2016 race right now?

Democrat would be Bernie. Republican would be Christie.

I'm a registered Republican, but I supported Bill Clinton and think he was a fine President overall. I supported Bush but ridiculed him quite a bit about the handling of Iraq. I have not supported the current President at all..

President Bush's handling of Iraq and domestic policy make me wary to call myself a Republican at all, to be honest. I see your angst there.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan