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12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.
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12/29/2015 7:57:23 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Fvck Turkey
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12/30/2015 4:15:39 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Why would the Turks, ISIS, and the Kurds all be lying to cover each other's asses, when ISIS is fighting the Kurds, the Kurds are antagonizing Turkey, and Turkey is sort of slapping ISIS whenever they do something to annoy them, but otherwise letting them do what they want with the Kurds and Assad? And why are we taking Russia's word that it's Isis's crude, when it is definitely in Russia's best interest to drive a wedge between Turkey, the US, and the Kurds? From that article, they don't have any proof of this at all...
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12/30/2015 4:22:04 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 4:15:39 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Why would the Turks, ISIS, and the Kurds all be lying to cover each other's asses, when ISIS is fighting the Kurds, the Kurds are antagonizing Turkey, and Turkey is sort of slapping ISIS whenever they do something to annoy them, but otherwise letting them do what they want with the Kurds and Assad? And why are we taking Russia's word that it's Isis's crude, when it is definitely in Russia's best interest to drive a wedge between Turkey, the US, and the Kurds? From that article, they don't have any proof of this at all...

+1

- Plus, the historic & current animosity between Russia & Turkey is no secret.
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12/30/2015 4:24:28 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
Erdogan is undoing all of the secular advancements that Turkey has made and creating a more authoritarian Islamic state.

However, it's quite clear and has been very evident that ISIS has been supplying Turkey with oil. There's a reason why Turkey wasn't so happy about Russia coming in to the conflict in Syria.
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12/30/2015 4:26:32 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/29/2015 7:57:23 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Fvck Turkey

Pretty much.
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12/30/2015 5:43:44 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
This all makes perfect sense now:

-Pataki left the presidential race

-ISIS lost Ramadi

-News of ISIS-Turkey oil trade gets leaked.

That's because ISIS was in need of some intel from their spies, Pataki hence left the presidential race so that he could returnt to ISIS and spill all the intel, while at the same time leaking information about Turkey's oil trade with ISIS so that the US-led coalition would be divded and Turkey would lose credibility. And while Obama bends over to pick up the nickel ISIS APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE AND TAKES TURKEY ALONG WITH ALL THE OIL. It just makes too much sense!
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12/30/2015 6:22:27 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 5:43:44 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
This all makes perfect sense now:

-Pataki left the presidential race

-ISIS lost Ramadi

-News of ISIS-Turkey oil trade gets leaked.

That's because ISIS was in need of some intel from their spies, Pataki hence left the presidential race so that he could returnt to ISIS and spill all the intel, while at the same time leaking information about Turkey's oil trade with ISIS so that the US-led coalition would be divded and Turkey would lose credibility. And while Obama bends over to pick up the nickel ISIS APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE AND TAKES TURKEY ALONG WITH ALL THE OIL. It just makes too much sense!

- & then Guts comes & slashes through them & snatched the oil.
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12/30/2015 6:30:13 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:22:27 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 12/30/2015 5:43:44 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
This all makes perfect sense now:

-Pataki left the presidential race

-ISIS lost Ramadi

-News of ISIS-Turkey oil trade gets leaked.

That's because ISIS was in need of some intel from their spies, Pataki hence left the presidential race so that he could returnt to ISIS and spill all the intel, while at the same time leaking information about Turkey's oil trade with ISIS so that the US-led coalition would be divded and Turkey would lose credibility. And while Obama bends over to pick up the nickel ISIS APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE AND TAKES TURKEY ALONG WITH ALL THE OIL. It just makes too much sense!

- & then Guts comes & slashes through them & snatched the oil.

Pataki loses oil.
Beheilt activates
Pataki sacrifices the US government,
Pataki did nothing wrong.
"Praise Allah."
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12/30/2015 6:32:28 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 5:32:47 AM, YYW wrote:
Evidence of the Turkish-ISIS Oil Trade is irrefutable. It's happening, and to deny it at this point is to live with your head in the sand.

http://www.newyorker.com...

This one pretty viciously mocks the Russian press conference as an obvious hit on Erdogan with little real evidence backing the assertion.

"The Russian defense ministry might have embarrassed Turkey in any number of accurate ways; in spite of the Turkish government's professed efforts to seal its border, fighters and illegal oil continue to be smuggled through with apparent ease; ISIS militants have recently carried out both terrorist attacks and assassinations on Turkish soil; and this week the president's lawyers sued a Turkish physician for posting a photograph, to Facebook, comparing Erdogan's appearance to that of Gollum, the cretinous cave-dweller in the "The Lord of the Rings." (Freedom of expression isn"t exactly a priority for Putin, either.)

Instead, Russia approached the nebulous topic of ISIS oil smuggling with radical specificity. In the satellite photograph of the Turkish border gates, near Kilis, a dotted yellow line encircles the trucks. "Up to 240 tanker trucks and heavy vehicles," the caption reads, though the image is too blurry to ascertain whether the trucks are really towing tankers or -- as a clearer Google Maps image, also from this year, shows -- regular trailers. A Russian lieutenant general clarified, "A number of tanker trucks are disguised as heavy trailers." Nearly all of them are parked next to the refugee camp, between two Turkish border gates, awaiting customs and inspections."

http://ig.ft.com...

This article points out that the oil trade is absolutely labyrinthine, and traces exports only after the oil has passed through many local middlemen. Those that do pass into Turkey are described as being routinely squashed by the Turkish government.

"Some Syrian and Turkish border towns have co-operated by burying small rubber tubes under the border, such as at Besaslan. In recent months, Turkey has stepped up border patrols and are constantly digging out the makeshift pipelines.

A popular crossing point for smugglers carrying jerry cans of fuel on their backs has been from Kharbet al-Jawz in rebel-held Syria to Guvecci in Turkey. This has been largely shut down by Turkish forces, but the remote terrain makes it impossible to stop."

http://www.ibtimes.com...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

(Analysis/Blog) http://www.zerohedge.com...

http://www.globalresearch.ca...

And these for the most part dispense with the really impressive, complex take on the issue put forward in the Financial Times, essentially reporting on the Russian press conference and Iranian response as if it were fact; as if these two, geopolitically aligned forces couldn't POSSIBLY be attempting to launch a propaganda blitz meant to undermine a rival in an ongoing regional conflict.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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12/30/2015 6:35:06 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
You'd think that Americans would have learned to put less stock in grainy satellite photos of nondescript structures. You'd be wrong. Apparently, they don't even have to be from our own government. We'll take them at face value if Russia shows them to us!
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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12/30/2015 6:35:45 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:30:13 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

Pataki loses oil.
Beheilt activates
Pataki sacrifices the US government,

- God Hand will likely reject his sacrifice. Everybody despises the US government.

Pataki did nothing wrong.

- Except getting in the way of Guts using the oil to blow up God Hand.
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12/30/2015 6:37:47 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:35:06 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
You'd think that Americans would have learned to put less stock in grainy satellite photos of nondescript structures. You'd be wrong. Apparently, they don't even have to be from our own government. We'll take them at face value if Russia shows them to us!

Your rebuttals are pretty weak... uncharacteristically so, and we'll talk about it more later on.
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12/30/2015 6:46:51 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:35:45 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:30:13 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

Pataki loses oil.
Beheilt activates
Pataki sacrifices the US government,

- God Hand will likely reject his sacrifice. Everybody despises the US government.

Pataki did nothing wrong.

- Except getting in the way of Guts using the oil to blow up God Hand.

ISIS would probably take a 10 month hiatus. Obama too busy playing Idolm@ster, Al Baghdadi gets stuck on a boat for seven years. Russia takes over Ukraine. Merkel enters Moscow, Putin requests if Merkel were to join the RUssian empire. She says no and slaps Putin on the face (#Putindidnothingwrong).

Therfore, Slan is Gaiseric= confirmed.
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12/30/2015 6:51:26 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:46:51 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:35:45 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:30:13 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

Pataki loses oil.
Beheilt activates
Pataki sacrifices the US government,

- God Hand will likely reject his sacrifice. Everybody despises the US government.

Pataki did nothing wrong.

- Except getting in the way of Guts using the oil to blow up God Hand.

ISIS would probably take a 10 month hiatus. Obama too busy playing Idolm@ster, Al Baghdadi gets stuck on a boat for seven years. Russia takes over Ukraine. Merkel enters Moscow, Putin requests if Merkel were to join the Russian empire. She says no and slaps Putin on the face (#Putindidnothingwrong).

Therfore, Slan is Gaiseric= confirmed.

- You forgot the Vatican getting transposed to Moscow, & Merkel going on a journey trying to find al-Baghdadi.
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12/30/2015 6:55:42 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:51:26 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:46:51 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:35:45 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 12/30/2015 6:30:13 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

Pataki loses oil.
Beheilt activates
Pataki sacrifices the US government,

- God Hand will likely reject his sacrifice. Everybody despises the US government.

Pataki did nothing wrong.

- Except getting in the way of Guts using the oil to blow up God Hand.

ISIS would probably take a 10 month hiatus. Obama too busy playing Idolm@ster, Al Baghdadi gets stuck on a boat for seven years. Russia takes over Ukraine. Merkel enters Moscow, Putin requests if Merkel were to join the Russian empire. She says no and slaps Putin on the face (#Putindidnothingwrong).

Therfore, Slan is Gaiseric= confirmed.

- You forgot the Vatican getting transposed to Moscow, & Merkel going on a journey trying to find al-Baghdadi.

Just when WW3 is about to begin, another hiatus.
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12/30/2015 6:57:33 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 6:55:42 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

Just when WW3 is about to begin, another hiatus.

- While Puck remains forever irrelevant.
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12/30/2015 10:25:46 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Russian propaganda. I don't believe it. The trucks don't even look like tanker trucks, and I can't tell from the photos where the photos were taken, when the photos were taken, what the cargo is, who the buyer is, who the seller is, where the trucks are going, where the trucks came from, etc. All I see is a bunch of trucks.
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12/31/2015 3:30:53 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/30/2015 10:25:46 PM, Death23 wrote:
At 12/29/2015 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
http://oilpro.com...

I have been saying it all along. People (who were wrong) have disagreed. We all knew it was happening. Observe the nature of how Turkey buys oil from ISIS in the link above.

Russian propaganda. I don't believe it. The trucks don't even look like tanker trucks, and I can't tell from the photos where the photos were taken, when the photos were taken, what the cargo is, who the buyer is, who the seller is, where the trucks are going, where the trucks came from, etc. All I see is a bunch of trucks.
You should have said, Syrian-Iraqi-Iranian-Russian claim. It's obvious that Turkey has trade with ISIS. They provide them hospitals and easy ways to reach borders. If Assad is slayed and if Iraq departs into three countries, Turkey and its allies(basically Qatar and Saudi Arabia) will be the winners of the Europe gass markets and Israel-Europe trade connection. It is worth, taking such actions. Turkey has still its troops in Iraq and Iraqi government is so weak to take any actions toward them.