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12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?
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12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
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12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
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12/31/2015 7:24:34 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Bored with Conservativism? Try CHinese legalism :D. Strict loyalty to the state is much more fun than it sounds!
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1/1/2016 7:15:36 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

No. Unless you truly have a well thought out and intelligent reason to abandon your conservative viewpoints, I would advise against you changing your political stances. Otherwise I don't really want you representing anything I stand for. Politics shouldn't be based on how cool you want to be or getting people to like you. That is why I don't have a filter on this site, I come here to express my views, not to make friends. The friends I do make here are usually already as progressive and rational as I am.
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1/1/2016 7:18:19 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

You'll be hated less on this site if you do.
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1/1/2016 7:36:12 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 7:18:19 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

You'll be hated less on this site if you do.

I don't know. People tend to hated pretty equally on both sides. It's usually those who are in the middle who receive less hatred.
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1/1/2016 8:20:26 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Make the switch, some liberals are trying to pull the party retardedly far to the left, we can use more moderate people to balance it out
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1/1/2016 3:07:08 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 8:20:26 AM, imabench wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Make the switch, some liberals are trying to pull the party retardedly far to the left, we can use more moderate people to balance it out

Just let them pull it to the left and you come and being a republican. The republicans are mostly moderates anyway, with a few very noticable exceptions.
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1/1/2016 3:49:45 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
"Because it's become boring" is a terrible reason to abandon a political ideology; then again, you might've abandoned Liberalism in the first place for this same reason.
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1/1/2016 4:27:18 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
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1/1/2016 4:27:54 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 7:24:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Bored with Conservativism? Try CHinese legalism :D. Strict loyalty to the state is much more fun than it sounds!

Don't listen to Uther and switch to Confucianism because you'll never turn back again once you've seen the light :P
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
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1/1/2016 4:29:23 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 7:36:12 AM, briantheliberal wrote:
At 1/1/2016 7:18:19 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

You'll be hated less on this site if you do.

I don't know. People tend to hated pretty equally on both sides. It's usually those who are in the middle who receive less hatred.

But NewLifeChristian (as you likely know) is a fairly radical conservative, so if he turns into a Liberal, he'll probably be a moderate one. :P
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

Topics I'd like to debate (not debating ATM): http://tinyurl.com...
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1/1/2016 9:50:06 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 4:29:23 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 1/1/2016 7:36:12 AM, briantheliberal wrote:
At 1/1/2016 7:18:19 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

You'll be hated less on this site if you do.

I don't know. People tend to hated pretty equally on both sides. It's usually those who are in the middle who receive less hatred.

But NewLifeChristian (as you likely know) is a fairly radical conservative, so if he turns into a Liberal, he'll probably be a moderate one. :P
On a chart of "moderately conservative", "conservative", "very conservative", and "radically conservative" I would likely be put under "very conservative". A radical conservative would be an extremist and most likely participate in a hate group such as the KKK or WBC.
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"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
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- Dr. Seuss
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1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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1/1/2016 10:01:41 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 7:24:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Bored with Conservativism? Try CHinese legalism :D. Strict loyalty to the state is much more fun than it sounds!
XD
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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1/1/2016 10:08:21 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.

Exactly. Although Libertarians are far more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/1/2016 10:09:26 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:08:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.

Exactly. Although Libertarians are far more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.
That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of extremely fiscally conservative conservatives like Ted Cruz.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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1/1/2016 10:10:17 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:09:26 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:08:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.

Exactly. Although Libertarians are far more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.
That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of extremely fiscally conservative conservatives like Ted Cruz.

That's why I used the word "most".
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/1/2016 10:11:56 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:10:17 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:09:26 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:08:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.

Exactly. Although Libertarians are far more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.
That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of extremely fiscally conservative conservatives like Ted Cruz.

That's why I used the word "most".
I wouldn't even go so far as to say that libertarians are more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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1/3/2016 6:44:09 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/1/2016 10:08:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:07:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 1/1/2016 10:06:20 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:34:38 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:08:44 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 12/31/2015 6:07:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Nostalgia and friendship are terrible reasons to change your politics.
Yes they are, but like I said, I'm also becoming bored of conservatism.

It has become such a dull ideology and confusing one, as well. The recent trend in favor of "progression" has caused the conservative platform to crumble.

What of the conservative platform do you describe as progressive? I mean, I think the GOP is crumbling, but I am having a hard time reconciling you statement with where conservatives are at this moment.
The GOP seems to be split between true conservatives (socially conservative & fiscally conservative) and libertarians (socially liberal & fiscally conservative).

Libertarians are not socially liberal in their personal views. Many of them are socially conservative, but they find that the government should not regulate daily lives to the whims of their personal interest.
Personally, but not politically.

Exactly. Although Libertarians are far more fiscally conservative than most conservatives are.

They seen to be fiscally conservative in different ways though.
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1/3/2016 3:42:36 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/3/2016 3:07:25 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 1/2/2016 11:38:55 PM, stargate wrote:
I strongly advise to not switch.

Why?

For a few reasons some more personal then others witch of witch I will not get to into. But the more logical ones are you have formed your beliefs, and you have argumed for them. If you truly believe in what you stand for, your principals then you will not do a complete one 180 and switch. Some of the reason he have giving are lacking in sound logic for example friends and being cool. You should not form your beliefs on that, for example I am not here to make friends. If I do that is great and a bonus, but it should be about expressing yourself and what you think should happen. I some argue with my friends at school, few come to help me and many time I will be out numbered, but does it matter? My point is you should not give in to the crowd just to be cool. Plus if you become liberal you would have to do basically a 180 and change a ton of stuff. I would find that funny if he does do it sense he has made fun of liberals on many different occasions. If he was to he more moderate then that is fine, but ti become part of the left is a whole different story.
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1/3/2016 4:01:40 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/31/2015 5:57:18 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
I miss the good ole' days. I was liberal and everyone liked me. (This wasn't on Debate.org)

Lately, conservatism has become boring. What do you guys think?

Yeah, but you'll have to start out in the Marxist youth group. It's a long way to the top, but I think you can rise.
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1/3/2016 4:06:25 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/3/2016 3:42:36 PM, stargate wrote:
At 1/3/2016 3:07:25 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 1/2/2016 11:38:55 PM, stargate wrote:
I strongly advise to not switch.

Why?

For a few reasons some more personal then others witch of witch I will not get to into. But the more logical ones are you have formed your beliefs, and you have argumed for them. If you truly believe in what you stand for, your principals then you will not do a complete one 180 and switch. Some of the reason he have giving are lacking in sound logic for example friends and being cool. You should not form your beliefs on that, for example I am not here to make friends. If I do that is great and a bonus, but it should be about expressing yourself and what you think should happen. I some argue with my friends at school, few come to help me and many time I will be out numbered, but does it matter? My point is you should not give in to the crowd just to be cool. Plus if you become liberal you would have to do basically a 180 and change a ton of stuff. I would find that funny if he does do it sense he has made fun of liberals on many different occasions. If he was to he more moderate then that is fine, but ti become part of the left is a whole different story.

Your post, right here, is what is wrong with American politics. We are completely polarized, North and South; Left and Right, and it should not be this way. Politics should be centered on policies and views on major talking points. Each candidate should have views and policy representing themselves, not opposing groups of people. This is how it should be, but it is impossible now.
Topics I would like to debate: https://docs.google.com...

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She's a cunning linguist, but I'm a master debater - Austin Powers


Economic Forum Revival Co-Leader

If you are interested in starting a political journal for the site, please contact me.