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The-Voice-of-Truth
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1/1/2016 1:15:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought? Predictions?

http://thehill.com...

What is with me today? I read a news story, come here to make a thread about it, and lo-and-behold you done did it already.

Anyway, I think that this quote applies to this situation:

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom."
-John Locke

That is my favorite quote by him. By using this executive action, Obama would be doing the exact opposite of this.

By passing these restrictions, Obama would make very many gun-loving conservatives grossly unhappy (I am included in this). The NRA will undoubtedly file a lawsuit, as well as many other right-leaning political organizations.... Just my thought on this.
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1/1/2016 1:18:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/1/2016 1:15:17 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought? Predictions?

http://thehill.com...

What is with me today? I read a news story, come here to make a thread about it, and lo-and-behold you done did it already.

Anyway, I think that this quote applies to this situation:

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom."
-John Locke

That is my favorite quote by him. By using this executive action, Obama would be doing the exact opposite of this.

By passing these restrictions, Obama would make very many gun-loving conservatives grossly unhappy (I am included in this). The NRA will undoubtedly file a lawsuit, as well as many other right-leaning political organizations.... Just my thought on this.

It is my firm belief that the only path forward for gun legislation is though conservatives. That is, it must come from gun-supporters, not liberals.
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1/1/2016 1:24:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/1/2016 1:18:22 AM, TBR wrote:
By passing these restrictions, Obama would make very many gun-loving conservatives grossly unhappy (I am included in this). The NRA will undoubtedly file a lawsuit, as well as many other right-leaning political organizations.... Just my thought on this.

It is my firm belief that the only path forward for gun legislation is though conservatives. That is, it must come from gun-supporters, not liberals.

I would say the same.

And I think that liberals need to come to terms with something: guns are a massive part of American culture and will never leave it. The moment someone tries to take 'em, there's gonna be Hell-and-a-half to pay, plus expenses incurred from damages and emotional stress....
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Vaarka swung his sword at the mod. However, since I am now incorporeal, he ends up accidentally striking the entire American landmass (It's a REALLY bastard sword), destroying both continents. Spiders are now at 50% of capacity."
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1/1/2016 1:33:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/1/2016 1:15:17 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought? Predictions?

http://thehill.com...

What is with me today? I read a news story, come here to make a thread about it, and lo-and-behold you done did it already.

Anyway, I think that this quote applies to this situation:

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom."
-John Locke

That is my favorite quote by him. By using this executive action, Obama would be doing the exact opposite of this.

By passing these restrictions, Obama would make very many gun-loving conservatives grossly unhappy (I am included in this). The NRA will undoubtedly file a lawsuit, as well as many other right-leaning political organizations.... Just my thought on this.

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1/1/2016 1:33:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/1/2016 1:24:28 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 1/1/2016 1:18:22 AM, TBR wrote:
By passing these restrictions, Obama would make very many gun-loving conservatives grossly unhappy (I am included in this). The NRA will undoubtedly file a lawsuit, as well as many other right-leaning political organizations.... Just my thought on this.

It is my firm belief that the only path forward for gun legislation is though conservatives. That is, it must come from gun-supporters, not liberals.

I would say the same.

And I think that liberals need to come to terms with something: guns are a massive part of American culture and will never leave it. The moment someone tries to take 'em, there's gonna be Hell-and-a-half to pay, plus expenses incurred from damages and emotional stress....

+1
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/1/2016 2:02:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought?

He came up with a bold and creative way to circumvent the legislature.

Predictions?

He's going to boldly and creatively circumvent the legislature. He is a smart dude.

http://thehill.com...
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1/1/2016 3:43:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Reading the comment sections on The Hill make me reconsider my position on whether we should stop mass shootings from happening.
Why?

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1/2/2016 1:33:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought? Predictions?

http://thehill.com...

he has only succeeded in driving the wedge deeper and pushing people further apart is my prediction.

From what I have been able to glean from the different articles is this will do absolutely.........nothing!
isn't a "straw purchase" still illegal? if it is what do these laws fix? You can't purchase a gun for someone else last I knew.

"Citing gun-industry insiders and other sources, Politico reported one proposal would classify more gun sellers as high-volume dealers. Proponents say that would close a legal loophole, which allows many sales conducted online or at gun shows to skirt existing background check provisions."

A gun seller must do a background check when selling gun unless they are a private individual and hasn't not purchased the gun only to resell. again "straw purchase" otherwise.

please correct me if I'm way off on this because is seems he's just doing this to stir people up and create more strife again. I don't see how this will prevent anything that the straw purchase law doesn't already.

It appears he has yet again fixed a problem that doesn't exist.
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1/2/2016 3:32:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/1/2016 2:02:30 AM, YYW wrote:
At 12/31/2015 9:39:13 PM, TBR wrote:
Thought?

He came up with a bold and creative way to circumvent the legislature.

Predictions?

He's going to boldly and creatively circumvent the legislature. He is a smart dude.

http://thehill.com...

What a clever lawyer.
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1/3/2016 12:34:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
He's going to boldly and creatively circumvent the legislature. He is a smart dude.

http://thehill.com...

What a clever lawyer.

maybe what actually comes out will be different than what the media is predicting? I'm genuinely concerned that this law or part of isn't covered by the straw purchase laws already in place. If it's covered this isn't needed so what's the point, if it covers something the straw purchase law doesn't, what does it cover and how? I haven't seen any examples of what this will accomplish, can anyone explain?