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1/6/2016 4:34:19 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
A family with 5 children in Norway has had their children seized by authorities because the parents taught their children that God punishes sin. The children were seized on grounds of physical abuse, even though there has been no documentation of any such abuse.

Now, before the parents have even been evaluated or any kind of court hearing completed, the government has started an adoption process of the children - because there is such high demand for adopted children due to Norwegians not having enough children.

In another case a family fought the government over 2 years all the way to the supreme court and won. Yet the government is still going to send those children out for adoption because they claim that after such a long time it would be traumatic to the children to be sent back to their parents.

The left preaches liberty, but what is imposed is control and totalitarianism.

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1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD
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1/6/2016 5:09:51 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

http://www.wnd.com...
http://www.onenewsnow.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
doesn't mean all these sources are correct or unbiased but, even the same story from several different biased sources has some truth as they have different levels of bias. Btw not one news agency doesn't have a certain level of bias, it's a human flaw.
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1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.
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1/6/2016 6:09:19 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

don't hold your breath waiting
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1/6/2016 6:13:17 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 5:09:51 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

http://www.wnd.com...
http://www.onenewsnow.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
doesn't mean all these sources are correct or unbiased but, even the same story from several different biased sources has some truth

Those sources don't even cover the same story though. The one credible source in that entire list, businessinsider, doesnt even talk about the 5 kids in question, theyre talking about 2 kids from Lithuania, while another accuses Norway of the highest rate of inbreeding of any country which is surely false.

Child protection cases like these are routinely kept private out of privacy rights for the kids in question, but even ive found in the horrendously biased sources about this topic that the parents were accused of abusing their kids and religiously indoctrinating them.
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1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"

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1/6/2016 6:23:20 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
"Barnevernet agents thereupon came to the school and questioned the girls, who described that they would not admit to doing some things for fear their parents would punish them"

"He wrote that the girls told Barnevernet workers that their father shook the baby "as a rag," a statement Marius vigorously denies."

http://www.tldm.org...

^ And thats from a source of news heavily biased in the parents' favor. The news source dismisses the claim by the kids with some bs that the government manipulated them into saying those things, but its pretty clear here that people are only getting one side of the story here, and religious idiots are jumping all over it because it happens to be the side of the story they like the most
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1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever. Now you are defending the practice of the government finding adoptive parents for the children seized less than 2 months ago who haven't even had a court date?

The problem with the child services in Norway is well known.

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1/6/2016 6:33:39 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:23:20 PM, imabench wrote:
"Barnevernet agents thereupon came to the school and questioned the girls, who described that they would not admit to doing some things for fear their parents would punish them"

"He wrote that the girls told Barnevernet workers that their father shook the baby "as a rag," a statement Marius vigorously denies."

And from the same article:

Following the girls" remarks, the children were seized and the baby, according to Bodnariu, was subjected to a CT scan and X-ray in a vain attempt to find evidence of physical abuse.

No evidence. Hell I could make my young nieces and nephews say twisted things about their parents if I tried hard enough.

http://www.tldm.org...

^ And thats from a source of news heavily biased in the parents' favor. The news source dismisses the claim by the kids with some bs that the government manipulated them into saying those things, but its pretty clear here that people are only getting one side of the story here, and religious idiots are jumping all over it because it happens to be the side of the story they like the most
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1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever. Now you are defending the practice of the government finding adoptive parents for the children seized less than 2 months ago who haven't even had a court date?

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...
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1/6/2016 6:40:44 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever.

"privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side"

I have an actual reason why I cant get a comprehensive source. You meanwhile do not, and have also failed to provide any nonbiased source whatsoever
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"

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1/6/2016 6:42:13 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:33:39 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:23:20 PM, imabench wrote:
"Barnevernet agents thereupon came to the school and questioned the girls, who described that they would not admit to doing some things for fear their parents would punish them"

"He wrote that the girls told Barnevernet workers that their father shook the baby "as a rag," a statement Marius vigorously denies."

And from the same article:

Following the girls" remarks, the children were seized and the baby, according to Bodnariu, was subjected to a CT scan and X-ray in a vain attempt to find evidence of physical abuse.

No evidence. Hell I could make my young nieces and nephews say twisted things about their parents if I tried hard enough.

Except you would have no motive to do so, and there is also no motive for why Norwegian authorities would do the same either assuming they even did in the first place, which they didnt.

http://www.tldm.org...

^ And thats from a source of news heavily biased in the parents' favor. The news source dismisses the claim by the kids with some bs that the government manipulated them into saying those things, but its pretty clear here that people are only getting one side of the story here, and religious idiots are jumping all over it because it happens to be the side of the story they like the most
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"

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1/6/2016 6:42:17 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever. Now you are defending the practice of the government finding adoptive parents for the children seized less than 2 months ago who haven't even had a court date?

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

That was an appeal to have the children returned until the official court date as to their competency as parents and the alleged abuse.
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1/6/2016 6:44:06 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:42:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:33:39 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:23:20 PM, imabench wrote:
"Barnevernet agents thereupon came to the school and questioned the girls, who described that they would not admit to doing some things for fear their parents would punish them"

"He wrote that the girls told Barnevernet workers that their father shook the baby "as a rag," a statement Marius vigorously denies."

And from the same article:

Following the girls" remarks, the children were seized and the baby, according to Bodnariu, was subjected to a CT scan and X-ray in a vain attempt to find evidence of physical abuse.

No evidence. Hell I could make my young nieces and nephews say twisted things about their parents if I tried hard enough.

Except you would have no motive to do so, and there is also no motive for why Norwegian authorities would do the same either assuming they even did in the first place, which they didnt.

Yes, they spanked their kids when deemed necessary. This is not approved of in Norway so the child services wants to take away the children.

http://www.tldm.org...

^ And thats from a source of news heavily biased in the parents' favor. The news source dismisses the claim by the kids with some bs that the government manipulated them into saying those things, but its pretty clear here that people are only getting one side of the story here, and religious idiots are jumping all over it because it happens to be the side of the story they like the most
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1/6/2016 6:46:01 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:40:44 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever.

"privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side"

I have an actual reason why I cant get a comprehensive source. You meanwhile do not, and have also failed to provide any nonbiased source whatsoever

So what you are saying is that the media shouldn't even report on things because government rules require things to be kept secret - or can also be abused to hide wrong deeds? Really?
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1/6/2016 6:55:52 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:42:17 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

That was an appeal to have the children returned until the official court date as to their competency as parents and the alleged abuse.

"A hearing held November 27 dismissed the Bodnarius' appeal to be reunited with their children. The court ruled instead that they were to remain in the care of their foster parents, while Marius and Ruth could visit their three-month-old son twice a week for two hours."

Sounds like the official court date to me

Hell I could make my young nieces and nephews say twisted things about their parents if I tried hard enough.

Except you would have no motive to do so, and there is also no motive for why Norwegian authorities would do the same either assuming they even did in the first place, which they didnt.

Yes, they spanked their kids when deemed necessary. This is not approved of in Norway so the child services wants to take away the children.

Its actually illegal in Norway, so if the parents confessed to doing something already not allowed by law, then the authorities wouldnt need to manipulate the kids into saying things since they would have had all the evidence they needed in the first place.

"privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side"

I have an actual reason why I cant get a comprehensive source. You meanwhile do not, and have also failed to provide any nonbiased source whatsoever

So what you are saying is that the media shouldn't even report on things because government rules require things to be kept secret - or can also be abused to hide wrong deeds? Really?

I know its really, really hard for someone like you to have a conversation without going way off track from the topic but try to pay attention.

Im saying that the reason I cant find a comprehensive point of view from the other side of why the children were taken was because privacy laws prevent those details from being open in the first place, not that the media shouldnt report on something just because the information is a secret.

You meanwhile have still failed to provide a credible source for the story as well, and are already resorting to appeals to emotion to cover your tracks. Try to keep up
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1/6/2016 7:22:18 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 6:55:52 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:42:17 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

That was an appeal to have the children returned until the official court date as to their competency as parents and the alleged abuse.

"A hearing held November 27 dismissed the Bodnarius' appeal to be reunited with their children. The court ruled instead that they were to remain in the care of their foster parents, while Marius and Ruth could visit their three-month-old son twice a week for two hours."

Sounds like the official court date to me

Nope. That was a hearing as to whether the children would stay with the parents or not in the interim. It is like a bail hearing. It doesn't determine your innocence or guilt, only whether you sit in or out of jail until your actual court date.

Yes, they spanked their kids when deemed necessary. This is not approved of in Norway so the child services wants to take away the children.

Its actually illegal in Norway, so if the parents confessed to doing something already not allowed by law, then the authorities wouldnt need to manipulate the kids into saying things since they would have had all the evidence they needed in the first place.

The courts are not going to separate a family over a spanking that results in no bruising. This also calls into question the legitimacy of the Norwegian law.

"privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side"

I have an actual reason why I cant get a comprehensive source. You meanwhile do not, and have also failed to provide any nonbiased source whatsoever

So what you are saying is that the media shouldn't even report on things because government rules require things to be kept secret - or can also be abused to hide wrong deeds? Really?

I know its really, really hard for someone like you to have a conversation without going way off track from the topic but try to pay attention.

Im saying that the reason I cant find a comprehensive point of view from the other side of why the children were taken was because privacy laws prevent those details from being open in the first place, not that the media shouldnt report on something just because the information is a secret.

You meanwhile have still failed to provide a credible source for the story as well, and are already resorting to appeals to emotion to cover your tracks. Try to keep up

So what you are saying is that there is no credibility unless is comes from the MSM? Wrongdoing is never uncovered by other agencies?
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1/6/2016 7:51:50 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 7:22:18 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:55:52 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:42:17 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

That was an appeal to have the children returned until the official court date as to their competency as parents and the alleged abuse.

"A hearing held November 27 dismissed the Bodnarius' appeal to be reunited with their children. The court ruled instead that they were to remain in the care of their foster parents, while Marius and Ruth could visit their three-month-old son twice a week for two hours."

Sounds like the official court date to me

Nope. That was a hearing as to whether the children would stay with the parents or not in the interim. It is like a bail hearing. It doesn't determine your innocence or guilt, only whether you sit in or out of jail until your actual court date.

Even bail hearings set a date for when to reconvene for the next trial. Unless you can provide the next court date from a source then I can only assume that youre misreading the source to fit your own bias.... Again

Yes, they spanked their kids when deemed necessary. This is not approved of in Norway so the child services wants to take away the children.

Its actually illegal in Norway, so if the parents confessed to doing something already not allowed by law, then the authorities wouldnt need to manipulate the kids into saying things since they would have had all the evidence they needed in the first place.

The courts are not going to separate a family over a spanking that results in no bruising.

There still is no motive for why the authorities would try to manipulate the children into saying things about their parents that weren't true.

Im saying that the reason I cant find a comprehensive point of view from the other side of why the children were taken was because privacy laws prevent those details from being open in the first place, not that the media shouldnt report on something just because the information is a secret.

You meanwhile have still failed to provide a credible source for the story as well, and are already resorting to appeals to emotion to cover your tracks. Try to keep up

So what you are saying is that there is no credibility unless is comes from the MSM? Wrongdoing is never uncovered by other agencies?

Do you understand the words that you are reading right now or are you really just that crazy in letting your bias hijack your thoughts?

If the MSM gives its side that doesnt automatically mean its credible, my point is that there isnt any credibility on your side of the story since 1) All of the sources reporting it are sites full of meaningless religious sh*t, and 2) The nature of child custody issues are very private affairs where its hard for any outside media source to be able to get the full story.
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1/6/2016 10:32:41 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/6/2016 4:34:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
A family with 5 children in Norway has had their children seized by authorities because the parents taught their children that God punishes sin. The children were seized on grounds of physical abuse, even though there has been no documentation of any such abuse.

Now, before the parents have even been evaluated or any kind of court hearing completed, the government has started an adoption process of the children - because there is such high demand for adopted children due to Norwegians not having enough children.

In another case a family fought the government over 2 years all the way to the supreme court and won. Yet the government is still going to send those children out for adoption because they claim that after such a long time it would be traumatic to the children to be sent back to their parents.

The left preaches liberty, but what is imposed is control and totalitarianism.

http://www.christianpost.com...

This sort of thing makes you want to scream. Big brother is nothing but evil.
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6/8/2016 4:38:40 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 1/6/2016 7:51:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 7:22:18 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:55:52 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:42:17 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

That was an appeal to have the children returned until the official court date as to their competency as parents and the alleged abuse.

"A hearing held November 27 dismissed the Bodnarius' appeal to be reunited with their children. The court ruled instead that they were to remain in the care of their foster parents, while Marius and Ruth could visit their three-month-old son twice a week for two hours."

Sounds like the official court date to me

Nope. That was a hearing as to whether the children would stay with the parents or not in the interim. It is like a bail hearing. It doesn't determine your innocence or guilt, only whether you sit in or out of jail until your actual court date.

Even bail hearings set a date for when to reconvene for the next trial. Unless you can provide the next court date from a source then I can only assume that youre misreading the source to fit your own bias.... Again

Yes, they spanked their kids when deemed necessary. This is not approved of in Norway so the child services wants to take away the children.

Its actually illegal in Norway, so if the parents confessed to doing something already not allowed by law, then the authorities wouldnt need to manipulate the kids into saying things since they would have had all the evidence they needed in the first place.

The courts are not going to separate a family over a spanking that results in no bruising.

There still is no motive for why the authorities would try to manipulate the children into saying things about their parents that weren't true.

Im saying that the reason I cant find a comprehensive point of view from the other side of why the children were taken was because privacy laws prevent those details from being open in the first place, not that the media shouldnt report on something just because the information is a secret.

You meanwhile have still failed to provide a credible source for the story as well, and are already resorting to appeals to emotion to cover your tracks. Try to keep up

So what you are saying is that there is no credibility unless is comes from the MSM? Wrongdoing is never uncovered by other agencies?

Do you understand the words that you are reading right now or are you really just that crazy in letting your bias hijack your thoughts?

If the MSM gives its side that doesnt automatically mean its credible, my point is that there isnt any credibility on your side of the story since 1) All of the sources reporting it are sites full of meaningless religious sh*t, and 2) The nature of child custody issues are very private affairs where its hard for any outside media source to be able to get the full story.

In the end it was all a sham by an anti-Christian socialist government institution... as predicted. And it would still be ongoing if not for the efforts of the independent media that you so casually dismissed.

http://www.washingtontimes.com...

http://thefederalist.com...

http://www.ncregister.com...

http://www.christianpost.com...

http://www.romania-insider.com...
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6/8/2016 11:36:06 PM
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At 1/6/2016 4:34:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
A family with 5 children in Norway has had their children seized by authorities because the parents taught their children that God punishes sin. The children were seized on grounds of physical abuse, even though there has been no documentation of any such abuse.

Now, before the parents have even been evaluated or any kind of court hearing completed, the government has started an adoption process of the children - because there is such high demand for adopted children due to Norwegians not having enough children.

In another case a family fought the government over 2 years all the way to the supreme court and won. Yet the government is still going to send those children out for adoption because they claim that after such a long time it would be traumatic to the children to be sent back to their parents.

The left preaches liberty, but what is imposed is control and totalitarianism.

http://www.christianpost.com...

It makes you want to scream. A 12 year old Norwegian girl in was gang raped by 4 muslim migrants. One was set free and the other 3 were given community service. What a wonderful country, if you are an atheist or a Muslim.
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6/8/2016 11:46:07 PM
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At 1/6/2016 4:34:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
A family with 5 children in Norway has had their children seized by authorities because the parents taught their children that God punishes sin. The children were seized on grounds of physical abuse, even though there has been no documentation of any such abuse.

Now, before the parents have even been evaluated or any kind of court hearing completed, the government has started an adoption process of the children - because there is such high demand for adopted children due to Norwegians not having enough children.

In another case a family fought the government over 2 years all the way to the supreme court and won. Yet the government is still going to send those children out for adoption because they claim that after such a long time it would be traumatic to the children to be sent back to their parents.

The left preaches liberty, but what is imposed is control and totalitarianism.

http://www.christianpost.com...

Yep. And the fact that atheism is linked to far higher rates of serious depression is not abuse.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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6/8/2016 11:48:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Was that it
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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6/8/2016 11:51:30 PM
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At 1/6/2016 6:39:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:31:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 6:17:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/6/2016 5:15:26 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Fair enough. Just show me a source that proves it wrong.

Show me a reliable one that proves youre even right in the first place.... Every source about the story is just religious garbage who are exploiting the privacy rules of the case to spin whatever tale they want since privacy rules pretty much prohibits the government from telling their side. Instead you only have the parents side of the story, and they sure wouldnt admit any wrongdoing on their part.

So, in other words, you have no source whatsoever. Now you are defending the practice of the government finding adoptive parents for the children seized less than 2 months ago who haven't even had a court date?

They did have a court date, the parents lost the appeal

"A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. "

http://www.churchmilitant.com...

The same liberal Norway that prods Christianity while nuzzling the teet of Islam by means of "multiculturism", then got their liberal feminists raped by "migrants"?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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6/8/2016 11:53:44 PM
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"After anal rape, liberal rape victim feels bad that rapist was deported"

http://www.breitbart.com...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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6/9/2016 12:41:59 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 1/6/2016 4:34:19 PM, Geogeer wrote:
A family with 5 children in Norway has had their children seized by authorities because the parents taught their children that God punishes sin. The children were seized on grounds of physical abuse, even though there has been no documentation of any such abuse.

Now, before the parents have even been evaluated or any kind of court hearing completed, the government has started an adoption process of the children - because there is such high demand for adopted children due to Norwegians not having enough children.

In another case a family fought the government over 2 years all the way to the supreme court and won. Yet the government is still going to send those children out for adoption because they claim that after such a long time it would be traumatic to the children to be sent back to their parents.

The left preaches liberty, but what is imposed is control and totalitarianism.

http://www.christianpost.com...

Love the anecdotal, weakly linked evidence.
Meh!
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6/9/2016 1:25:59 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/8/2016 4:38:40 PM, Geogeer wrote:
In the end it was all a sham by an anti-Christian socialist government institution... as predicted. And it would still be ongoing if not for the efforts of the independent media that you so casually dismissed.

You don't expect a Democrat/Liberal to debate honestly, do you?

It's standard practice in Communist countries for the government to take children away from their parents and put them in boarding school, no need to bother declaring the parents unfit. This is where Liberals want to take us.

Even now, Liberals will defend to their last breath tyranny in public education, teaching children things the parents abhor. And, they'll deny tyranny is tyranny.
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6/9/2016 1:30:56 AM
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At 1/6/2016 4:46:03 PM, imabench wrote:
Because 'christianpost' is such an unbiased source of news that clearly isn't full of sh** or anything XD

Do you have evidence that the Christian Post is an unreliable source? Do you have evidence that the story they published is false? Maybe you could express condemnation of a government for taking away children because the parents are Christian, if it happened?

But, no....