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1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...

Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...

This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...

A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...

Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...

About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...

Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...

Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...

Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.
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1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...
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1/18/2016 3:27:36 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.
Lol forgot to read this
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1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 3:33:37 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.

I wasn't saying it did
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1/18/2016 3:34:23 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:33:37 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.

I wasn't saying it did

I know, I just don't think that this was worth mentioning, as to the profanity in my statement.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 3:35:30 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:34:23 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:37 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.

I wasn't saying it did

I know, I just don't think that this was worth mentioning, as to the profanity in my statement.

Fair enough, but seriously, you should link anybody arguing for feminism to this.
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1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,
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1/18/2016 3:36:35 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:35:30 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:34:23 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:37 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.

I wasn't saying it did

I know, I just don't think that this was worth mentioning, as to the profanity in my statement.

Fair enough, but seriously, you should link anybody arguing for feminism to this.

I feel like I should show Rosalie :P
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 3:37:45 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:36:35 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:35:30 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:34:23 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:37 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:33:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:26:47 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:24:13 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:18:10 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

Well said, now go and win some debates with this!

Seriously though, I think you showed greatly how irrelavant feminism is.

Thank you. I've already made a youtube video that illustrates the fallacious nature of one of the most common feminist principles, being the "wage gap". It's a short 16 minute video, and honestly, it's not very good. I could've done better.

Winning debates with these arguments is difficult, because the feminists will just resort to name calling and feelings. I like the satisfaction of the mentally retarded look on the feminists' face when I utterly verbally rape her.

Ok well that was profane but anyway now there is only one myth to cling to, the wage gap myth refuted here
http://www.cbsnews.com...

Rape is not a profane word, and neither is retarded. Either way, profanity doesn't do much do discredit an argument, unless it is complete nonsense.

I wasn't saying it did

I know, I just don't think that this was worth mentioning, as to the profanity in my statement.

Fair enough, but seriously, you should link anybody arguing for feminism to this.

I feel like I should show Rosalie :P

Pry should and this too http://www.debate.org...
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1/18/2016 3:37:56 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,

Of course, and this is proven by statistics. Men happen to be the ones who face the brunt of unwanted physical contact, whether it is theft, assault, murder, etc. Just refer back to what I wrote previously and it's all there, plus it has citations as well.
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Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.

"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"
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Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:52:25 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.


"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"

That's called egalitarianism, which is vastly different from feminism. Feminism wants more privileges for women, and just includes more and more different ethnic groups, races, religions, etc. so that more and more people have reasons for joining their utterly repulsive cause.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 4:01:02 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:55:21 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:52:25 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.


"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"

That's called egalitarianism, which is vastly different from feminism. Feminism wants more privileges for women, and just includes more and more different ethnic groups, races, religions, etc. so that more and more people have reasons for joining their utterly repulsive cause.

I think he's kidding.
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1/18/2016 4:01:36 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 4:01:02 AM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:55:21 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:52:25 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.


"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"

That's called egalitarianism, which is vastly different from feminism. Feminism wants more privileges for women, and just includes more and more different ethnic groups, races, religions, etc. so that more and more people have reasons for joining their utterly repulsive cause.

I think he's kidding.

I know he was kidding, I just wanted to add on to it.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 3:55:21 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:52:25 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.


"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"

That's called egalitarianism, which is vastly different from feminism. Feminism wants more privileges for women, and just includes more and more different ethnic groups, races, religions, etc. so that more and more people have reasons for joining their utterly repulsive cause.

I was kidding lol
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1/18/2016 4:07:32 AM
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At 1/18/2016 4:05:43 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:55:21 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:52:25 AM, Objectivity wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.

Citations:

Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org...


Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said "Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
http://www.bls.gov...


This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca...


A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu...

Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
http://papers.ssrn.com...

Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
http://www.prisonpolicy.org...


Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com...


About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
http://www.census.gov...


Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
http://www.endparentalalienation.com...


Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
http://www.nhchc.org...


Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Center for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.


"But feminism is about equity between the genders!!!!11"

That's called egalitarianism, which is vastly different from feminism. Feminism wants more privileges for women, and just includes more and more different ethnic groups, races, religions, etc. so that more and more people have reasons for joining their utterly repulsive cause.

I was kidding lol

I know you were kidding, but like I said to mc9, I felt that it was worth mentioning, as some people actually say this as an argument.
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1/18/2016 7:27:21 PM
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At 1/18/2016 3:37:56 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,

Of course, and this is proven by statistics. Men happen to be the ones who face the brunt of unwanted physical contact, whether it is theft, assault, murder, etc. Just refer back to what I wrote previously and it's all there, plus it has citations as well.
Also men are more likely to be raped than women, when you include prison rape.
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1/18/2016 7:58:54 PM
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At 1/18/2016 7:27:21 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:37:56 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,

Of course, and this is proven by statistics. Men happen to be the ones who face the brunt of unwanted physical contact, whether it is theft, assault, murder, etc. Just refer back to what I wrote previously and it's all there, plus it has citations as well.
Also men are more likely to be raped than women, when you include prison rape.

Exactly, and people don't even discuss prison rape. Instead, they joke about it.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/18/2016 8:02:39 PM
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At 1/18/2016 7:58:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 7:27:21 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:37:56 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,

Of course, and this is proven by statistics. Men happen to be the ones who face the brunt of unwanted physical contact, whether it is theft, assault, murder, etc. Just refer back to what I wrote previously and it's all there, plus it has citations as well.
Also men are more likely to be raped than women, when you include prison rape.

Exactly, and people don't even discuss prison rape. Instead, they joke about it.

Feminists don't discuss the rape of females when it doesn't fit their agenda.
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1/18/2016 8:10:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/18/2016 8:02:39 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 7:58:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 7:27:21 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:37:56 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 3:36:23 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:

AGREE. I would like to say that men on average are more likely to be incarcerates and get longer sentences than us because on average men commit more and worse crime,

Of course, and this is proven by statistics. Men happen to be the ones who face the brunt of unwanted physical contact, whether it is theft, assault, murder, etc. Just refer back to what I wrote previously and it's all there, plus it has citations as well.
Also men are more likely to be raped than women, when you include prison rape.

Exactly, and people don't even discuss prison rape. Instead, they joke about it.

Feminists don't discuss the rape of females when it doesn't fit their agenda.

Because statistics do not fit their agenda, as their agenda is baseless misandry.
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1/19/2016 10:43:52 PM
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At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.

Feminism in the first world in unnecessary, that much is obvious by now. There's a point where instead of being a fight for equality, it becomes a fight to have opportunities and achievements spoon fed to you for no reason at all.
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1/19/2016 10:45:29 PM
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At 1/19/2016 10:43:52 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 1/18/2016 2:53:19 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
And thus, feminism is both irrelevant, hypocritical, and filled with hate.

Feminism in the first world in unnecessary, that much is obvious by now. There's a point where instead of being a fight for equality, it becomes a fight to have opportunities and achievements spoon fed to you for no reason at all.

If you hadn't put the word feminism in the front I would have thought you were talking about modern day Democrats.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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1/19/2016 10:48:27 PM
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At 1/19/2016 10:45:29 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
If you hadn't put the word feminism in the front I would have thought you were talking about modern day Democrats.

Yeah, the masses of uninformed liberals are ruining the left wing.
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1/19/2016 10:52:38 PM
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At 1/19/2016 10:48:27 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 1/19/2016 10:45:29 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
If you hadn't put the word feminism in the front I would have thought you were talking about modern day Democrats.

Yeah, the masses of uninformed liberals are ruining the left wing.

The left-wing ruins itself by opening itself up to these stupid policies of self-degradation and a lack of responsibility and ambition. The party that vows for more dependency and government is often the party that attracts the most uneducated and absolutely uninformed voters, mainly from the millennial section of the population.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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1/19/2016 10:58:04 PM
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At 1/19/2016 10:52:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
The left-wing ruins itself by opening itself up to these stupid policies of self-degradation and a lack of responsibility and ambition. The party that vows for more dependency and government is often the party that attracts the most uneducated and absolutely uninformed voters, mainly from the millennial section of the population.

I wouldn't call it dependency so much as collectivism, that everyone contributes and everyone receives. Of course that's not what most modern left wing parties advocate for, but if we're only talking about "the left."
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1/19/2016 11:13:18 PM
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At 1/19/2016 10:58:04 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 1/19/2016 10:52:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
The left-wing ruins itself by opening itself up to these stupid policies of self-degradation and a lack of responsibility and ambition. The party that vows for more dependency and government is often the party that attracts the most uneducated and absolutely uninformed voters, mainly from the millennial section of the population.

I wouldn't call it dependency so much as collectivism, that everyone contributes and everyone receives. Of course that's not what most modern left wing parties advocate for, but if we're only talking about "the left."

The party which amounts for the largest left wing support happens to support redistributive measures, such as higher taxation, more social programs and welfare policies, and overall greater government dependency.

People who are dependent on something tend to support it. You wouldn't bite the hand that feeds you; unless of course, you are a Muslim. Those s.o.b's bite everybody, including their 6 year old wives.
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1/19/2016 11:22:37 PM
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At 1/19/2016 11:13:18 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/19/2016 10:58:04 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 1/19/2016 10:52:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
The left-wing ruins itself by opening itself up to these stupid policies of self-degradation and a lack of responsibility and ambition. The party that vows for more dependency and government is often the party that attracts the most uneducated and absolutely uninformed voters, mainly from the millennial section of the population.

I wouldn't call it dependency so much as collectivism, that everyone contributes and everyone receives. Of course that's not what most modern left wing parties advocate for, but if we're only talking about "the left."

The party which amounts for the largest left wing support happens to support redistributive measures, such as higher taxation, more social programs and welfare policies, and overall greater government dependency.


That is such an oversimplification, I know you understand the issues better than that.